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reisada
Profile Joined September 2010
183 Posts
August 31 2011 02:19 GMT
#121
puma not taking this would be a surprise
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
August 31 2011 02:21 GMT
#122
I have yet to find a single player in this line up who can give puma the slightest form of resistance, let alone challenge him for the title.
Sith Inquisitor
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany113 Posts
August 31 2011 02:24 GMT
#123
Another season with this bad format? ...how about a Super Tournament Format with 64 or 48 players?
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Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
August 31 2011 02:25 GMT
#124
Pretty amazed that people are saying group 5 is stacked, how much Starcraft have you guys been watching recently?
With the possible exception of Softball, every player in division 3 is top quality and anyone could win that division.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
August 31 2011 02:27 GMT
#125
Not really a fan of two invitational leagues in a row. I think re-doing the qualifiers would have been better.

Oh well, perhaps it will sort itself out next season. By the third season, weaker links would have certainly have filtered out if their maintained a consistent format or held qualifiers, but with a reset there will likely be some left over for the third season.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
August 31 2011 02:27 GMT
#126
On August 31 2011 11:25 Agnosthar wrote:
Pretty amazed that people are saying group 5 is stacked, how much Starcraft have you guys been watching recently?
With the possible exception of Softball, every player in division 3 is top quality and anyone could win that division.

Agreed.

And softball is not an exception. He's supposedly on a similar level to Sen.
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
August 31 2011 02:28 GMT
#127
On August 31 2011 11:27 Mordiford wrote:
Not really a fan of two invitational leagues in a row. I think re-doing the qualifiers would have been better.

Oh well, perhaps it will sort itself out next season. By the third season, weaker links would have certainly have filtered out if their maintained a consistent format or held qualifiers, but with a reset there will likely be some left over for the third season.

There's a timecrunch when it comes to this. Especially with the booking of the venue for the live finals, as well as not having it run into Christmas.

Advertising, preparing, making the production for the qualifiers as well as for those who qualified, casting etc etc. I'm not sure you could run enough qualifiers to replace 14 people.
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
August 31 2011 02:28 GMT
#128
i'd say, from hardest to easiest, the ranking of the groups would be:

Group 3
Group 1
Group 5
Group 2 & 4

although this is all relative. overall i think the groups were pretty well balanced out though..
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
August 31 2011 02:30 GMT
#129
Group 3, owch! but yeah looks like some nice match ups in the following weeks ill be tuning in.
Hunted
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia337 Posts
August 31 2011 02:34 GMT
#130
On August 31 2011 11:25 Agnosthar wrote:
With the possible exception of Softball, every player in division 3 is top quality and anyone could win that division.



Wut, Softball is easily the best player in that group.
Sukari
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia183 Posts
August 31 2011 02:37 GMT
#131
On August 31 2011 11:34 Hunted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 11:25 Agnosthar wrote:
With the possible exception of Softball, every player in division 3 is top quality and anyone could win that division.



Wut, Softball is easily the best player in that group.


Softball and Sen.. Taiwan Hope, again

(ref. the picture uploaded to Sen's facebook page haha)
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Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
August 31 2011 02:37 GMT
#132
Is this over?
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
August 31 2011 02:39 GMT
#133
On August 31 2011 11:21 B.I.G. wrote:
I have yet to find a single player in this line up who can give puma the slightest form of resistance, let alone challenge him for the title.


Kiwi? Huk? IdrA? Sen? White-Ra? Open Bracket player?
We talkin about PRACTICE
Sith Inquisitor
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany113 Posts
August 31 2011 02:40 GMT
#134
On August 31 2011 11:39 mprs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 11:21 B.I.G. wrote:
I have yet to find a single player in this line up who can give puma the slightest form of resistance, let alone challenge him for the title.


Kiwi? Huk? IdrA? Sen? White-Ra? Open Bracket player?


IdrA, you are kidding right?
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hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
August 31 2011 02:44 GMT
#135
Not really a great lineup. I don't really know why I'd buy a pass for these games.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
August 31 2011 02:45 GMT
#136
Mana went 2-0 against Puma in IEM. If anyone can take him out its him.
jnsjr
Profile Joined February 2011
United States461 Posts
August 31 2011 02:48 GMT
#137
Love the lineup. Looking forward to S2.
Z: Idra #1 Stephano JD Scarlett Dimaga Life Violet DRG Sen; T: Demuslim Puma Illusion Bomber Polt TSpoon Strelok; P: Hasuobs Huk; Casters: Apollo #1 Axslav DJWheat Tasteless Bitter Artosis Incontrol RSimpson Psy Team: Let's GO EG!!
kwan84
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada68 Posts
August 31 2011 02:49 GMT
#138
Puma will fuckin rizzzzapppe his grizzoup and the whole competition GOOOO PUMAAAA
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
August 31 2011 02:58 GMT
#139
Sen should have an easy time advancing from his group.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 05:15:22
August 31 2011 03:03 GMT
#140
On August 31 2011 11:28 echO [W] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 11:27 Mordiford wrote:
Not really a fan of two invitational leagues in a row. I think re-doing the qualifiers would have been better.

Oh well, perhaps it will sort itself out next season. By the third season, weaker links would have certainly have filtered out if their maintained a consistent format or held qualifiers, but with a reset there will likely be some left over for the third season.

There's a timecrunch when it comes to this. Especially with the booking of the venue for the live finals, as well as not having it run into Christmas.

Advertising, preparing, making the production for the qualifiers as well as for those who qualified, casting etc etc. I'm not sure you could run enough qualifiers to replace 14 people.


Doesn't take much longer than it took them to make the decision, they could have extended the previous qualifier and taken the top finishers from there and then held another one to take the top 8 from there to round out 14 players.

There are currently players who were selected who were out-done in qualifiers by others and I'm not a fan of completely invite based tournaments anyways, particularly ones that are this large. This was a gripe I had with the first season but didn't really think it was a huge deal because it would sort itself out and filter players as the qualifiers were held.

I have no issue with invites for a small number of players who are generally heads and shoulders above the competition or otherwise stand out, the IPL invited a small number of players for the IPL 3 and while generally I'm more for pure qualifier based tournaments, having a mixed format is fine as long as the invites are small and clearly exceptional. The problem with pure invite is that I can name players that could easily compare with more than half the players on the roster who weren't invited.

A similar issue arises with MLG's format which is something that isn't problematic when they use it for Halo. In Halo, the top teams are pretty far out from others, but in SC2 there are a number of players who are forced through the open bracket who could give the pool players a run for their money, particularly some of the weaker pool players so the cushion is too excessive.

In Starcraft, there are a lot more comparable players so invitations can often leave out numerous players who could have competed. It's really unfortunate and therefor not a format I like watching simply because knowing that some players may have been unfairly slighted despite their performance ruins the experience a bit.
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