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JelleSlaets
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium57 Posts
September 11 2011 18:53 GMT
#2081
On September 12 2011 03:48 FLu wrote:
Great tournament, looking forward to the next one. I have one suggestion though. Take your time to prepare the next one. If you organize a tournament every month, I fear that people would stop watching. Just my 2 cents


It's already a long wait.
After 3 weeks of waiting, it already feels an eternity ago since the last one took place.
Hippies.They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.
Ruyguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada988 Posts
September 11 2011 18:55 GMT
#2082
Congrats to Socke! too bad I wasn't able to watch any of this because of timezones...maybe I'll watch vods.
trancey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany729 Posts
September 11 2011 19:02 GMT
#2083
haha nice, finals rematch.
hope someone steps up to challenge the champion next time. DeMusliM would be cool.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
September 11 2011 19:03 GMT
#2084
Lol same top 2 as last time xD Congrats Socke
sashamunguia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico423 Posts
September 11 2011 19:10 GMT
#2085
i wish there was a reccommended games thing

well, I couldn't see all games, but it was a very nice tournament as usual TB

I was particularily amazed by DDE, I mean, he's great and all, but I feel I don't see enough of him
"only the need for meaning changes how you feel about what you see" "he who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life" "being a Rebel is as stupid as to be completely Obedient"
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 19:41:42
September 11 2011 19:21 GMT
#2086
Nice tournament again, I enjoyed the finals

I want to say again tho that I don't like that you mix in 3 players who haven't shown any impressive results lately. I totally understand that you get a shit-ton of viewers if you have Destiny, Tyler and TLO in your tournament but the quality of the games just suffers a lot and out of 8 series, 3 were totally expected one sided rapes and Destiny vs TLO was a match where the winners goes on to get destroyed 2 times in the semis and 3rd place match.
Next time only one dark horse/fan favorit please

edit: Or if you have more than 1 then please make the bracket seedings based on skill so after the first round the matches are more even.
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 11 2011 19:39 GMT
#2087
Fantastic tournament.

I hope Intricacy and TB know that the ShoutCraft Invitational series are hugely appreciated by many. And while not all the games were the best, that is not something one can control and the main thing is that something like this is actually done.

Will of course continue to watch and support this endeavour.
Archile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States403 Posts
September 11 2011 19:48 GMT
#2088
On September 12 2011 04:21 Ragoo wrote:
Nice tournament again, I enjoyed the finals

I want to say again tho that I don't like that you mix in 3 players who haven't shown any impressive results lately. I totally understand that you get a shit-ton of viewers if you have Destiny, Tyler and TLO in your tournament but the quality of the games just suffers a lot and out of 8 series, 3 were totally expected one sided rapes and Destiny vs TLO was a match where the winners goes on to get destroyed 2 times in the semis and 3rd place match.
Next time only one dark horse/fan favorit please

edit: Or if you have more than 1 then please make the bracket seedings based on skill so after the first round the matches are more even.


Destiny, Tyler, and TLO are all fantastic players, and they propose a great amount of viewers to the tournament (as you said) but if they had played their best im sure they could have made it farther in the tournament.

also, "the quality of the games" is varied based on perspective.
myself, i love watching games from these three, and all the other players in this tournament for that matter.

dont go around asking tournaments to change to suit your personal opinion, instead find one that already does -_-
Just a bad player trying to be a little less bad
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
September 11 2011 19:50 GMT
#2089
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Atrimex
Profile Joined July 2011
193 Posts
September 11 2011 19:50 GMT
#2090
The only outstanding things at this event are the cast and the prize pool, everything else isnt better as a quarter final in a weekly online cup.
Spacedude
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 21:26:11
September 11 2011 20:17 GMT
#2091
Hey, it was a really good tournament! The games might not have been as epic as the average game from SCI2, but that's just how the wheel turns. I'm looking forward to the SCI4, for sure.

My biggest issue with this tournament was probably with the chat room, and mind you, this is one of the best moderated chat rooms that I know of. There was still a ton of the usual 'OP this, OP that' bias which all but consumes the chat much of the time. As I understand it, the mods believes that it's practically impossible to kick/delete all of these people/messages, and if that's true then it's sad that we as a community ruins it for ourselves, I feel.

I don't feel that people understand that it's the owner of the chat room, in this case TB, that sets the standard for it, not us, and that we should respect that. Other people set a different standard for their chat, like Destiny's chat, for example. I enjoy the diversity of all of these chat rooms, mind you. I don't want them to be the same, at all. If you think a certain style of moderation is censorship then you're simply wrong - it is diversity and you know the rules beforehand. And we're all richer because of it. Do you really only want one type of chat moderation?

Anyhow, the chat doesn't ruin the actual games for me, but I'd be nice, still, to have a mosly non-spam chat room, also.

