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Leave off the casterbashing please. ~Nyovne
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
November 05 2011 11:39 GMT
#2681
On November 05 2011 20:38 NKsc2 wrote:
Lol @ the whining on xnc. Metalopolis is more imbalanced favouring zerg than xelnaga is favouring terran (statistically).


No it's not.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/441_Metalopolis_1.1
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/429_Xel'Naga_Caverns_1.1
Ultramus
Profile Joined June 2010
United States319 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 11:43:11
November 05 2011 11:39 GMT
#2682
On November 05 2011 20:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:28 Hypersphere wrote:
Casters were completely off in their commentary this game, Idra won every single engagement, not the other way around.


No he didn't. Usual unconstructive bitching from forum threads.


And your comment adds what? I understand you are a community member but if you cannot take criticism in the slightest you aren't doing yourself any favors. Watching the back half of that game was painful from a casting perspective, I'm not sure if you are trying to build some kind of tension when there isn't any but it's relatively annoying to hear when the game is clearly over. Don't be afraid to call it how it is, Idra was trading well and had the superior concave in almost every engagement, I don't see how as a caster you can be so oblivious. Your casting isn't my favorite and your antics aren't either but I respect you as a community member and coming into the LR just to flame someone openly stating what a good majority of people were thinking is a bit daft.
Baking is like science for hungry people
MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
November 05 2011 11:39 GMT
#2683
On November 05 2011 20:35 Taf the Ghost wrote:
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On November 05 2011 20:35 MrKn4rz wrote:
Can someone fill me in on Elfis PvP?


He beat Huk in the Ro8, so pretty decent?

hes good at 4 gating
Hypersphere
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden46 Posts
November 05 2011 11:39 GMT
#2684
On November 05 2011 20:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:28 Hypersphere wrote:
Casters were completely off in their commentary this game, Idra won every single engagement, not the other way around.


No he didn't. Usual unconstructive bitching from forum threads.

I posted that because people were surprised to see white-ra crumbling in the end.
I didn't realize you would look for criticism while on stage so I'm sorry that I disagree with you.
iDoMiNaTe2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
288 Posts
November 05 2011 11:40 GMT
#2685
Stop complaining about every little thing a caster gets wrong lol. Enjoy the tournament not bitch about something you have no control over. White Ra had such a lead that last game
Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
November 05 2011 11:40 GMT
#2686
On November 05 2011 20:35 MrKn4rz wrote:
Can someone fill me in on Elfis PvP?


He is the foreign version of Inka to put it simply.
♠ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ♠ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♠ (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ ♠
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
November 05 2011 11:40 GMT
#2687
How fun or one-sided were the game of Idra and WhiteRa?
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 11:42:50
November 05 2011 11:40 GMT
#2688
On November 05 2011 20:38 FairForever wrote:

From TB: "No he didn't. Usual unconstructive bitching from forum threads."

If he wants respect he should act respectfully, he's gotten some constructive criticism in this thread (including from me) so if he wants to be a dick about it then he's going to hear shit in return.


Why the fuck should I respect a random guy on the forums who thinks he's more qualified with the wonders of hindsight and absolutely no justification of his opinion? Let's be smart by posting our analysis after it happens, with the benefit of hindsight and not explaining a damn thing about why we believe it. God that's hard, I'm surprised you're not up here doing my job with those skills.

And your comment adds what? I understand you are a community member but if you cannot take criticism in the slightest you aren't doing yourselves any favors. Watching the back half of that game was painful from a casting perspective, I'm not sure if you are trying to build some kind of tension when there isn't any but it's relatively annoying to hear when the game is clearly over. Don't be afraid to call it how it is, Idra was trading well and had the superior concave in almost every engagement, I don't see how as a caster you can be so oblivious. Your casting isn't my favorite and your antics aren't either but I respect you as a community member and coming into the LR just to flame someone openly stating what a good majority of people were thinking is a bit daft.


