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On August 21 2011 22:07 sleepingdog wrote: to explain why Mana went archons instead of colossi:
the problem with a late colossus-switch is that you just can't get high numbers fast - if you switch to archons you can warp in 1-2 rounds of only HTs and have a high archon-number pretty fast He should have done it earlier though, he had plenty of time.
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Would a colo ball have been better for either of the players at any point?
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On August 21 2011 22:07 ellirc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 22:07 sleepingdog wrote: to explain why Mana went archons instead of colossi:
the problem with a late colossus-switch is that you just can't get high numbers fast - if you switch to archons you can warp in 1-2 rounds of only HTs and have a high archon-number pretty fast He should have done it earlier though, he had plenty of time.
yes I felt like he wasted his lead with blinking around in sockes base too often
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I really like Mr Bitter as a caster.
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Really nice play, socke calmly holds off the aggression, takes a slight risk by expanding faster, uses that slight econ bonus to hit a +3 timing attack push and flattens mana before he can get his own 3rd up (forced cancel) and pushes into his natural with the final warp in of reinforcements.
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why must the use Owned3D for today ..... lags my stream Justin TV was fine =(
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Meh, TDA= most likely 4Gate vs 4Gate incoming
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On August 21 2011 22:08 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 22:07 ellirc wrote:On August 21 2011 22:07 sleepingdog wrote: to explain why Mana went archons instead of colossi:
the problem with a late colossus-switch is that you just can't get high numbers fast - if you switch to archons you can warp in 1-2 rounds of only HTs and have a high archon-number pretty fast He should have done it earlier though, he had plenty of time. yes I felt like he wasted his lead with blinking around in sockes base too often Mhm, he got a bit greedy with doing it three times. Anyways a good game 
G2: Tal Darim. Mana upper right, Socke lower right. 4gate incoming.
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On August 21 2011 22:08 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 22:07 ellirc wrote:On August 21 2011 22:07 sleepingdog wrote: to explain why Mana went archons instead of colossi:
the problem with a late colossus-switch is that you just can't get high numbers fast - if you switch to archons you can warp in 1-2 rounds of only HTs and have a high archon-number pretty fast He should have done it earlier though, he had plenty of time. yes I felt like he wasted his lead with blinking around in sockes base too often
The blinking into Socke's base was fine but he kept adding more stalkers against someone who was going for a chargelot heavy archon composition. You dont need tht many stalkers to harass his base, he should done tht while adding zealots and archons at home.
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On August 21 2011 22:10 Nightkaira wrote: why must the use Owned3D for today ..... lags my stream Justin TV was fine =(
Was the other way aroung for me. I had to lower the justin quality from 720+ to 480p to have it runnung smoothly. own3d is perfectly fine for me though.
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Surprise - both going for 4Gate
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Does Rotterdam not know wat a 3 stalker rush is?
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On August 21 2011 22:03 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 21:49 poorcloud wrote: 3 protoss 1 terran to allay the worries of all the "protoss is weak" crowd well bringing the best protoss in the world, one of the best korean terrans, a euro protoss who didn't have to play vs zerg and a new protoss prodigy who drastically improved his pvz to defeat Stephano and Moonglade isn't a indicator that protoss is not weak at the moment.... If Nestea or Losira were invited I can guarantee you that it's zvx final Also the only participating Zerg with good ZvP(Nerchio) was eliminated by a terran , and European terrans have been struggling in TvP for a long time. Does pretty much explain the results.
If there was Ret, Morrow present it is highly likely there would be less non-Korean protosses at the top.
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Socke going for the offense and gets denied by Mana's superior Stalker count, Socke adding Probes now and a TC
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Mana 22 probes, Socke 26. Socke mining frow two gas, Mana only from the one.
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On August 21 2011 22:14 blooblooblahblah wrote: Does Rotterdam not know wat a 3 stalker rush is? Considering he is a protoss of some decent skill, I think yes, yes he does.
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On August 21 2011 22:07 ellirc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 22:07 sleepingdog wrote: to explain why Mana went archons instead of colossi:
the problem with a late colossus-switch is that you just can't get high numbers fast - if you switch to archons you can warp in 1-2 rounds of only HTs and have a high archon-number pretty fast He should have done it earlier though, he had plenty of time. Frankly lately in all PvPs I have seen the guy with archons won over the guy with collossi/immortals, but it is maybe just selection bias.
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Socke could've won that game had he controlled and 4gated properly ...
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Wow Socke really botched that defense.
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