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[IPL Team Arena] Fnatic vs. Dignitas

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IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 17:53:53
September 11 2011 00:32 GMT
#1
[image loading]



The time has come for our seventh IGN Pro League Team Arena! This is a (follow closely) weekly winner's format team king of the hill showmatch series. For better clarification, check out our
IPL Team Arena General Discussion thread!


Stream Link: http://www.ign.com/ipl


When: Tuesday, Sep 13 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also have a European re-broadcast as usual at Tuesday, Sep 13 4:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))



Prizes

The first team to defeat everyone on the opposing team's roster (5 wins, or a best of 9) will earn $500 for their team to split however they want. To make things even more interesting, we are including a $100 bounty for each victory that a team earns, for new challengers to try and claim. For example, if a team wins 3 weeks in a row, they will have earned themselves $1,500 total, and have $300 worth of bounty on them. If a new team defeats them, they will earn the $500 for winning the week, as well as claim the $300 bounty.




Fnatic is the second team to win the IPL Team Arena, and they have earned themselves $1000 and a $200 bounty on their heads. Dignitas has always been a formidable clan war team and they are anxious for their chance to prove themselves this week. Here are their full rosters:

Dignitas
SjoW
SeleCT
meRz
PuReBall
Bischu
BlinG
Naniwa
Killer
TanDongHo
Apollo

FnaticMSI
Rain
IefNaij
KawaiiRice
NightEnd
TT1
ToD

New teams will be invited each week to take on the previous week's winner.

The First Match of the IPL Team Arena is on Tuesday, Sep 13 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also have a European re-broadcast as usual at Tuesday, Sep 13 4:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))


Poll: Who Will Win?!D

Dignitas (61)
 
70%

FnaticMSI (26)
 
30%

87 total votes

Your vote: Who Will Win?!D

(Vote): Dignitas
(Vote): FnaticMSI




Results!

+ Show Spoiler [FnaticMSI vs. Dignitas Results] +
NightEnd < Shakuras Plateau > Bischu
NightEnd < Xel'Naga Caverns > SjoW
NightEnd < Metalopolis > Killer
TT1 < Antiga Shipyard > Killer
KawaiiRice < Xel'Naga Fortress > Killer
KawaiiRice < Tal'Darim Altar > meRz
Rain < Dual Sight > meRz
Rain < Crevasse > BlinG
Congratulations FnaticMSI for their third win, taking the series 5-3 and earning $500!



Map List

Xel'Naga Caverns
Metalopolis
Shakuras Plateau
Crevasse
Tal Darim Altar
Dual Sight
Xel'Naga Fortress
Terminus
Shattered Temple
Daybreak
Antiga Shipyard

The first map will be on a set rotation, and then it is loser's pick.



Casters

This week's games will be commentated by CatsPajamas, HDStarCraft, and/or PainUser



We have already invited several teams and have more in mind, but if you would like your team to be considered for the IPL Team Arena as well, please send a letter of interest as well as a description of your team and a roster to iplquestions@ign.com!



Stay up to date with the IPL 2 Main Event, IPL TV, and IPL Team Arena by checking our Broadcast Schedule, [image loading] Facebook, [image loading] Twitter, [image loading] YouTube, and Justin.TV!


last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
September 11 2011 00:38 GMT
#2
Is ToD allowed to play?

This is a pretty big match between two foreign titans, but the lack of Zergs in the Fnatic roster always jumps out at me.
IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
September 11 2011 00:41 GMT
#3
Sure he is! The news was just announced, though, so it's unlikely he'll make an appearance.
Icekommander
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada483 Posts
September 11 2011 00:49 GMT
#4
Sjow Select Naniwa and TDH all have the ability to kill Rain. Given this seems to be the element that Reign and It's Gosu were missing, I think we'll have a new king on top of the hill tonight
Time Flies like an arrow. Fruit Flies like a banana.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
September 11 2011 02:23 GMT
#5
On September 11 2011 09:49 Icekommander wrote:
Sjow Select Naniwa and TDH all have the ability to kill Rain. Given this seems to be the element that Reign and It's Gosu were missing, I think we'll have a new king on top of the hill tonight

