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Leave off the casterbashing please. ~Nyovne | ||
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anonymitylol
Canada4477 Posts
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RudePlague
Great Britain113 Posts
elfi had a great run in Guanzhou, beating a lot of great players. In qualifying for IEM New York he beat Stephano and Tarson. At Assembly he beat Nada. All the people calling elfi trash/saying he's bad for cheesing, stop it. | ||
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
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Sailincieri
Poland83 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:59 m0ck wrote: In PvP, their recent history would suggest so. At ESWC elfi beat mana in the group-stage and mana beat MC in the play-offs. Mana beat MC and Huk (x2)  I think Elfi and Huk PvP is on the sama level, but Elfi this time play better. | ||
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HappyChris
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On November 04 2011 21:00 Xcobidoo wrote: And how about that "HuK is 100x better than Elfi bandwagon, sitting comfortably? What I am saying is that in EVERY game where a better player loses to a worse one, there's always some excuse. It's cheese, bad preparation etc, NEVER that the other player actually played well and that's what I have a problem with. Imagine a world where the favorite would always win... Thats how proffesional sport works!!! Barcelona lose to any team in football its because "Barcelona played bad" When a top player loses to a weaker one in a one off game its due to the top player playing alot worst than he does. Its how it all works. If Elfi and HuK ever play again and Elfi wins again, then you have an argument for saying Elfi is a PvP baller and is better than HuK at PvP, but people saying he is better than HuK in PvP or in General is a completly false statement. They always say winning the League in football is better than winning a knock out competition, as anyone can win a one off game due to multiple UNCONTROLLABLE factors (ie jet lag for todays case) but for those who can win in the long run from multiple games in a league based format (NASL format would be closet we have to this) have a greater reward of saying "Were the best over x amount of games vs everyone and anyone" | ||
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SedativeDev
Slovenia316 Posts
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TideRoll
United States106 Posts
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Liquid`HayprO
Iraq1230 Posts
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Nash
151 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On November 04 2011 21:07 Liquid`HayprO wrote: ah this is gonna be so nice. i love dimaga and select! But who do you think is going to win Mr Haypro?? | ||
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hasuterrans
United States614 Posts
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how2TL
1197 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:56 TotalBiscuit wrote: Because it's best of 5. You don't play double-elim Best of 5 invitationals, that's just silly. BO5s can drag on for ages, plus setup time for players and scheduled breaks, you can't play double-elimination in that format. You can run loser's bracket concurrently with the winner's bracket with stations off-stage with a different caster or even off-air if you must. If anything, to do so would at least preserve a justifiable second place finish (I repeat, without a pool system to dictate seeding). I respect that there are logistical considerations but it's not an impossibility as you suggest. Single elimination with no pool play leads to questionable results, especially 2nd and 3rd places. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10877 Posts
On November 04 2011 21:07 Nash wrote: This should be a stomp. Select is overrated but not close to as overrated as DIMAGA. Oh common, now you are just fishing for flames ^^ | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:57 Pandemona wrote: Bring a work quote into a proffesional sport anaylsis is pretty lame. If your tired in any sport you cannot perform to your best level fact (i guess even at work) but if your tired for no reason of your own (being jet lagged is hard to help when you have a tough schedule) is going to effect your game play on multiple levels, micro macro and mechanics will all be effected. You saw after game 2 he was begining to falter pretty badly. BUT like everyone seems to be saying Elfi > HuK even though one is clearly better at the game than the other :S Makes no sense, no 1 is arguing he won, but he won vs a player who was tired and on paper 100x better than him, why are people jumping on the friggin band waggen saying Elfi is a fkn PvP god, i bet theres fkn Masters players on EU with better win rate than Elfi -_- and Elfi is 60% win rate PvP on the EU ladder how is that even a good argument lol? Tired or NOT, elfi is nearly 75% PvP on TLPD, and his last loss in boX against toss was in JUNE against white-ra. He IS good. Then again, HuK is good too, no one is denying that. It's a fact Elfi is veeeery good in PvP, him winning is neither an UPSET nor a GIVEN. Stop arguing, both are good players, if you underperform because you're too tired, maybe cut a bit into your tournament schedule. It's his fault, no one else's. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On November 04 2011 21:05 Pandemona wrote: Thats how proffesional sport works!!! Barcelona lose to any team in football its because "Barcelona played bad" When a top player loses to a weaker one in a one off game its due to the top player playing alot worst than he does. Its how it all works. If Elfi and HuK ever play again and Elfi wins again, then you have an argument for saying Elfi is a PvP baller and is better than HuK at PvP, but people saying he is better than HuK in PvP or in General is a completly false statement. They always say winning the League in football is better than winning a knock out competition, as anyone can win a one off game due to multiple UNCONTROLLABLE factors (ie jet lag for todays case) but for those who can win in the long run from multiple games in a league based format (NASL format would be closet we have to this) have a greater reward of saying "Were the best over x amount of games vs everyone and anyone" Uhm no, there can be games where a team out plays Barcelona without them playing bad. That doesn't mean the other team is better overall but on that day they were. | ||
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michielbrands
Netherlands1146 Posts
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mazqo
Finland368 Posts
On November 04 2011 21:07 hasuterrans wrote: I just tuned in to discover Elfi 4 gating Top 3 Control to a Bo5 victory apparently. Bring on the lulz. I bet Huk fans are raging. Yes, apparently its not allowed to take freewins from greedy/bad builds. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
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