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On August 31 2011 21:05 Disquiet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 21:00 Micket wrote:
What July lacks in creep spread and injects, he makes up for superb decision making and utilizing the Zerg arsenal as flawed as it may be. Players like July and Nestea show us that zerg arsenal is NOT flawed, no matter what other people might think, they are just using it wrong. I can't count how many times I've seen ultras called useless and july shows thats far from the case.
actually it is because the terran was caught completely off guard (for the counter attack) and so he never had the position to defend against what july had
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On August 31 2011 20:58 Montana[TK] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 20:55 Alric wrote:
If July gets macro hatches, keeps up with his injects and spreads creep, he will be brutal. You mean if he learns to play Zerg?
On August 31 2011 19:11 Montana[TK] wrote:
Mvp vs Ryung gonna be amazing.
Better luck next time! :p 
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Some people don't realize that sometimes, as a zerg, knowing when to not make units for a while is a very useful ability to have. Otherwise when your greater spire/ultralisk cavern finishes you end up without the resources and supply to make anything. Sure you can sacrifice a bunch of lings but you're giving your opponent more time to prepare in that case.
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Does being on the same team as an opponent give you a sort of advantage over that opponent?
Like, people are commenting on how MVP roflstomped Nestea and Nestea > July so => MVP wins against July. I imagine, though, that MVP practices against Nestea quite a bit and so has more insight into how he plays than, say, he would with July.
Of course that works both ways, but I dunno... I think I just want to feel like July has more of a chance than my gut tells me he does 
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that MVP stomping Nestea is being taken as a sign of MVP's TvZ being amazing, whereas really it might just be that his TvIM(Z) is amazing
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I want to be wrong cause I'd rather have so many more games but I just feel like MVP is just gonna roll through July and TOP/Polt.
Hope the series are close. You can have a good finals someday GSL, maybe it can happen this GSL?
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On August 31 2011 21:02 Shalaiyn wrote:
It's funny seeing people rag on July but Fruitdealer won the GSL playing really awful by today's standard and everybody loves him.
Totally disagree. Fruitdealer still maintains the "Father of Zerg" status. If you look at his season 1 run, you will see a lot of brilliance that have been copied by other zergs many a time. (baneling carpet bombing? Baneling mines? Infestor play? Ultralisk tech switch? They are all there)
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On August 31 2011 20:54 Kinch wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 20:52 jackdaleaper wrote:
As a zerg I'm glad July won this, but based on his play I'm scared for him against MVP. Well ... MVP is freaking good. He manhandled Nestea, so what Zerg would give him a fight?
Coca and DRG. They both have better ZvT than Nestea.
Its Nestea's weakest MU.
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On August 31 2011 21:12 mikedebo wrote:Does being on the same team as an opponent give you a sort of advantage over that opponent? Like, people are commenting on how MVP roflstomped Nestea and Nestea > July so => MVP wins against July. I imagine, though, that MVP practices against Nestea quite a bit and so has more insight into how he plays than, say, he would with July. Of course that works both ways, but I dunno... I think I just want to feel like July has more of a chance than my gut tells me he does
artosis is rooting for mvp, so i have confidence in july
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On August 31 2011 21:13 usethis2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 21:02 Shalaiyn wrote:
It's funny seeing people rag on July but Fruitdealer won the GSL playing really awful by today's standard and everybody loves him. Totally disagree. Fruitdealer still maintains the "Father of Zerg" status. If you look at his season 1 run, you will see a lot of brilliance that have been copied by other zergs many a time. (baneling carpet bombing? Baneling mines? Infestor play? Ultralisk tech switch? They are all there)
totally agree. You cant compare this metagame to the first fricken season! so much has changed, but he was revolutionary in his time
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On August 31 2011 21:02 Shalaiyn wrote:
It's funny seeing people rag on July but Fruitdealer won the GSL playing really awful by today's standard and everybody loves him.
You can't hate FD. 
You can only be sad for him.
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Tastosis was awesome today! the matches were alright, :D
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On August 31 2011 21:13 IVN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 20:54 Kinch wrote:On August 31 2011 20:52 jackdaleaper wrote:
As a zerg I'm glad July won this, but based on his play I'm scared for him against MVP. Well ... MVP is freaking good. He manhandled Nestea, so what Zerg would give him a fight? Coca and DRG. They both have better ZvT than Nestea. Its Nestea's weakest MU.
Well DRG did take a game off MVP at Anaheim so we know he can put up a fight in a Bo3.