Rain still has the ability to take out everyone on dignitas as well so dont count it against them. you also cant totally disregard fnatic's other players. theyre all quite able to take matches from any of dignitas' players..
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
September 11 2011 02:53 GMT
#6
Rain is someone to be feared on Fnatic, but I think Dignitas has what it takes to take him out. Go Dignitas!
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
September 11 2011 03:05 GMT
#7
Let's see if Rain cleans house again.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Icekommander
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada483 Posts
September 11 2011 03:19 GMT
#8
On September 11 2011 11:23 JiYan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 09:49 Icekommander wrote:
Sjow Select Naniwa and TDH all have the ability to kill Rain. Given this seems to be the element that Reign and It's Gosu were missing, I think we'll have a new king on top of the hill tonight

Rain still has the ability to take out everyone on dignitas as well so dont count it against them. you also cant totally disregard fnatic's other players. theyre all quite able to take matches from any of dignitas' players..


True, but Rain is 6-0 in the IPL Arena, and the collected rest of the team is 4-8. The only other player even breaking even is Nightend (and Tod, but he hasn't played yet). So it seems like an outside chance at best that the other fnatic members will be a major force, although I'll concede that Tod and Nightend could bring some fire as well. But I still favour Sjow/Select/TDH/Naniwa over Tod/Nightend/Rain
Time Flies like an arrow. Fruit Flies like a banana.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 11 2011 03:44 GMT
#9
Half of Dignitas is in Korea though
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sLBraemar
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada285 Posts
September 11 2011 03:46 GMT
#10
ToD Fighting, ToD all kill incoming!
Don't wait for an opportunity to come to you, create your own.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
September 11 2011 04:16 GMT
#11
Should be a good one, but didn't y'all say, or at least hint that Team Liquid was going to be next and then some Korean teams? Or am I totally off and just making stuff up? :o
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AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
September 11 2011 17:59 GMT
#12
Team Liquid's members are scattered all over the globe competing in many prestigious tournaments. We'll have them on as soon as humanly possible. =D
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Joshy.IGN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States530 Posts
September 12 2011 17:05 GMT
#13
Don't forget that this starts in just about 7 hours! Right now the poll favors Dignitas, any thoughts as to why?
IGN eSports Community Marketing Manager || http://www.ign.com/ipl
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
September 12 2011 17:15 GMT
#14
Dignitas has much more flexibility in terms of who they can send out, and don't have to prepare XvZ at all. I'll have to cast my vote for Dignitas.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
Spaceneil8
Profile Joined February 2011
United States317 Posts
September 12 2011 18:43 GMT
#15
It would be nice if IGN would post the players that are sent out first for both teams. GSTL does that and it really helps build hype if we see who's sent put first.
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
September 12 2011 19:08 GMT
#16
As the Poll title already says: D(ignitas) will take it!

gogogo
Wanderville
Profile Joined April 2011
Honduras12 Posts
September 12 2011 19:20 GMT
#17
Its not only rain that has to be beaten... its also kawaiirice... he's been playin on the korean server and hes gettin some good results
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
September 12 2011 21:28 GMT
#18
Dignitas has a deeper team, but doesn't seem like anyone can beat rain on IGN
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
September 12 2011 22:02 GMT
#19
Fnatic easy, half of Dignitas is in Korea.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10668 Posts
September 12 2011 22:09 GMT
#20
Fnatic with no Zergs.......Dignitas will win easy...... ^_^
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Nosferatos
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway783 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-12 22:21:44
September 12 2011 22:16 GMT
#21
On September 13 2011 02:05 Joshy.IGN wrote:
Don't forget that this starts in just about 7 hours! Right now the poll favors Dignitas, any thoughts as to why?


