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On August 21 2011 19:55 Corrik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 19:52 billyX333 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:47 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:43 billyX333 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:31 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:29 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:On August 21 2011 19:18 Finrod1 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:14 billyX333 wrote:
The crowd killed it for me. I don't understand why IEM/MLG don't adopt an anti-booing policy and a warning then ban for repeat offenders. Most of these gamers are young 20 year olds and no body wants to feel hated by an entire crowd of people. Its hard enough to talk and get in front of a huge crowd so I can't even imagine what its like performing in front of a crowd that wants you to fail.
I'm a fan of mr. bitter's casting but he should seriously try to get the crowd to cheer for the unfavored players. Again, they are 20 year olds who play this game because its their passion and mr. bitter essentially lead the crowd on so they could feel proud of their bias and obnoxiously boo or ignore the winner.
Well the anti-stuff in general is no problem for me as long it isn't something like laser pointers. The line get's crossed clearly if they are just booing someone out because he is from country x. As a football example: If my local team play's somewhere else there are 40k people chanting and booing against my hometeam. That is a part of sports but you should do it because you don't like a player and not his nationality. Team sports and individual sports are different though. Team sports, such as soccer, basketball, football, booing is expected for guest team. But for individual sports, usually there is not much booing at all, it will just get too personal. And also, these kids are only 20 years old, and they are not making millions like Kobe. I don't buy that reasoning. If you want to be center stage, you take the jeers with the cheers. Just as long as they don't cross the line. elaborate on why you don't buy that reasoning? Booing in individual sports is rare. Booing a golfer is generally unheard of unless he is getting media coverage for bad behavior Picking and choosing examples. So Duke fans ;chanting overrated while Harrison Barnes shoots free throws isn't personal because he is on a team? Or there is reasoning behind it? Because a kid "not making millions" who is "twenty something" played for a rival school?
There is nothing wrong with it. It's normal. you are still obviously missing the point No... I got your point. But, it's not correct. There is booing in every single college sport in America whether individual or not individual sports. These are all young adults who do not make money. Your point just is not correct. There is nothing wrong with booing. In fact, why don't you read articles about players saying they love being booed because then they know they are getting to the other team's fans or such. Booing isn't bad. It's taking it beyond booing, threats and acts of foul play. Professional athletes have a city where they are liked and everywhere else they are hated. They go into different cities expecting to be hated by the fans. They enjoy making their haters unhappy. I doubt a professional gamer flies into IEM cologne expecting to be hated and booed and I doubt he was thinking "I'm gonna make those haters hate me even more LOL" while still having an entire established fan base elsewhere to fall back on. Also, You continue to give examples of team sports when refuting a point about individual sports. Please, give me an individual sport where its acceptable to boo players solely because of their nationality? I can tell you didn't truly read what I wrote. And, you are changing your argument (making it more asinine in the process), to booing is okay but it's not okay over nationality.To further the ridiculousness of your argument, the fans at IEM weren't booing Puma for being Korean. They were booing him for being the favored opponent against their national German favorite. His nationality made no difference... he just wasn't Socke. End of story. Your argument is just way off point. I don't think it's worth continuing to discuss.
wtf are you talking about? I never said it was OKAY to boo in individual sports. You are still getting the argument twisted despite 3 attempts
I said booing is accepted in team sports. See the team part
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On August 21 2011 20:00 zul wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 19:58 Steamroller wrote:
Worst game and commentary ever iem main stage? lol watching DotA 2 for the time being 
Same here, never played any of these kind of games but DotA2 are much more fun to watch then LoL.
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Players being disturbed by a laser pointer? If I was playing a game and some laser pointer made me miss a critical force field, or some similiar micro decision, I would most likely make a GG with Idra-timing and just go scream at laser pointers in the audience.
Shameful.
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On August 21 2011 20:00 befek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 19:56 Skilledblob wrote:On August 21 2011 19:55 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:52 billyX333 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:47 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:43 billyX333 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:31 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:29 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:On August 21 2011 19:18 Finrod1 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:14 billyX333 wrote:
The crowd killed it for me. I don't understand why IEM/MLG don't adopt an anti-booing policy and a warning then ban for repeat offenders. Most of these gamers are young 20 year olds and no body wants to feel hated by an entire crowd of people. Its hard enough to talk and get in front of a huge crowd so I can't even imagine what its like performing in front of a crowd that wants you to fail.