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On August 31 2011 19:50 PHILtheTANK wrote:
FUUUUCK man i jujt psnet an hour and a half trying to explain to my friend why koreans are better than us at SC2. I also had to buy lik e 20 energy drinks and 2 handles to keep them up for this fginal. Im so fuckings sad that hud lost. I was really hopeing hed becomeie the first to wina the fucking gsl who has white skin. lol now there talking about terminator and ajohn connor and skynet, which actually just acam online a few months ago. fuck man i wish i couls watch this on my phone but theres no fucking app for droids to watcsh gsl, instead im stucka here atr the computer. man fuck ryung. i hope july 3winas and beatgs mvp, anbd everyone else, because now that hugds gone this si super gay. fuck all these idiots. julys like super fat ut hes like super fast. i think thats awesome, hes clearly like awesome. if i was that fat and that fastt i would totaly praticiapte in that mlg relay race. i bet he lie shovels rice in his m out like those sumos from that movie three ninjjnas. thats how i found out japanese people just shovel rice ain and i stopped carring about table maners. fuck table manners who cares hnow u eat. that shit is reicicuolous. ma n thi shit shoul d be earlier. all the alcohol is gone and thers no more fun to be had. i cant even awatch this. artosis is making me rthorw up in my mouytnh. we should clearly ahve this shit at 2 pm so i dont ahvae to resoprot to this. but nayway fuck ya. i love gsl. i love sc2. and liall alwayz root for the white dues cuz thats twejhres its at. fuck them koeranz( EVEN THO THOUS HOW I LOVE THEM THYRE AMAZING) L i want them americans and candaians. and skandanavians, and russians, and w/e sles to win some stuff, cuz they aply hard to. honesty why doenat liquor stponsor gsl. who can satay up this late whiaout be3ing drunk. fuck sl time they hould ha e it when iw ant it. all right. go foreightners fuck mvp, fuck most peope, i hope july wins this, cuz hes fat andaeseomse.
Just went through the LR. Forgot to follow it because I was listening to SotG.
And even though SotG was hilarious once again. This post trumps it all.
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MVP didn't really roflstomp. He outplayed game 1 by being greedy and Nestea's passivity, and game 2 was just abusing map terrain/Nestea going hatch first even though he loses to 2 rax on that map all the time. Sure, Nestea is better than July, but that's because no one can match his performance against zerg and protoss. Actually, I would rate July's ZvT as a bit better than Nestea's; what he lacks in mechanics he makes up for in punishing greedy terrans and aggressively trading with opponents.
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ty july ! no tvtvtvt its once was my favorite mirror matchup but i have seen it too much
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On August 31 2011 21:09 tomatriedes wrote:
Some people don't realize that sometimes, as a zerg, knowing when to not make units for a while is a very useful ability to have. Otherwise when your greater spire/ultralisk cavern finishes you end up without the resources and supply to make anything. Sure you can sacrifice a bunch of lings but you're giving your opponent more time to prepare in that case.
yea zerg is the only race where u can stop production without having it hurt u, ur banking mins but ur pooling larva at the same time so it doesnt really matter when u use the larva(unless u go over the larva limit per hatchery).. its actually alot smarter then just wasting ur eco away uselessly, i think one of julys strongest strenghts is his unit compos and how much thought he puts behind wat he makes
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On August 31 2011 21:16 Femari wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 21:13 IVN wrote:On August 31 2011 20:54 Kinch wrote:On August 31 2011 20:52 jackdaleaper wrote:
As a zerg I'm glad July won this, but based on his play I'm scared for him against MVP. Well ... MVP is freaking good. He manhandled Nestea, so what Zerg would give him a fight? Coca and DRG. They both have better ZvT than Nestea. Its Nestea's weakest MU. Well DRG did take a game off MVP at Anaheim so we know he can put up a fight in a Bo3.
The game he won was a silly Thor rush strategy by MVP. The other two were standard macro games and fairly one sided. DRG didn't really look any better than Nestea in them.
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Julyyyy go win the whole thing please, i'm sad for HuK but this was to be expected
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On August 31 2011 21:17 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 21:09 tomatriedes wrote:
Some people don't realize that sometimes, as a zerg, knowing when to not make units for a while is a very useful ability to have. Otherwise when your greater spire/ultralisk cavern finishes you end up without the resources and supply to make anything. Sure you can sacrifice a bunch of lings but you're giving your opponent more time to prepare in that case. yea zerg is the only race where u can stop production without having it hurt u, ur banking mins but ur pooling larva at the same time so it doesnt really matter when u use the larva(unless u go over the larva limit per hatchery).. its actually alot smarter then just wasting ur eco away uselessly, i think one of julys strongest strenghts is his unit compos and how much thought he puts behind wat units he makes
Not quite, it's still sub-optimal to not spend your larvae because your hatcheries automatically generate up to 3 then stop automatically generating, so if you're not getting yourself under that cap you're missing out on free larva.
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