Because of Sjow, Nani and Select. But are they even playing, seeing as they're in Korea?
"Show me the Raven" ~ HMS turns into a mini-nuke, going twice as fast and doing 250 damage over a large area.
Joshy.IGN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States530 Posts
September 13 2011 00:08 GMT
#22
IPL Team Arena is now LIVE with our first match between Dignitas.Bischu vs. FnaticMSI.NightEnd! http://www.ign.com/ipl
IGN eSports Community Marketing Manager || http://www.ign.com/ipl
chocolatebunny
Profile Joined September 2011
301 Posts
September 13 2011 00:24 GMT
#23
hmm. seeing fnatic's roster always makes laugh because its so much smaller than the team they are facing. it's like almost all of them will play in ipl team arena
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
September 13 2011 00:27 GMT
#24
beat that 1-1-1 nightend!
Nosferatos
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway783 Posts
September 13 2011 00:31 GMT
#25
Weak from Sjow there, smart play by Nightend flanking inn behind.
"Show me the Raven" ~ HMS turns into a mini-nuke, going twice as fast and doing 250 damage over a large area.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
September 13 2011 00:48 GMT
#26
I dunno what Nightend was thinking of for mass zealots..
Go go Alliance.
chocolatebunny
Profile Joined September 2011
301 Posts
September 13 2011 00:53 GMT
#27
im sorta new to this format, but are the games played on the NA server?
is that why having people from dignitias in korea matters, or is it the time zone difference.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 13 2011 00:55 GMT
#28
Lag/timezone issues, I guess.
desderak
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
September 13 2011 01:03 GMT
#29
surprised how few views these team arenas get tbh, i always find them enjoyable to follow
Everhate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States640 Posts
September 13 2011 01:04 GMT
#30
Interesting build by TT1 that had potentially to steamroll in another couple of minutes, excellently timed attack by Killer though.

Kind of surprised TT1 didn't go for templar tech (any combination of ht/dt/archon as his gateway count was swelling would have been an interesting choice)
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
September 13 2011 01:04 GMT
#31
cool strat from TT1 on the fast 3rd but horrible map/positions to do it..


close positions going 3rd nexus and 85 probe is just asking to be overrun by roaches.
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Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
September 13 2011 01:59 GMT
#32
Ouch, Cats just spoiling the final game even before it starts by stating it's the final game. Means that Rain will indeed win over Bling even though that is not really a surprise considering the two players.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
September 13 2011 02:10 GMT
#33
Rain too good for the 3rd week running.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 02:37:53
September 13 2011 02:30 GMT
#34
On September 13 2011 10:03 desderak wrote:
surprised how few views these team arenas get tbh, i always find them enjoyable to follow

Honestly I am not that surprised. There are a lot of streams active at any time and a lot of tournaments also offers vods. Therefore people shop around and watch only what they enjoy the most as there just is more content available then that there is time in the day.

I personally won't be tuning in anymore to this series (tonight was my first) due to the following reasons.
* I personally don't like the casting combo of HD/Cats. Not to say that they are bad, I just don't like them.
* [Note: This one is more accurate for IPL2, I have no idea if this was valid for the IPL Team Arena.] Looking at the strategies employed it looks like there is quite a big delay between the day the games were played and the day they were broadcasted.
* Biggest problem: You don't spoil a game before it airs. That also means that you don't say about the 8th game in a BO9 that it is the last game.


-----

Edit:

Looking at the view count for the EG Master Cup (a comparable event although without the All-Kill format) I think the low view count for the IPL-TA is because of the casters used.

* IPL-TA - 2.5k viewers (IIRC) - Cats/HD
* EG-MC - 3k viewers - DJwheat/IdrA

Now before people say the 500 people is not a big difference: I fully agree. However the Day9 daily runs at the same time as the EG-MC does and it has 13k viewers. I think it is fair to say that without the Daily the difference would be bigger though.
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 03:25:07
September 13 2011 03:24 GMT
#35
On September 13 2011 11:30 Wroshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 10:03 desderak wrote:
surprised how few views these team arenas get tbh, i always find them enjoyable to follow

Honestly I am not that surprised. There are a lot of streams active at any time and a lot of tournaments also offers vods. Therefore people shop around and watch only what they enjoy the most as there just is more content available then that there is time in the day.

I personally won't be tuning in anymore to this series (tonight was my first) due to the following reasons.
* I personally don't like the casting combo of HD/Cats. Not to say that they are bad, I just don't like them.
* [Note: This one is more accurate for IPL2, I have no idea if this was valid for the IPL Team Arena.] Looking at the strategies employed it looks like there is quite a big delay between the day the games were played and the day they were broadcasted.
* Biggest problem: You don't spoil a game before it airs. That also means that you don't say about the 8th game in a BO9 that it is the last game.

-----

Edit:

Looking at the view count for the EG Master Cup (a comparable event although without the All-Kill format) I think the low view count for the IPL-TA is because of the casters used.

