EPTOn August 21 2011 18:20 Xplitcit wrote:
Can anybody tell me what game is currently being played on the main stream?
Can anybody tell me what game is currently being played on the main stream?
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Please keep the following things out of this topic: -Caster/Stream/player bashing; -Imbalance/race whine; -LoL vs the world arguments; -'Omfg cant believe people aren't watching SPL finals' comments; -any other assorted offtopic negativism and arguments. Enjoy this free multiday/multigame event that has been provided to you. Share your enthusiasm for the games! Feel free to shoot me a PM or query me on IRC for any questions or comments. Have fun! ~Nyovne [special edit: Any more derailing over the fact that someone made a Germany vs Poland WW2 joke after page 21 will be met with a week ban.] | ||
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
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kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
On August 21 2011 18:56 BFCrimson wrote: Definitely rooting for Puma after hearing how he was treated by the crowd yesterday, especially the laser pointer incident =\ Can you summarize what happened? Biased german crowd? | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On August 21 2011 18:56 BFCrimson wrote: Definitely rooting for Puma after hearing how he was treated by the crowd yesterday, especially the laser pointer incident =\ Oh god.. what happened? sounds horrible though.. | ||
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BFCrimson
United States176 Posts
On August 21 2011 19:01 kusto wrote: Can you summarize what happened? Biased german crowd? On August 21 2011 06:39 chocopaw wrote: I was there today and enjoyed the good games. What I did not enjoy was the following. I'm not sure if the incident has been mentioned before. If you watched the stream you probably saw how enthusiastically Socke was greeted by the fans. The crowd got heated up by Take even more. Don't get me wrong, while I wouldn't call myself a fan I have nothing against Socke, I enjoyed quite a few games of him. But as an anti-nationalist I don't see why I should root for him because of where he was born. When Puma entered the stage there were quite a few "boo"-shouters. I don't know if they did it because of the EG "scandal", because he is Korean or simply because he was Sockes opponent and they would have done it against anyone else. When I cheered for Puma after good actions by him, showcasing his superior play, I in fact earned angry reactions. Just because I was for the wrong player. Again, this might have been anti-EG, it might have been anti-Socke's opponent, but the point is, it doesn't really matter. I don't know if the following was on the stream: In the commercial break between the second and third match Take entered the stage to announce that there had been attempts of glaring Puma with a laser pointer while the second match was going on. Take said that if they were continued they would send everyone away and let the players end the series backstage to assure the matches could be played under fair conditions. They actually had an IEM guy stand in front of Puma in the third match to prevent further incidents. Now, while I am a political person, I usually try to not let that interfere with my hobby. If people have to root for a player because of his home country I let them have their fun, as long as they don't hop on the "No Koreans at MLG!"-bandwagon or shit like that. But today a line was crossed for me when I experienced hostility because I rooted for the "wrong" player. The laser pointer act might have been executed by a stupid troll, but it might as well have been a overzealous Socke fan. My point is: I am disgusted by even the possibility of this being a trend in the esports community. What if that weren't just a few stupid individuals? I hope that every esports fan who witnesses behavious similar to what I described in this post distances him- or herself from it and feels ashamed if people not related to esports see them as representatives of our hobby and scene. Please do everything to keep esports positive, international and open to everybody, and first of all: keep it revolving around the fun! From Day 4 thread | ||
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
If no foreigner can do it, then mc is the next best thing  .Tho terran... will be hard... | ||
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
I'm a fan of mr. bitter's casting but he should seriously try to get the crowd to cheer for the unfavored players. Again, they are 20 year olds who play this game because its their passion and mr. bitter essentially lead the crowd on so they could feel proud of their bias and obnoxiously boo or ignore the winner. I'm also an anti-nationalist though. I cheer for the Japanese players in the MLB and the European players in the NBA because they are usually the underdogs living in a foreign country. | ||
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Blix
Netherlands873 Posts
The booing and laser pointer are really sad - cheering for the local guy is no problem imho. This kind of crowd behavior is quite common with all kinds of other sports, so it is a somewhat disturbing side-effect of e-sports maturing. | ||
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Finrod1
Germany3997 Posts
That is just really damn stupid. But i have to say, it is what you have to expect from german's, they have their thing with nationalism. | ||
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Finrod1
Germany3997 Posts
