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On August 28 2011 12:45 Kamikazess wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:42 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:41 Kamikazess wrote:On August 28 2011 12:37 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Well, it really doesn't make sense. They're both at 4-1, but Select with 8-2 and DRG with 8-3. So it couldn't be a tie. I think it's pretty silly the fact that individual matches doesn't make a difference. But it's the system... How the hell doesn't it make sense? DRG beat Select. It's as simple as that. Why can't people grasp the concept of head to head victories? It would make perfect sense if both players records' were exactly the same. If Select lost one individual match less than DRG, he should be ahead. But I already know that it's the way MLG works. I think it is wrong, but it's the way it is. He didn't lose one less individual match. He lost one less game. One game does not equal one match. Alright. Change the word "match" for the world "game", and my post will still have the same sense. Select lost one less game, so he should be ahead. That's the point to keep track of matches and games, in the player record.
So you're placing more emphasis on games where the whole point of a tournament is how many matches you win. I don't understand your logic and you obviously disagree with MLG's so I'm just gonna stop here.
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On August 28 2011 12:45 Kamikazess wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:42 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:41 Kamikazess wrote:On August 28 2011 12:37 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Well, it really doesn't make sense. They're both at 4-1, but Select with 8-2 and DRG with 8-3. So it couldn't be a tie. I think it's pretty silly the fact that individual matches doesn't make a difference. But it's the system... How the hell doesn't it make sense? DRG beat Select. It's as simple as that. Why can't people grasp the concept of head to head victories? It would make perfect sense if both players records' were exactly the same. If Select lost one individual match less than DRG, he should be ahead. But I already know that it's the way MLG works. I think it is wrong, but it's the way it is. He didn't lose one less individual match. He lost one less game. One game does not equal one match. Alright. Change the word "match" for the world "game", and my post will still have the same sense. Select lost one less game, so he should be ahead. That's the point to keep track of matches and games, in the player record.
No. They track matches, person with highest number of matches wins the group, followed by head to head records if tied(DRG > Select), followed -games- record, followed by seeding(the huk,nani,rain tie) .....
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On August 28 2011 12:46 TheHova wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:44 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:42 icarly wrote:On August 28 2011 12:40 tylermakesmusic wrote:
EG with 6 players in the Top 24. o_0 idra huk incontrol machine were given their spots from pool play. Actually no. Idra, Huk and Machine earned top 24 with how they played in pool play. Incontrol and Demuslim both had to win extra games to get top 24. I understand you're trying to bitch about MLG's pool play system, but honestly shut up. Lol. Extra games? They had to win 1 game to get into the Top24. Meanwhile open bracket players have to maul their way through tons.
Demuslim actually made it through the Open Bracket. Nice try though.
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On August 28 2011 12:47 Toxi78 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:44 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:42 icarly wrote:On August 28 2011 12:40 tylermakesmusic wrote:
EG with 6 players in the Top 24. o_0 idra huk incontrol machine were given their spots from pool play. Actually no. Idra, Huk and Machine earned top 24 with how they played in pool play. Incontrol and Demuslim both had to win extra games to get top 24. I understand you're trying to bitch about MLG's pool play system, but honestly shut up. not only did you not follow the tournament at all, but you also do not understand how the system works, and you even insult someone that states the truth? does it get worse.
They weren't 'given' their spots so he is not stating the truth.
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omg DRG looking good to take code S spot :D
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On August 28 2011 12:46 KingPaddy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:44 wats0n wrote:On August 28 2011 12:41 Kamikazess wrote:On August 28 2011 12:37 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Well, it really doesn't make sense. They're both at 4-1, but Select with 8-2 and DRG with 8-3. So it couldn't be a tie. I think it's pretty silly the fact that individual matches doesn't make a difference. But it's the system... How the hell doesn't it make sense? DRG beat Select. It's as simple as that. Why can't people grasp the concept of head to head victories? It would make perfect sense if both players records' were exactly the same. If Select lost one individual match less than DRG, he should be ahead. But I already know that it's the way MLG works. I think it is wrong, but it's the way it is. The first tiebreaker is head to head. Considering you can lose a single map easily to the worst player in the pool it would be silly to make the first tiebreaker map results. It's correct the way it is. DRG beat Select so he won the tiebreaker. But you can easily be the overall better player, but have one bad matchup.. So in my opinion the overall performance should count more than the score of one single match.
The overall performance does count. Won loss record decides placement.
Map results is not a fair measure of overall skill. It's skewed by cheese, random spawns, and map choices. As somebody already said, because Select won a match 2-0 he should not get the tiebreaker because DRG won that match 2-1 and beat Select head to head.