* IPL-TA - 2.5k viewers (IIRC) - Cats/HD
* EG-MC - 3k viewers - DJwheat/IdrA

Now before people say the 500 people is not a big difference: I fully agree. However the Day9 daily runs at the same time as the EG-MC does and it has 13k viewers. I think it is fair to say that without the Daily the difference would be bigger though.



I saw up to 5k during the IPL Team Arena stream so I don't know what you were talking about.

Also EGMCS Started right as IPL Team arena ended.
Mirhi
Profile Joined February 2010
United States389 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 03:37:13
September 13 2011 03:36 GMT
#36
All IPL Team Arena matches are less than a week old.
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zmatter
Profile Joined August 2011
United States12 Posts
September 13 2011 04:50 GMT
#37
I really can't stand watching HD anymore. Yeah, CatsPajamas screwed up but I think he's still a decent caster. HD on the other hand just tries way too hard to be funny and ends up wasting everyone's time. It's gotten to the point where IPL is unbearable to listen to whenever he's on.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
September 13 2011 04:52 GMT
#38
So sad to see dignitas only field SjoW of its best players.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
September 13 2011 05:16 GMT
#39
On September 13 2011 12:24 Toppp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 11:30 Wroshe wrote:
On September 13 2011 10:03 desderak wrote:
surprised how few views these team arenas get tbh, i always find them enjoyable to follow

Honestly I am not that surprised. There are a lot of streams active at any time and a lot of tournaments also offers vods. Therefore people shop around and watch only what they enjoy the most as there just is more content available then that there is time in the day.

I personally won't be tuning in anymore to this series (tonight was my first) due to the following reasons.
* I personally don't like the casting combo of HD/Cats. Not to say that they are bad, I just don't like them.
* [Note: This one is more accurate for IPL2, I have no idea if this was valid for the IPL Team Arena.] Looking at the strategies employed it looks like there is quite a big delay between the day the games were played and the day they were broadcasted.
* Biggest problem: You don't spoil a game before it airs. That also means that you don't say about the 8th game in a BO9 that it is the last game.

-----

Edit:

Looking at the view count for the EG Master Cup (a comparable event although without the All-Kill format) I think the low view count for the IPL-TA is because of the casters used.

* IPL-TA - 2.5k viewers (IIRC) - Cats/HD
* EG-MC - 3k viewers - DJwheat/IdrA

Now before people say the 500 people is not a big difference: I fully agree. However the Day9 daily runs at the same time as the EG-MC does and it has 13k viewers. I think it is fair to say that without the Daily the difference would be bigger though.



I saw up to 5k during the IPL Team Arena stream so I don't know what you were talking about.

Also EGMCS Started right as IPL Team arena ended.

I was kinda late at tuning in because I was busy, highest I saw was 2.5k hence that number.

Assuming it indeed scored that number the reasoning is invalid even though the viewing count is still quite low.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 17:07:24
September 13 2011 17:07 GMT
#40
Pretty solid play from NightEnD so far, but really confusing play from his opponents. Bischu's chargelot attack up a ramp was pretty strange, but why SjoW opted for a medivac over banshee-raven, and opted for siege over cloak, I really don't understand. He could've waited longer to attack and he would've been fine.

And then, why send SjoW against NEnD? You've gotta save SjoW for Rain.
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JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
September 13 2011 17:27 GMT
#41
i personally think cats needs more work as a caster than HD. i dont really have a problem with HD's casting but i always feel like cats is performing an elaborate monologue for a mundane acting scene. regardless though its all very bearable and i really enjoy the high level matchups. if i ever get too bothered i can always just mute it.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
September 13 2011 17:46 GMT
#42
with both naniwa and select missing, this outcome wasn't too shocking =(
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 19:33:55
September 13 2011 19:32 GMT
#43
Who are the casters? Enjoying their casting so far.

edit: nvm, just read the whole op

and also just noticed it's a re-broadcast, dammit
ffxiv enjoyer
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
September 13 2011 22:12 GMT
#44
HD don't need what he talks about regarding the 1/1/1, sorry but the proper response is 1 gate FE or so because you need it then go into 2 gate and cut probes around 30-38 with robotics chronoing out immortals and zealots/sentries and a few stalkers. HD suggests 1 base against 1/1/1 is suicide, if they get contain your screwed.
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JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
September 14 2011 06:02 GMT
#45
yea 1 base vs 1/1/1 like that is just asking to lose
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