I'm a fan of mr. bitter's casting but he should seriously try to get the crowd to cheer for the unfavored players. Again, they are 20 year olds who play this game because its their passion and mr. bitter essentially lead the crowd on so they could feel proud of their bias and obnoxiously boo or ignore the winner.
Well the anti-stuff in general is no problem for me as long it isn't something like laser pointers. The line get's crossed clearly if they are just booing someone out because he is from country x. As a football example: If my local team play's somewhere else there are 40k people chanting and booing against my hometeam. That is a part of sports but you should do it because you don't like a player and not his nationality. Team sports and individual sports are different though. Team sports, such as soccer, basketball, football, booing is expected for guest team. But for individual sports, usually there is not much booing at all, it will just get too personal. And also, these kids are only 20 years old, and they are not making millions like Kobe. I don't buy that reasoning. If you want to be center stage, you take the jeers with the cheers. Just as long as they don't cross the line. elaborate on why you don't buy that reasoning? Booing in individual sports is rare. Booing a golfer is generally unheard of unless he is getting media coverage for bad behavior Picking and choosing examples. So Duke fans ;chanting overrated while Harrison Barnes shoots free throws isn't personal because he is on a team? Or there is reasoning behind it? Because a kid "not making millions" who is "twenty something" played for a rival school?
There is nothing wrong with it. It's normal. you are still obviously missing the point No... I got your point. But, it's not correct. There is booing in every single college sport in America whether individual or not individual sports. These are all young adults who do not make money. Your point just is not correct. There is nothing wrong with booing. In fact, why don't you read articles about players saying they love being booed because then they know they are getting to the other team's fans or such. Booing isn't bad. It's taking it beyond booing, threats and acts of foul play. Professional athletes have a city where they are liked and everywhere else they are hated. They go into different cities expecting to be hated by the fans. They enjoy making their haters unhappy. I doubt a professional gamer flies into IEM cologne expecting to be hated and booed and I doubt he was thinking "I'm gonna make those haters hate me even more LOL" while still having an entire established fan base elsewhere to fall back on. Also, You continue to give examples of team sports when refuting a point about individual sports. Please, give me an individual sport where its acceptable to boo players solely because of their nationality? To further the ridiculousness of your argument, the fans at IEM weren't booing Puma for being Korean. They were booing him for being the favored opponent against their national German favorite. His nationality made no difference... he just wasn't Socke. End of story. finally someone who understands it Its still a bad thing.
I highly doubt that it impaired Pumas gameplay at all. So really this is so blown out of proportion here. I am not talking about the laser pointer because that is just plain wrong behavior and should be punished.
But really some people here sound like they think Puma is some 12 year old kid who doesnt have any confidence. That guy is a grown up man and I am sure he wants to be treated like one and not like some little princess.
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I wonder if mana is going to get booed...if not wonder why puma did....
So glad MLG is round the corner
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What is this shit game on main stage lol? And poor Joe he's trying so hard to get the other commentator to say anything at all while he has no idea what's going on on the screen :p
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How could they even point laser to him ? isnt he behind his monitor...
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On August 21 2011 20:07 Valikyr wrote:
What is this shit game on main stage lol? And poor Joe he's trying so hard to get the other commentator to say anything at all while he has no idea what's going on on the screen :p
it looks like a crazy weird remake of starfox 64 -_- graphics are basically the same too 
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On August 21 2011 20:00 befek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 19:56 Skilledblob wrote:On August 21 2011 19:55 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:52 billyX333 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:47 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:43 billyX333 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:31 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:29 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:On August 21 2011 19:18 Finrod1 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:14 billyX333 wrote:
The crowd killed it for me. I don't understand why IEM/MLG don't adopt an anti-booing policy and a warning then ban for repeat offenders. Most of these gamers are young 20 year olds and no body wants to feel hated by an entire crowd of people. Its hard enough to talk and get in front of a huge crowd so I can't even imagine what its like performing in front of a crowd that wants you to fail.
I'm a fan of mr. bitter's casting but he should seriously try to get the crowd to cheer for the unfavored players. Again, they are 20 year olds who play this game because its their passion and mr. bitter essentially lead the crowd on so they could feel proud of their bias and obnoxiously boo or ignore the winner.