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On August 28 2011 12:49 Mycl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:47 Toxi78 wrote:On August 28 2011 12:44 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:42 icarly wrote:On August 28 2011 12:40 tylermakesmusic wrote:
EG with 6 players in the Top 24. o_0 idra huk incontrol machine were given their spots from pool play. Actually no. Idra, Huk and Machine earned top 24 with how they played in pool play. Incontrol and Demuslim both had to win extra games to get top 24. I understand you're trying to bitch about MLG's pool play system, but honestly shut up. not only did you not follow the tournament at all, but you also do not understand how the system works, and you even insult someone that states the truth? does it get worse. They weren't 'given' their spots so he is not stating the truth.
Idra, huk, incontrol and machine all earned their spots based on how well they've done in past MLG's, thus earning.
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well nobody cant argue machine and incontrol didnt deserve his spots on pool play..:S
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On August 28 2011 12:46 KingPaddy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:44 wats0n wrote:On August 28 2011 12:41 Kamikazess wrote:On August 28 2011 12:37 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Well, it really doesn't make sense. They're both at 4-1, but Select with 8-2 and DRG with 8-3. So it couldn't be a tie. I think it's pretty silly the fact that individual matches doesn't make a difference. But it's the system... How the hell doesn't it make sense? DRG beat Select. It's as simple as that. Why can't people grasp the concept of head to head victories? It would make perfect sense if both players records' were exactly the same. If Select lost one individual match less than DRG, he should be ahead. But I already know that it's the way MLG works. I think it is wrong, but it's the way it is. The first tiebreaker is head to head. Considering you can lose a single map easily to the worst player in the pool it would be silly to make the first tiebreaker map results. It's correct the way it is. DRG beat Select so he won the tiebreaker. But you can easily be the overall better player, but have one bad matchup.. So in my opinion the overall performance should count more than the score of one single match.
You really think the one more loss drg had is more weighted, even though he won the series, than a head to head match up?
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On August 28 2011 12:47 Toxi78 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:44 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:42 icarly wrote:On August 28 2011 12:40 tylermakesmusic wrote:
EG with 6 players in the Top 24. o_0 idra huk incontrol machine were given their spots from pool play. Actually no. Idra, Huk and Machine earned top 24 with how they played in pool play. Incontrol and Demuslim both had to win extra games to get top 24. I understand you're trying to bitch about MLG's pool play system, but honestly shut up. not only did you not follow the tournament at all, but you also do not understand how the system works, and you even insult someone that states the truth? does it get worse.
Actually I followed the whole tournament and I fully understand how the system works. My point was if you get 6th in pool play, you are not guaranteed top 24. Kinda like what happened to Incontrol. Yes, Idra, Huk and Machine got top 24 easier than most because they are in pool play, but they are in pool play for a reason. They have past results. I think you are the one that doesn't understand the system. Does it get any worse?
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Reign - bringing the pain.
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On August 28 2011 12:48 tylermakesmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:46 TheHova wrote:On August 28 2011 12:44 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:42 icarly wrote:On August 28 2011 12:40 tylermakesmusic wrote:
EG with 6 players in the Top 24. o_0 idra huk incontrol machine were given their spots from pool play. Actually no. Idra, Huk and Machine earned top 24 with how they played in pool play. Incontrol and Demuslim both had to win extra games to get top 24. I understand you're trying to bitch about MLG's pool play system, but honestly shut up. Lol. Extra games? They had to win 1 game to get into the Top24. Meanwhile open bracket players have to maul their way through tons. Demuslim actually made it through the Open Bracket. Nice try though.
I'm talking about the other players that were in the pool play, that's pretty obvious. Jesus christ, but read what you want and think it's me bashing EG when it's just a simple fact.
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On August 28 2011 12:49 Mycl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:47 Toxi78 wrote:On August 28 2011 12:44 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:42 icarly wrote:On August 28 2011 12:40 tylermakesmusic wrote:
EG with 6 players in the Top 24. o_0 idra huk incontrol machine were given their spots from pool play. Actually no. Idra, Huk and Machine earned top 24 with how they played in pool play. Incontrol and Demuslim both had to win extra games to get top 24. I understand you're trying to bitch about MLG's pool play system, but honestly shut up. not only did you not follow the tournament at all, but you also do not understand how the system works, and you even insult someone that states the truth? does it get worse. They weren't 'given' their spots so he is not stating the truth.
They were pretty much "given" their spots considering the state of everybody's playing ability today. iNcontroL was 0-10 in his group despite leaving NASL months ago to concentrate fulltime on "showing the Koreans how good NA pros were" (paraphrase). He managed to scrape into the top 24 by beating Drewbie in the LB.
