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2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
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Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 28 2011 03:37 GMT
#10481
On August 28 2011 12:27 Ghoststrikes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:26 red4ce wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:23 Ghoststrikes wrote:
MLG system works fine. So far, 3 out of 3 (the 4th being TLO, yet to play vs DeMuslim) 6th place in pool beat their opponent coming from the open loser's bracket. Yes, maybe those players have had a lot of games to play but still, I think it proves that the system isn't as bad as some people portray it.

Edit: ok so while I was typing that Demuslim won game 1, but still :D


You just described the exact reason why people think MLG's system sucks.


People from open bracket can't beat people from pool play, what's the problem?


You don't see a problem with MLG determining that a player who wins 1 BoX throughout the entire tournament is better than a player who wins 5?
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
August 28 2011 03:37 GMT
#10482
"DeMuslim finishes the night with six straight TvT wins. He takes the CLR2 series with TLO 2-0. See you all tomorrow!" whoot
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
August 28 2011 03:37 GMT
#10483
On August 28 2011 12:34 Scrandom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:27 Ghoststrikes wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:26 red4ce wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:23 Ghoststrikes wrote:
MLG system works fine. So far, 3 out of 3 (the 4th being TLO, yet to play vs DeMuslim) 6th place in pool beat their opponent coming from the open loser's bracket. Yes, maybe those players have had a lot of games to play but still, I think it proves that the system isn't as bad as some people portray it.

Edit: ok so while I was typing that Demuslim won game 1, but still :D


You just described the exact reason why people think MLG's system sucks.


People from open bracket can't beat people from pool play, what's the problem?


I guarantee multiple people in pool play wouldn't make it through open bracket


Have you seen the same open bracket that the rest of us have? This events pool play especially was very weak.
junemermaid
Profile Joined September 2006
United States981 Posts
August 28 2011 03:37 GMT
#10484
On August 28 2011 12:35 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:24 Kamikazess wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:23 karis wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:22 Kamikazess wrote:
DRG' record is 8-3 and Select's 8-2, right? How is this a tie?


match record. + drg won head to head.


But Select has lost less games. So, he is ahead, not?


Nope, goes on head to head instead of games won/lost.

Kinda a stupid rule imo that not many tournaments at least in Europe have but MLG do love their stupid rules.

Extended series... Determining 3 way ties by seeds... etc etc...


Extended series is probably the biggest turn off about MLG.
the UMP says YER OUT
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
August 28 2011 03:37 GMT
#10485
On August 28 2011 12:34 SharkHuh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:33 Devise wrote:
I hope a non code S wins, so we can see a new code S player.

There will always be a new code S player. If the winner is already Code S, a previous matches winner will be awarded Code S. Happened in the last MLG where the MMA/Boxer match was for the code S spot because MVP was already Code S.


It won't always be given. You have to be top 3 to be eligible. Code S won't be given to 4th place.
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
August 28 2011 03:38 GMT
#10486
I hope puma gets code S, he is definitely code S caliber. I'd also be happy with DRG or a foreigner winning code S too.
Sanchonator
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia490 Posts
August 28 2011 03:39 GMT
#10487
On August 28 2011 12:30 Samim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:27 Ghoststrikes wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:26 red4ce wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:23 Ghoststrikes wrote:
MLG system works fine. So far, 3 out of 3 (the 4th being TLO, yet to play vs DeMuslim) 6th place in pool beat their opponent coming from the open loser's bracket. Yes, maybe those players have had a lot of games to play but still, I think it proves that the system isn't as bad as some people portray it.

Edit: ok so while I was typing that Demuslim won game 1, but still :D


You just described the exact reason why people think MLG's system sucks.


People from open bracket can't beat people from pool play, what's the problem?


Yeah except champs like iNControl losing to a random like TriMaster.

And 1 series means nothing, DeMuslim is 100x better than iNControl, Machine, Haypro, TLO. Those four players really REALLY need to get kicked from pool play. It's getting pathetic.