On August 21 2011 19:14 billyX333 wrote: The crowd killed it for me. I don't understand why IEM/MLG don't adopt an anti-booing policy and a warning then ban for repeat offenders. Most of these gamers are young 20 year olds and no body wants to feel hated by an entire crowd of people. Its hard enough to talk and get in front of a huge crowd so I can't even imagine what its like performing in front of a crowd that wants you to fail. I'm a fan of mr. bitter's casting but he should seriously try to get the crowd to cheer for the unfavored players. Again, they are 20 year olds who play this game because its their passion and mr. bitter essentially lead the crowd on so they could feel proud of their bias and obnoxiously boo or ignore the winner. Well the anti-stuff in general is no problem for me as long it isn't something like laser pointers. The line get's crossed clearly if they are just booing someone out because he is from country x. As a football example: If my local team play's somewhere else there are 40k people chanting and booing against my hometeam. That is a part of sports but you should do it because you don't like a player and not his nationality. | ||
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Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
On August 21 2011 19:18 Finrod1 wrote: Well the anti-stuff in general is no problem for me as long it isn't something like laser pointers. The line get's crossed clearly if they are just booing someone out because he is from country x. As a football example: If my local team play's somewhere else there are 40k people chanting and booing against my hometeam. That is a part of sports but you should do it because you don't like a player and not his nationality. I think the difference is that sports teams have an entire city behind them while these players don't. Most fans of these players are scattered around the world so its easy for a pro gamer to feel like he has no fans especially if no body cheers for you while the same crowd goes ape shit for anybody who is european | ||
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Serashin
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Radook
Sweden326 Posts
On August 21 2011 19:20 Kluey wrote: Can someone help me out? How many hours till the games start? :o About 2h 15min until Socke-MaNa | ||
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Bellygareth
France512 Posts
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Corrik
United States1416 Posts
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
im not sure if the laser pointer was really aimed at puma. i only saw it on the screen a few times, also after Take's warning that they would clear the hall if it happens again. i wished that idiot with the laser pointer would have been somewhere close to me | ||
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Jaedong4thOSL
United States487 Posts
On August 21 2011 19:18 Finrod1 wrote: Well the anti-stuff in general is no problem for me as long it isn't something like laser pointers. The line get's crossed clearly if they are just booing someone out because he is from country x. As a football example: If my local team play's somewhere else there are 40k people chanting and booing against my hometeam. That is a part of sports but you should do it because you don't like a player and not his nationality. Team sports and individual sports are different though. Team sports, such as soccer, basketball, football, booing is expected for guest team. But for individual sports, usually there is not much booing at all, it will just get too personal. And also, these kids are only 20 years old, and they are not making millions like Kobe. | ||
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CutthroatCollapse
Germany309 Posts
On August 21 2011 19:15 Finrod1 wrote: That is just really damn stupid. But i have to say, it is what you have to expect from german's, they have their thing with nationalism. Oh my god, what in the efing h are you talking about? The thing with germans having "their thing with nationalism". Are you implying that germans are like genetically inclined to being Nazis? Sorry if I misinterpret you here, but I want to get this clear. Germany has probably become(one of) the most liberal and tolerant countries in the world and before the world cup 2006, id say, german people were even afraid or ashamed to show any kind of patriotism(for obvious historical reasons). Ergo, very anti nationalis Sorry that this is so off topic. it's probably gonna be my only post concerning that | ||
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Corrik
United States1416 Posts
On August 21 2011 19:29 Jaedong4thOSL wrote: Team sports and individual sports are different though. Team sports, such as soccer, basketball, football, booing is expected for guest team. But for individual sports, usually there is not much booing at all, it will just get too personal. And also, these kids are only 20 years old, and they are not making millions like Kobe. I don't buy that reasoning. If you want to be center stage, you take the jeers with the cheers. Just as long as they don't cross the line. | ||
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kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
On August 21 2011 19:15 Finrod1 wrote: That is just really damn stupid. But i have to say, it is what you have to expect from german's, they have their thing with nationalism. I assume i are referring to WWII? If yes, think about it again and then see if you can improve your post. Without derailing too much, Germans' dealt with the past A LOT better than any other country involved in such things. I don't know why we're even having this discussion right now... On August 21 2011 19:18 Finrod1 wrote: Well the anti-stuff in general is no problem for me as long it isn't something like laser pointers. The line get's crossed clearly if they are just booing someone out because he is from country x. As a football example: If my local team play's somewhere else there are 40k people chanting and booing against my hometeam. That is a part of sports but you should do it because you don't like a player and not his nationality. That's contradictory, don't you think? So booing against players because they're simply not on "your team" is alright? And just because they're playing against "your team" booing is ok and seen as "part of sports"? So it should be ok to cheer against Puma if he's not Socke and playing him, no? Think twice. | ||
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