I can take criticism, I am pointing out that the criticism is shit. You think I or anyone else should sit here and thank people for posting dumb things on this forum? If you can't be constructive, then you are of no use. Amusing isn't it, how community members often think to post that I can't take criticism and yet throw up their hands in grave offense whenever I don't treat their comments as pure internet gold. They are the random, unjustified and badly written remarks of a spectator, after the game has finished.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 11:42:21
November 05 2011 11:40 GMT
#2689
On November 05 2011 20:35 FLuE wrote:
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On November 05 2011 20:31 Grettin wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:29 Clafou wrote:
Silly question here but... Do the players hear the casters? O_o


Apparently no. "soundproof" headsets.


Do you guys really think a player like idra, who is confident he can win this whole tournament no "advantage" needed, wouldn't speak up if he felt it was unfair and you could hear the casters?

Like... seriously? And White-Ra "MR. MANNER" "MR. GG!" now all the sudden can hear the casters but doesn't tell anyone to get an edge? Really? Like you guys suggesting this are basically calling the players cheaters... think about it.


Why are you barking at us? The guy asked a question, i answered. We didn't say anything else nor we did question about the set-up they have.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
November 05 2011 11:41 GMT
#2690
On November 05 2011 20:37 Linwelin wrote:
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On November 05 2011 20:36 Zinnwaldite wrote:
I hope the bronze final lasts five hours,, i've got stuff i need to do =/


It's a PvP


They should play a TvT PvP,, turtle and split the map and have carrier/phoenixray battles untill the whole map is mined out xD
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
November 05 2011 11:41 GMT
#2691
On November 05 2011 20:40 Azurues wrote:
How fun or one-sided were the game of Idra and WhiteRa?


Game 1 was ridiculously one-sided, White-Ra decides to go Forge/Nexus/Cannon vs 12pool and lets in 3 lings which cause havoc in the base.

Game 2 is ridiculously one-sided, White-Ra plays super safe because Idra 12 pools again, so he goes Forge-Gateway-Cannon and Nexus is super late.

Game 3 is very close, and a good one to watch.
karnius
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom52 Posts
November 05 2011 11:41 GMT
#2692
On November 05 2011 20:39 Cereb wrote:
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On November 05 2011 20:33 ThirdEye wrote:
Only me muting when the host is talking??




What?? How can you do that! I find it ridiculously funny to listen to the wonderful combination of a finish accent and the fact that he on several occasions has to stop his sentence cause he can't find the English words for what he wants to say, while at the same time trying to be as energetic has he can ;D


Have to admit, the Host kinda looks like 2GD
Like a wet Noodle
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
November 05 2011 11:41 GMT
#2693
in the past idra has rofl stomp select.....but i don't think it will be that easy this time
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
November 05 2011 11:42 GMT
#2694
On November 05 2011 20:39 Hypersphere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:28 Hypersphere wrote:
Casters were completely off in their commentary this game, Idra won every single engagement, not the other way around.


No he didn't. Usual unconstructive bitching from forum threads.

I posted that because people were surprised to see white-ra crumbling in the end.
I didn't realize you would look for criticism while on stage so I'm sorry that I disagree with you.


When TB is on stream at pretty much any event you will find him lurking the L-R threads
SolidZeal
Profile Joined October 2010
United States393 Posts
November 05 2011 11:42 GMT
#2695
On November 05 2011 20:35 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:29 Cereb wrote:
I can't believe Idra is making this horrible strategy work!? This dude is on fire!!!





As for Idra, he had some really good engagements and he switch shifting his units around. He really didn't have a lot of hydras out for a while, and was almost Roach + Corruptor, which forced 2 rounds of Immortals, then he refilled on almost pure Hydra. While technically Roach-Hydra-Corrupter, it was a really smooth version of it.