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Damn, poor hero, same record as slush in pool and he beat slush 2-0 and slush got placed 2 rounds further into the bracket than him, not really mlgs fault i guess, 3 way tiebreakers just suck no matter what :-/
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On August 28 2011 12:45 Kamikazess wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:42 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:41 Kamikazess wrote:On August 28 2011 12:37 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Well, it really doesn't make sense. They're both at 4-1, but Select with 8-2 and DRG with 8-3. So it couldn't be a tie. I think it's pretty silly the fact that individual matches doesn't make a difference. But it's the system... How the hell doesn't it make sense? DRG beat Select. It's as simple as that. Why can't people grasp the concept of head to head victories? It would make perfect sense if both players records' were exactly the same. If Select lost one individual match less than DRG, he should be ahead. But I already know that it's the way MLG works. I think it is wrong, but it's the way it is. He didn't lose one less individual match. He lost one less game. One game does not equal one match. Alright. Change the word "match" for the world "game", and my post will still have the same sense. Select lost one less game, so he should be ahead. That's the point to keep track of matches and games, in the player record.
You're from Brazil so you must know something about football so look at it like this
Look at the 8-2 vs 8-3 as goal differential in group stages of any football tourney. So if both teams are equal on points which team do you give the win too? You go by results from their match/es against eachother. If they're equal there it goes to goal differential and there you have it.
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On August 28 2011 12:51 TheHova wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:48 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:46 TheHova wrote:On August 28 2011 12:44 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:42 icarly wrote:On August 28 2011 12:40 tylermakesmusic wrote:
EG with 6 players in the Top 24. o_0 idra huk incontrol machine were given their spots from pool play. Actually no. Idra, Huk and Machine earned top 24 with how they played in pool play. Incontrol and Demuslim both had to win extra games to get top 24. I understand you're trying to bitch about MLG's pool play system, but honestly shut up. Lol. Extra games? They had to win 1 game to get into the Top24. Meanwhile open bracket players have to maul their way through tons. Demuslim actually made it through the Open Bracket. Nice try though. I'm talking about the other players that were in the pool play, that's pretty obvious. Jesus christ, but read what you want and think it's me bashing EG when it's just a simple fact.
I don't think you're EG bashing, I just think you missed the point of my post.
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On August 28 2011 12:48 tylermakesmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:45 Kamikazess wrote:On August 28 2011 12:42 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:41 Kamikazess wrote:On August 28 2011 12:37 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Well, it really doesn't make sense. They're both at 4-1, but Select with 8-2 and DRG with 8-3. So it couldn't be a tie. I think it's pretty silly the fact that individual matches doesn't make a difference. But it's the system... How the hell doesn't it make sense? DRG beat Select. It's as simple as that. Why can't people grasp the concept of head to head victories? It would make perfect sense if both players records' were exactly the same. If Select lost one individual match less than DRG, he should be ahead. But I already know that it's the way MLG works. I think it is wrong, but it's the way it is. He didn't lose one less individual match. He lost one less game. One game does not equal one match. Alright. Change the word "match" for the world "game", and my post will still have the same sense. Select lost one less game, so he should be ahead. That's the point to keep track of matches and games, in the player record. So you're placing more emphasis on games where the whole point of a tournament is how many matches you win. I don't understand your logic and you obviously disagree with MLG's so I'm just gonna stop here.
Actually, no, I'm not doing it. The most important record should always be matches. But in a direct sense, to win a Bo3 match, I have to win 2 games. So, I'm only saying that it makes more sense to games count to anything. But it's only a kind of philosophical discussion, not a "right or wrong" one. =)
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again, GSL for example have good system - people who don't prepared well, can get out of code s every season. People in MLG can go 0-10 and still be here next tourney. pf
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On August 28 2011 12:50 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 12:46 KingPaddy wrote:On August 28 2011 12:44 wats0n wrote:On August 28 2011 12:41 Kamikazess wrote:On August 28 2011 12:37 tylermakesmusic wrote:On August 28 2011 12:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Well, it really doesn't make sense. They're both at 4-1, but Select with 8-2 and DRG with 8-3. So it couldn't be a tie. I think it's pretty silly the fact that individual matches doesn't make a difference. But it's the system... How the hell doesn't it make sense? DRG beat Select. It's as simple as that. Why can't people grasp the concept of head to head victories? It would make perfect sense if both players records' were exactly the same. If Select lost one individual match less than DRG, he should be ahead. But I already know that it's the way MLG works. I think it is wrong, but it's the way it is. The first tiebreaker is head to head. Considering you can lose a single map easily to the worst player in the pool it would be silly to make the first tiebreaker map results. It's correct the way it is. DRG beat Select so he won the tiebreaker. But you can easily be the overall better player, but have one bad matchup.. So in my opinion the overall performance should count more than the score of one single match. You really think the one more loss drg had is more weighted, even though he won the series, than a head to head match up?
Exactly, because in group play it's not about the single matchup, but about the overall performance. The player who performed best in all the games they played should be first
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Naniwa/ MMA/ MVP all won MLG in their first MLG appearance. Looks like the same will happen this time around with Coca,PuMa, Bobmer being first timers. Should be interesting though.
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