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ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
August 21 2011 13:07 GMT
#521
On August 21 2011 22:07 sleepingdog wrote:
to explain why Mana went archons instead of colossi:

the problem with a late colossus-switch is that you just can't get high numbers fast - if you switch to archons you can warp in 1-2 rounds of only HTs and have a high archon-number pretty fast

He should have done it earlier though, he had plenty of time.
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
August 21 2011 13:08 GMT
#522
Would a colo ball have been better for either of the players at any point?
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 21 2011 13:08 GMT
#523
On August 21 2011 22:07 ellirc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:07 sleepingdog wrote:
to explain why Mana went archons instead of colossi:

the problem with a late colossus-switch is that you just can't get high numbers fast - if you switch to archons you can warp in 1-2 rounds of only HTs and have a high archon-number pretty fast

He should have done it earlier though, he had plenty of time.


yes I felt like he wasted his lead with blinking around in sockes base too often
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
August 21 2011 13:09 GMT
#524
I really like Mr Bitter as a caster.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
August 21 2011 13:09 GMT
#525
Really nice play, socke calmly holds off the aggression, takes a slight risk by expanding faster, uses that slight econ bonus to hit a +3 timing attack push and flattens mana before he can get his own 3rd up (forced cancel) and pushes into his natural with the final warp in of reinforcements.
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
Nightkaira
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore412 Posts
August 21 2011 13:10 GMT
#526
why must the use Owned3D for today ..... lags my stream Justin TV was fine =(
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 21 2011 13:10 GMT
#527
Meh, TDA= most likely 4Gate vs 4Gate incoming
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 21 2011 13:10 GMT
#528
On August 21 2011 22:10 Nightkaira wrote:
why must the use Owned3D for today ..... lags my stream Justin TV was fine =(

http://de.twitch.tv/esltv_event2_hd

They use both :p
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
August 21 2011 13:11 GMT
#529
On August 21 2011 22:08 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:07 ellirc wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:07 sleepingdog wrote:
to explain why Mana went archons instead of colossi:

the problem with a late colossus-switch is that you just can't get high numbers fast - if you switch to archons you can warp in 1-2 rounds of only HTs and have a high archon-number pretty fast

He should have done it earlier though, he had plenty of time.


yes I felt like he wasted his lead with blinking around in sockes base too often

Mhm, he got a bit greedy with doing it three times. Anyways a good game

G2: Tal Darim. Mana upper right, Socke lower right. 4gate incoming.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
August 21 2011 13:11 GMT
#530
On August 21 2011 22:08 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:07 ellirc wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:07 sleepingdog wrote:
to explain why Mana went archons instead of colossi:

the problem with a late colossus-switch is that you just can't get high numbers fast - if you switch to archons you can warp in 1-2 rounds of only HTs and have a high archon-number pretty fast

He should have done it earlier though, he had plenty of time.


yes I felt like he wasted his lead with blinking around in sockes base too often


The blinking into Socke's base was fine but he kept adding more stalkers against someone who was going for a chargelot heavy archon composition. You dont need tht many stalkers to harass his base, he should done tht while adding zealots and archons at home.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
morbvs
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 13:12:12
August 21 2011 13:11 GMT
#531
On August 21 2011 22:10 Nightkaira wrote:
why must the use Owned3D for today ..... lags my stream Justin TV was fine =(


Was the other way aroung for me. I had to lower the justin quality from 720+ to 480p to have it runnung smoothly. own3d is perfectly fine for me though.
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 21 2011 13:13 GMT
#532
Surprise - both going for 4Gate
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
August 21 2011 13:14 GMT
#533
Does Rotterdam not know wat a 3 stalker rush is?
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
August 21 2011 13:14 GMT
#534
On August 21 2011 22:03 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 21:49 poorcloud wrote:
3 protoss 1 terran to allay the worries of all the "protoss is weak" crowd


well bringing the best protoss in the world, one of the best korean terrans, a euro protoss who didn't have to play vs zerg and a new protoss prodigy who drastically improved his pvz to defeat Stephano and Moonglade isn't a indicator that protoss is not weak at the moment....
If Nestea or Losira were invited I can guarantee you that it's zvx final

Also the only participating Zerg with good ZvP(Nerchio) was eliminated by a terran , and European terrans have been struggling in TvP for a long time. Does pretty much explain the results.

If there was Ret, Morrow present it is highly likely there would be less non-Korean protosses at the top.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 21 2011 13:15 GMT
#535
Socke going for the offense and gets denied by Mana's superior Stalker count, Socke adding Probes now and a TC
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
August 21 2011 13:15 GMT
#536
Mana 22 probes, Socke 26. Socke mining frow two gas, Mana only from the one.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
August 21 2011 13:15 GMT
#537
On August 21 2011 22:14 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Does Rotterdam not know wat a 3 stalker rush is?

Considering he is a protoss of some decent skill, I think yes, yes he does.
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
August 21 2011 13:16 GMT
#538
On August 21 2011 22:07 ellirc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:07 sleepingdog wrote:
to explain why Mana went archons instead of colossi:

the problem with a late colossus-switch is that you just can't get high numbers fast - if you switch to archons you can warp in 1-2 rounds of only HTs and have a high archon-number pretty fast

He should have done it earlier though, he had plenty of time.

Frankly lately in all PvPs I have seen the guy with archons won over the guy with collossi/immortals, but it is maybe just selection bias.
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
August 21 2011 13:16 GMT
#539
Socke could've won that game had he controlled and 4gated properly ...
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 21 2011 13:17 GMT
#540
Wow Socke really botched that defense.
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