Edit. Moonan is a maybe. Although he'd probably always make it through open bracket.


haypro is actually really good.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
August 28 2011 03:39 GMT
#10488
On August 28 2011 12:27 mark05 wrote:
im a bit confused and just came back home .is there any other games going to be streamed tonight?


No maaybe redif ?
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
August 28 2011 03:39 GMT
#10489
On August 28 2011 12:30 Samim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:27 Ghoststrikes wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:26 red4ce wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:23 Ghoststrikes wrote:
MLG system works fine. So far, 3 out of 3 (the 4th being TLO, yet to play vs DeMuslim) 6th place in pool beat their opponent coming from the open loser's bracket. Yes, maybe those players have had a lot of games to play but still, I think it proves that the system isn't as bad as some people portray it.

Edit: ok so while I was typing that Demuslim won game 1, but still :D


You just described the exact reason why people think MLG's system sucks.


People from open bracket can't beat people from pool play, what's the problem?


Yeah except champs like iNControl losing to a random like TriMaster.

And 1 series means nothing, DeMuslim is 100x better than iNControl, Machine, Haypro, TLO. Those four players really REALLY need to get kicked from pool play. It's getting pathetic.

Edit. Moonan is a maybe. Although he'd probably always make it through open bracket.

Haypro has placed top 12 & 16 the two latest mlg's so he deserves his spot.
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
August 28 2011 03:40 GMT
#10490
On August 28 2011 12:25 Ghoststrikes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:24 Kamikazess wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:23 karis wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:22 Kamikazess wrote:
DRG' record is 8-3 and Select's 8-2, right? How is this a tie?


match record. + drg won head to head.


But Select has lost less games. So, he is ahead, not?


No. DRG beat him, as simple as that. It's like that in every sport.


In which sports is it that way? Not in any I follow at least..
Is it perhaps an NA vs EU-thing?
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
August 28 2011 03:40 GMT
#10491
On August 28 2011 12:39 Sanchonator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:30 Samim wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:27 Ghoststrikes wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:26 red4ce wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:23 Ghoststrikes wrote:
MLG system works fine. So far, 3 out of 3 (the 4th being TLO, yet to play vs DeMuslim) 6th place in pool beat their opponent coming from the open loser's bracket. Yes, maybe those players have had a lot of games to play but still, I think it proves that the system isn't as bad as some people portray it.

Edit: ok so while I was typing that Demuslim won game 1, but still :D


You just described the exact reason why people think MLG's system sucks.


People from open bracket can't beat people from pool play, what's the problem?


Yeah except champs like iNControl losing to a random like TriMaster.

And 1 series means nothing, DeMuslim is 100x better than iNControl, Machine, Haypro, TLO. Those four players really REALLY need to get kicked from pool play. It's getting pathetic.

Edit. Moonan is a maybe. Although he'd probably always make it through open bracket.


haypro is actually really good.


Well i dunno about really good, that's pushing it a bit. But he's decent certainly. If he had better macro he'd probably be pretty good.
tylermakesmusic
Profile Joined April 2011
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 03:41:00
August 28 2011 03:40 GMT
#10492
EG with 6 players in the Top 24. o_0
omnia vincit amor: et nos cedamus amori.
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
August 28 2011 03:40 GMT
#10493
On August 28 2011 12:37 darkest44 wrote:
"DeMuslim finishes the night with six straight TvT wins. He takes the CLR2 series with TLO 2-0. See you all tomorrow!" whoot


I think it's 5 because the extended series was 2-1 to start, but still very good for him non the less, hopefully he can keep the momentum going tomorrow.
Ryler
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovenia370 Posts
August 28 2011 03:41 GMT
#10494
On August 28 2011 12:40 Devise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:37 darkest44 wrote:
"DeMuslim finishes the night with six straight TvT wins. He takes the CLR2 series with TLO 2-0. See you all tomorrow!" whoot


I think it's 5 because the extended series was 2-1 to start, but still very good for him non the less, hopefully he can keep the momentum going tomorrow.