This. Thanks for putting it so eloquently. And White Ra definitely won the first engagement when he got his third up. He didn't push fast enough after showing his colossus and that allowed idra to get up his corruptor count. Idra was playing really sharp, White Ra maybe not so much but he definitely had an edge at the beginning of the game. It was cool to see Idra turn it around so quick.
In the clearing stands a boxer and a figher by his trade
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
November 05 2011 11:42 GMT
#2696
On November 05 2011 20:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:38 FairForever wrote:

From TB: "No he didn't. Usual unconstructive bitching from forum threads."

If he wants respect he should act respectfully, he's gotten some constructive criticism in this thread (including from me) so if he wants to be a dick about it then he's going to hear shit in return.


Why the fuck should I respect a random guy on the forums who thinks he's more qualified with the wonders of hindsight and absolutely no justification of his opinion? Let's be smart by posting our analysis after it happens, with the benefit of hindsight and not explaining a damn thing about why we believe it. God that's hard, I'm surprised you're not up here doing my job with those skills.


So you can only criticize people if you could do a better job? I guess people aren't allowed to criticize Michael Jordan, etc. then?

The simple fact is: you made a mistake. Someone called you out on it. It's criticism. You don't come back and go "Unusual unconstructive bitching from forum threads."
Moskau
Profile Joined July 2010
114 Posts
November 05 2011 11:43 GMT
#2697
Why the fuck should I respect a random guy on the forums who thinks he's more qualified with the wonders of hindsight and absolutely no justification of his opinion? Let's be smart by posting our analysis after it happens, with the benefit of hindsight and not explaining a damn thing about why we believe it. God that's hard, I'm surprised you're not up here doing my job with those skills.


Oh lookie TB being an asshole to the people viewing his casts, I wonder why he has so many haters!
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 11:44:06
November 05 2011 11:43 GMT
#2698
On November 05 2011 20:42 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:38 FairForever wrote:

From TB: "No he didn't. Usual unconstructive bitching from forum threads."

If he wants respect he should act respectfully, he's gotten some constructive criticism in this thread (including from me) so if he wants to be a dick about it then he's going to hear shit in return.


Why the fuck should I respect a random guy on the forums who thinks he's more qualified with the wonders of hindsight and absolutely no justification of his opinion? Let's be smart by posting our analysis after it happens, with the benefit of hindsight and not explaining a damn thing about why we believe it. God that's hard, I'm surprised you're not up here doing my job with those skills.


So you can only criticize people if you could do a better job? I guess people aren't allowed to criticize Michael Jordan, etc. then?

The simple fact is: you made a mistake. Someone called you out on it. It's criticism. You don't come back and go "Unusual unconstructive bitching from forum threads."


Except you DIDN'T do that. You THINK you did, but in reality you provided no facts whatsoever and no useful feedback.

Oh lookie TB being an asshole to the people viewing his casts, I wonder why he has so many haters!


The world has a lot of stupid people, what's your point?
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
November 05 2011 11:44 GMT
#2699
On November 05 2011 20:39 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:38 NKsc2 wrote:
Lol @ the whining on xnc. Metalopolis is more imbalanced favouring zerg than xelnaga is favouring terran (statistically).


No it's not.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/441_Metalopolis_1.1
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/429_Xel'Naga_Caverns_1.1

Metalopolis is favoured TvZ in Korea. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/441_Metalopolis_1.1

The whole 'cross map imba zerg' thing was so last year, when Terrans could only timing push and not realise that split map with 4th and 5th base sniping was an easy win.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
November 05 2011 11:44 GMT
#2700
On November 05 2011 20:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:

I can take criticism, I am pointing out that the criticism is shit. You think I or anyone else should sit here and thank people for posting dumb things on this forum? If you can't be constructive, then you are of no use. Amusing isn't it, how community members often think to post that I can't take criticism and yet throw up their hands in grave offense whenever I don't treat their comments as pure internet gold. They are the random, unjustified and badly written remarks of a spectator, after the game has finished.


The criticism isn't shit, multiple people in this thread have told you that Idra won those engagements pretty handily.

No wonder Idra thinks you're a shit caster. You have little knowledge and lots of ego.
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