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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
September 16 2011 00:00 GMT
#581
On September 16 2011 08:59 ZOMGitsTHEEND wrote:
gg from ret. He had way too many drones there


Having 70+ drones on only 2bases is like completely wasting 20 drones doing nothing because they are just running back and forth between minerals. No reason you need that many that early on.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
September 16 2011 00:01 GMT
#582
On September 16 2011 08:59 Megatronn wrote:
Why does Ret think he can get away with making that many Drones...


Because he's Ret. That's his style. He does get away with it from time to time, and if White Ra hadn't punished him for it, Ret would have basically had a free win.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
September 16 2011 00:01 GMT
#583
On September 16 2011 09:00 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 08:59 Elem wrote:
I don't get why people want DIMAGA, Kas, Nerchio, Strelok or Stephano when they haven't even gone to a single MLG event. >_>


Because they're better than most foreigners in the tourney anyways.


Uh but this tourney is qualification for MLG National Finals. What's the point in inviting people who most likely are not going to come.
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
September 16 2011 00:02 GMT
#584
Greedy play by Ret, and well known by White-Ra to attack there, White-Ra gonna take the win hopefully.
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
September 16 2011 00:02 GMT
#585
On September 16 2011 09:01 dtz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 09:00 mordk wrote:
On September 16 2011 08:59 Elem wrote:
I don't get why people want DIMAGA, Kas, Nerchio, Strelok or Stephano when they haven't even gone to a single MLG event. >_>


Because they're better than most foreigners in the tourney anyways.


Uh but this tourney is qualification for MLG National Finals. What's the point in inviting people who most likely are not going to come.

1st in Region = $2,000 per player = $6,000 Total (plus all-expenses paid Providence trip)

I think they will go...
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
September 16 2011 00:02 GMT
#586
so ret sees 8(?) gateways and a voidray/stargate and still drones up? not that smart
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
September 16 2011 00:02 GMT
#587
On September 16 2011 09:00 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 08:59 ZOMGitsTHEEND wrote:
gg from ret. He had way too many drones there


Having 70+ drones on only 2bases is like completely wasting 20 drones doing nothing because they are just running back and forth between minerals. No reason you need that many that early on.


You aren't understanding how he uses those drones. Rather than continuing to make Drones once the third goes up, he simply transfers a large amount from his main and natural and goes straight into combat unit production.

That quick saturation causes his economy to EXPLODE.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
September 16 2011 00:02 GMT
#588
On September 16 2011 09:00 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 08:59 ZOMGitsTHEEND wrote:
gg from ret. He had way too many drones there


Having 70+ drones on only 2bases is like completely wasting 20 drones doing nothing because they are just running back and forth between minerals. No reason you need that many that early on.


he didn't really play to the map. Usually he'd have a 3rd base so his income would be through the roof, and he'd be floating 10 thousand minerals when his tech kicks in and he'll pop out 24 infestors or 73 roaches or something insane.

on this map though, you don't drone straight to 75 until the 3rd base is up.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
September 16 2011 00:02 GMT
#589
On September 16 2011 09:00 Oboeman wrote:
75 drones on 2 bases was a little bit unnecessary. You are allowed to stop at 60 and then make 30 more drones once the 3rd base finishes.

It's worth noting that on any other map, his 3rd hatch would have been at a 3rd base and he'd have 75 drones mining on 3 bases, but nothing to spend the money on.


Yea that is quite surprising actually. Usually he made a 3rd or 4th hatch next to the rocks anyway ( see Blizz EU invitational). So he goes like 5 hatches in 9 minutes. Wonder why he didn't do it this time.
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
September 16 2011 00:03 GMT
#590
On September 16 2011 08:59 Elem wrote:
I don't get why people want DIMAGA, Kas, Nerchio, Strelok or Stephano when they haven't even gone to a single MLG event. >_>


Stephano is going to next MLG. You'll see why then...
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 00:04:07
September 16 2011 00:03 GMT
#591
On September 16 2011 09:01 dtz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 09:00 mordk wrote:
On September 16 2011 08:59 Elem wrote:
I don't get why people want DIMAGA, Kas, Nerchio, Strelok or Stephano when they haven't even gone to a single MLG event. >_>


Because they're better than most foreigners in the tourney anyways.


Uh but this tourney is qualification for MLG National Finals. What's the point in inviting people who most likely are not going to come.


People will go if there's something decent for them to play for. It's just not worth it anytime after the first couple of rounds of the season for EU players to head over if they aren't in pool play (with this seasons point scheme).
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 00:05:45
September 16 2011 00:04 GMT
#592
Always annoyed me how people acted like making nothing but tons of drones is somehow amazing and takes skill. Its not hard to sit there and press your drone hotkey over and over especially when you're not even timing it right. He just had 2 severely over saturated bases for several minutes. Theres a difference between macroing hard and properly and just making nothing but drones at the wrong times which are then useless for several minutes and you die anyway.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 00:06:26
September 16 2011 00:04 GMT
#593
Results ? Was this the first match ?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Global_Invitational/Europe
oh, I only missed the TvT, gratz Jinro
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 00:06:39
September 16 2011 00:05 GMT
#594
On September 16 2011 09:03 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 09:01 dtz wrote:
On September 16 2011 09:00 mordk wrote:
On September 16 2011 08:59 Elem wrote:
I don't get why people want DIMAGA, Kas, Nerchio, Strelok or Stephano when they haven't even gone to a single MLG event. >_>


Because they're better than most foreigners in the tourney anyways.


Uh but this tourney is qualification for MLG National Finals. What's the point in inviting people who most likely are not going to come.


People will go if there's something for them decent to play for. It's just not worth it anytime after the first couple of rounds of the season for EU players to head over if they aren't in pool play (with this seasons point scheme).


Yeah i agree but you never know their plans. Maybe the Eastern Europeans are not confident they can get visa. While Nerchio has stated he doesn't want to play away from home no?

Stephano was supposed to go to Korea as well (unless it was just a rumor). haven't heard that he is going to next MLG but that will be AWESOME if he does.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 16 2011 00:05 GMT
#595
On September 16 2011 09:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 09:00 Zooper31 wrote:
On September 16 2011 08:59 ZOMGitsTHEEND wrote:
gg from ret. He had way too many drones there


Having 70+ drones on only 2bases is like completely wasting 20 drones doing nothing because they are just running back and forth between minerals. No reason you need that many that early on.


You aren't understanding how he uses those drones. Rather than continuing to make Drones once the third goes up, he simply transfers a large amount from his main and natural and goes straight into combat unit production.

That quick saturation causes his economy to EXPLODE.


Oversaturating your minerals so you can quickly transfer to your expo later makes sense for Terran and Protoss but not as much for Zerg, since he can just make 20 drones in one round instead after he gets his 3rd up anyway.
chestnutman
Profile Joined March 2011
176 Posts
September 16 2011 00:06 GMT
#596
Ret making anything but drones before the 8 minute mark would be like GoOdy getting stim pack.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
September 16 2011 00:06 GMT
#597
How many games have been played? OP isn't updated, can anyone make a quick recap?
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
September 16 2011 00:06 GMT
#598
ret dying from overdroning. who would have guessed? -.-

hope he gets a better start in game 2.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 16 2011 00:07 GMT
#599
On September 16 2011 09:06 mordk wrote:
How many games have been played? OP isn't updated, can anyone make a quick recap?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Global_Invitational/Europe
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
September 16 2011 00:08 GMT
#600
ret making 5 overlords at once... wtf
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