KR won 2-0
"Use the force Harry." -Gandalf
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
August 28 2011 03:41 GMT
#10495
On August 28 2011 12:40 Devise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:37 darkest44 wrote:
"DeMuslim finishes the night with six straight TvT wins. He takes the CLR2 series with TLO 2-0. See you all tomorrow!" whoot


I think it's 5 because the extended series was 2-1 to start, but still very good for him non the less, hopefully he can keep the momentum going tomorrow.


it was 2-0
Kamikazess
Profile Joined February 2011
Brazil400 Posts
August 28 2011 03:41 GMT
#10496
On August 28 2011 12:37 tylermakesmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Well, it really doesn't make sense. They're both at 4-1, but Select with 8-2 and DRG with 8-3. So it couldn't be a tie. I think it's pretty silly the fact that individual matches doesn't make a difference. But it's the system...

How the hell doesn't it make sense? DRG beat Select. It's as simple as that. Why can't people grasp the concept of head to head victories?


It would make perfect sense if both players records' were exactly the same. If Select lost one individual match less than DRG, he should be ahead. But I already know that it's the way MLG works. I think it is wrong, but it's the way it is.
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
August 28 2011 03:41 GMT
#10497
On August 28 2011 12:40 Devise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:37 darkest44 wrote:
"DeMuslim finishes the night with six straight TvT wins. He takes the CLR2 series with TLO 2-0. See you all tomorrow!" whoot


I think it's 5 because the extended series was 2-1 to start, but still very good for him non the less, hopefully he can keep the momentum going tomorrow.


2-0 to start
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TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
August 28 2011 03:41 GMT
#10498
On August 28 2011 12:40 KingPaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:25 Ghoststrikes wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:24 Kamikazess wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:23 karis wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:22 Kamikazess wrote:
DRG' record is 8-3 and Select's 8-2, right? How is this a tie?


match record. + drg won head to head.


But Select has lost less games. So, he is ahead, not?


No. DRG beat him, as simple as that. It's like that in every sport.


In which sports is it that way? Not in any I follow at least..
Is it perhaps an NA vs EU-thing?


Was thinking and mentioned that earlier. For example in football it goes on goals scored and goals against first before head to head records in England. Which is kinda the same as games won/lost in SC2.
Sanchonator
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia490 Posts
August 28 2011 03:41 GMT
#10499
On August 28 2011 12:40 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 12:39 Sanchonator wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:30 Samim wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:27 Ghoststrikes wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:26 red4ce wrote:
On August 28 2011 12:23 Ghoststrikes wrote:
MLG system works fine. So far, 3 out of 3 (the 4th being TLO, yet to play vs DeMuslim) 6th place in pool beat their opponent coming from the open loser's bracket. Yes, maybe those players have had a lot of games to play but still, I think it proves that the system isn't as bad as some people portray it.

Edit: ok so while I was typing that Demuslim won game 1, but still :D


You just described the exact reason why people think MLG's system sucks.


People from open bracket can't beat people from pool play, what's the problem?


Yeah except champs like iNControl losing to a random like TriMaster.

And 1 series means nothing, DeMuslim is 100x better than iNControl, Machine, Haypro, TLO. Those four players really REALLY need to get kicked from pool play. It's getting pathetic.

Edit. Moonan is a maybe. Although he'd probably always make it through open bracket.


haypro is actually really good.


Well i dunno about really good, that's pushing it a bit. But he's decent certainly. If he had better macro he'd probably be pretty good.


fair enough, tho he is better than people give him credit for
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
August 28 2011 03:42 GMT
#10500
On August 28 2011 12:40 tylermakesmusic wrote:
EG with 7 players in the Top 24. o_0


Wow...that is very impressive, nice to see. Also glad Demulism is making a good run.
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