Thanks, TB, Apollo, mods, admin, agent (Intricacy), the players and all the rest that made this an enjoyable event to be part of.
Protoss win, Protoss OP. Terran win, Terran OP. Zerg win, Zerg OP. Less whine, more gg.
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
September 11 2011 20:26 GMT
#2092
hell of a great job by TB & apollo, but damn socke, nice work
North Korea is best Korea!
Spacedude
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 20:32:23
September 11 2011 20:31 GMT
#2093
On September 12 2011 04:50 Sated wrote:
Wow, I think it's a bit unfair that TLO played pretty terribly today and still got that many tips, but I guess that's what popularity will do for you


You do not only give tips to the players based on their performance for this particular tournament only. There's a lot of other elements going into such a decision. How well a particular player did in it could be one of them, but so could sympathy for the hard work that TLO has put into his play lately, ect.
Protoss win, Protoss OP. Terran win, Terran OP. Zerg win, Zerg OP. Less whine, more gg.
Korben
Profile Joined September 2010
United States139 Posts
September 11 2011 20:55 GMT
#2094
On September 12 2011 04:50 Sated wrote:
Wow, I think it's a bit unfair that TLO played pretty terribly today and still got that many tips, but I guess that's what popularity will do for you


True, but he played very well yesterday, the tips total is not just from today. Yes he got outplayed today, but gotta take the "Bigger Picture" into account.
Pain Heals, Chicks Dig Scars and Glory Lasts Forever.
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
September 11 2011 21:15 GMT
#2095
Great tournament the tip jars are a fantastic idea! Keep up the good work cant wait for number 4.

On September 12 2011 05:17 Spacedude wrote:
Thanks, TB, Apollo, mods, admin, staff (Intricacy that I know of), the players and all the rest that made this an enjoyable event to be part of.


.... oh you did not just call her "staff" ... im gonna get you a crash helmet and wish you good luck
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 21:18:20
September 11 2011 21:17 GMT
#2096
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Spacedude
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 21:25:47
September 11 2011 21:21 GMT
#2097
On September 12 2011 06:15 Archybaldie wrote:
Great tournament the tip jars are a fantastic idea! Keep up the good work cant wait for number 4.

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On September 12 2011 05:17 Spacedude wrote:
Thanks, TB, Apollo, mods, admin, staff (Intricacy that I know of), the players and all the rest that made this an enjoyable event to be part of.


.... oh you did not just call her "staff" ... im gonna get you a crash helmet and wish you good luck


What's wrong with the word 'staff'? Does that imply something negative? Or just wrong context? 'Agent' should be good, though, so I'll change it to that. :p
Protoss win, Protoss OP. Terran win, Terran OP. Zerg win, Zerg OP. Less whine, more gg.
JelleSlaets
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium57 Posts
September 11 2011 21:26 GMT
#2098
On September 12 2011 06:17 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 05:55 Korben wrote:
On September 12 2011 04:50 Sated wrote:
Wow, I think it's a bit unfair that TLO played pretty terribly today and still got that many tips, but I guess that's what popularity will do for you


True, but he played very well yesterday, the tips total is not just from today. Yes he got outplayed today, but gotta take the "Bigger Picture" into account.

If you take the bigger picture into account then shouldn't the players who absolutely rolled through him get more tips? I guess the amount it is higher by is what astounds me more than it is simply the highest but it's not a big deal anyway.


There is this saying: If you want people to like you, try being successful. If you want people to hate you, actually be successful.

People can also like his personality, his creativity, his background, ...

I see no reason why tips should go even with performance. That's what the prize money is for.
Hippies.They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
September 11 2011 21:36 GMT
#2099
Tips are entirely the personal choice of the donor and no reasons need to be given.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 21:39:00
September 11 2011 21:37 GMT
#2100
On September 12 2011 06:17 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 05:55 Korben wrote:
On September 12 2011 04:50 Sated wrote:
Wow, I think it's a bit unfair that TLO played pretty terribly today and still got that many tips, but I guess that's what popularity will do for you


True, but he played very well yesterday, the tips total is not just from today. Yes he got outplayed today, but gotta take the "Bigger Picture" into account.

If you take the bigger picture into account then shouldn't the players who absolutely rolled through him get more tips? I guess the amount it is higher by is what astounds me more than it is simply the highest but it's not a big deal anyway.


How can you talk about the bigger picture but not realize that you are missing the bigger picture, which is more than just the results he posted. The tips are merely an easy way of people supporting the players that they like. It doesn't have to be based off their results (though it may be), but it can instead be based off his personality, the creativity he showed in game, etc.

If it were based on how well they played, how would that be any different than simply raising the prize pool and giving the players who got further even more money... I don't see your logic. On top of that, what do you even suggest they do? Force people who want to donate to TLO (because he is their favorite player, or whatever other reason) to instead tip another player? It makes no sense. I guess you wanted people to say "well I like TLO, but I will give my money to DDE since he got further but isn't getting tipped as much"?
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