Well the anti-stuff in general is no problem for me as long it isn't something like laser pointers. The line get's crossed clearly if they are just booing someone out because he is from country x. As a football example: If my local team play's somewhere else there are 40k people chanting and booing against my hometeam. That is a part of sports but you should do it because you don't like a player and not his nationality. Team sports and individual sports are different though. Team sports, such as soccer, basketball, football, booing is expected for guest team. But for individual sports, usually there is not much booing at all, it will just get too personal. And also, these kids are only 20 years old, and they are not making millions like Kobe. I don't buy that reasoning. If you want to be center stage, you take the jeers with the cheers. Just as long as they don't cross the line. elaborate on why you don't buy that reasoning? Booing in individual sports is rare. Booing a golfer is generally unheard of unless he is getting media coverage for bad behavior Picking and choosing examples. So Duke fans ;chanting overrated while Harrison Barnes shoots free throws isn't personal because he is on a team? Or there is reasoning behind it? Because a kid "not making millions" who is "twenty something" played for a rival school?
There is nothing wrong with it. It's normal. you are still obviously missing the point No... I got your point. But, it's not correct. There is booing in every single college sport in America whether individual or not individual sports. These are all young adults who do not make money. Your point just is not correct. There is nothing wrong with booing. In fact, why don't you read articles about players saying they love being booed because then they know they are getting to the other team's fans or such. Booing isn't bad. It's taking it beyond booing, threats and acts of foul play. Professional athletes have a city where they are liked and everywhere else they are hated. They go into different cities expecting to be hated by the fans. They enjoy making their haters unhappy. I doubt a professional gamer flies into IEM cologne expecting to be hated and booed and I doubt he was thinking "I'm gonna make those haters hate me even more LOL" while still having an entire established fan base elsewhere to fall back on. Also, You continue to give examples of team sports when refuting a point about individual sports. Please, give me an individual sport where its acceptable to boo players solely because of their nationality? To further the ridiculousness of your argument, the fans at IEM weren't booing Puma for being Korean. They were booing him for being the favored opponent against their national German favorite. His nationality made no difference... he just wasn't Socke. End of story. finally someone who understands it Its still a bad thing.
totally agree about it being bad thing. the blizzard event in poland was so godlike, fans cheering HARD for everyone, was so good. mr. bitters comment yesterday was so stupid, if you ask me that should have consequences.
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On August 21 2011 20:06 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 20:00 befek wrote:On August 21 2011 19:56 Skilledblob wrote:On August 21 2011 19:55 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:52 billyX333 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:47 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:43 billyX333 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:31 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:29 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:On August 21 2011 19:18 Finrod1 wrote:
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Well the anti-stuff in general is no problem for me as long it isn't something like laser pointers. The line get's crossed clearly if they are just booing someone out because he is from country x.
As a football example: If my local team play's somewhere else there are 40k people chanting and booing against my hometeam. That is a part of sports but you should do it because you don't like a player and not his nationality. Team sports and individual sports are different though. Team sports, such as soccer, basketball, football, booing is expected for guest team. But for individual sports, usually there is not much booing at all, it will just get too personal. And also, these kids are only 20 years old, and they are not making millions like Kobe. I don't buy that reasoning. If you want to be center stage, you take the jeers with the cheers. Just as long as they don't cross the line. elaborate on why you don't buy that reasoning? Booing in individual sports is rare. Booing a golfer is generally unheard of unless he is getting media coverage for bad behavior Picking and choosing examples. So Duke fans ;chanting overrated while Harrison Barnes shoots free throws isn't personal because he is on a team? Or there is reasoning behind it? Because a kid "not making millions" who is "twenty something" played for a rival school?
There is nothing wrong with it. It's normal. you are still obviously missing the point No... I got your point. But, it's not correct. There is booing in every single college sport in America whether individual or not individual sports. These are all young adults who do not make money. Your point just is not correct. There is nothing wrong with booing. In fact, why don't you read articles about players saying they love being booed because then they know they are getting to the other team's fans or such. Booing isn't bad. It's taking it beyond booing, threats and acts of foul play. Professional athletes have a city where they are liked and everywhere else they are hated. They go into different cities expecting to be hated by the fans. They enjoy making their haters unhappy. I doubt a professional gamer flies into IEM cologne expecting to be hated and booed and I doubt he was thinking "I'm gonna make those haters hate me even more LOL" while still having an entire established fan base elsewhere to fall back on. Also, You continue to give examples of team sports when refuting a point about individual sports. Please, give me an individual sport where its acceptable to boo players solely because of their nationality? To further the ridiculousness of your argument, the fans at IEM weren't booing Puma for being Korean. They were booing him for being the favored opponent against their national German favorite. His nationality made no difference... he just wasn't Socke. End of story. finally someone who understands it Its still a bad thing. I highly doubt that it impaired Pumas gameplay at all. So really this is so blown out of proportion here. I am not talking about the laser pointer because that is just plain wrong behavior and should be punished. But really some people here sound like they think Puma is some 12 year old kid who doesnt have any confidence. That guy is a grown up man
Doesn't matter, booing is deuche bag thing to do and if you find it fun to boo people you are an asshole that's just the plain truth.
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Omg that dota recap from last night was awesome. lol I swear he said eh is pulling scvs like twice during it. Haha.
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wow this air rivals thing is extremly boring to watch but the comod (the woman) maybe the worst caster ever ^^ explaining nothing saying nothing
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On August 21 2011 20:09 Radook wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 20:06 Skilledblob wrote:On August 21 2011 20:00 befek wrote:On August 21 2011 19:56 Skilledblob wrote:On August 21 2011 19:55 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:52 billyX333 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:47 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:43 billyX333 wrote:On August 21 2011 19:31 Corrik wrote:On August 21 2011 19:29 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
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Team sports and individual sports are different though. Team sports, such as soccer, basketball, football, booing is expected for guest team. But for individual sports, usually there is not much booing at all, it will just get too personal. And also, these kids are only 20 years old, and they are not making millions like Kobe. I don't buy that reasoning. If you want to be center stage, you take the jeers with the cheers. Just as long as they don't cross the line. elaborate on why you don't buy that reasoning? Booing in individual sports is rare. Booing a golfer is generally unheard of unless he is getting media coverage for bad behavior Picking and choosing examples. So Duke fans ;chanting overrated while Harrison Barnes shoots free throws isn't personal because he is on a team? Or there is reasoning behind it? Because a kid "not making millions" who is "twenty something" played for a rival school?
There is nothing wrong with it. It's normal. you are still obviously missing the point No... I got your point. But, it's not correct. There is booing in every single college sport in America whether individual or not individual sports. These are all young adults who do not make money. Your point just is not correct. There is nothing wrong with booing. In fact, why don't you read articles about players saying they love being booed because then they know they are getting to the other team's fans or such. Booing isn't bad. It's taking it beyond booing, threats and acts of foul play. Professional athletes have a city where they are liked and everywhere else they are hated. They go into different cities expecting to be hated by the fans. They enjoy making their haters unhappy. I doubt a professional gamer flies into IEM cologne expecting to be hated and booed and I doubt he was thinking "I'm gonna make those haters hate me even more LOL" while still having an entire established fan base elsewhere to fall back on. Also, You continue to give examples of team sports when refuting a point about individual sports. Please, give me an individual sport where its acceptable to boo players solely because of their nationality? To further the ridiculousness of your argument, the fans at IEM weren't booing Puma for being Korean. They were booing him for being the favored opponent against their national German favorite. His nationality made no difference... he just wasn't Socke. End of story. finally someone who understands it Its still a bad thing. I highly doubt that it impaired Pumas gameplay at all. So really this is so blown out of proportion here. I am not talking about the laser pointer because that is just plain wrong behavior and should be punished. But really some people here sound like they think Puma is some 12 year old kid who doesnt have any confidence. That guy is a grown up man Doesn't matter, booing is deuche bag thing to do and if you find it fun to boo people you are an asshole that's just the plain truth.
I dont boo because I just want the best player to win. I just cant understand this overblown political correctness and the stupid nazi comments which had to pop up right at the start.
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Could you hear the booing on the stream? I didn't hear it, but maybe I didn't pay enough attention.
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Hopefully(not) we get to see bo3.
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So whats going to happen? Looks like DOTA2 will still be going on at same time as SC2 Grand Finals. I guess ppl will have to pick one event to watch @ the venue!? For all of us not attending the event we are forced to watch both simultaneously.
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I feel sorry for Joe Miller, this is so awkward (main stream)
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Watching that dota2 recording, and holy shit.
Graphic looks really bad, i can't see anything.
The colors and models look atriciously bad.
I played Wc3 dota, and it looks infinitely better, the colors and models had a distinct look.
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