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oh sweet! liquid fighting^_^ hope we see some good games.
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Will we be seeing Huk for the ace match??
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Liquid vs EG is always a good series of matches can't wait.
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was hoping for huk 
any how nice games. Could have done with fewer mirror matchups tho.
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I think
Machine < Sheth
DeMuslim > HayprO
IdrA > Ret
Axslav < Hero
ace match maybe Idra vs Sheth?
looking forward to this 
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The lack of HuK vs HerO ace match lost GCPL 50k viewers.
Liquid 3-1
Sheth
Demuslim
Ret
HerO
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On August 21 2011 01:15 nYaLa wrote:I think Machine < Sheth DeMuslim > HayprO IdrA > Ret Axslav < Hero ace match maybe Idra vs Sheth? looking forward to this
well, ace match would hopefully be HuK vs Sheth or DeMuslim vs Sheth...or DeMuslim vs HerO
 so many good combinations
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I think this will go to the ace match.
Machine < Sheth
Demuslim > Haypro
Idra <> ret (Can really go either way)
Axslav < Hero
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So many mirrors. Will still be watching though
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I'm thinking
Machine < Sheth
DeMusliM > HayprO
IdrA < ret
Axslav < HerO.
So 3-1 in Liquid's favor  If it gets to the ace match I think it'll be DeMu v Hero/Sheth, should be a great match nonetheless.
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Glad Huk's not playing, we don't need more drama because of him taking out or losing to his former team.^^
Looks like pretty good matchups for Liquid, they're heavy favourites in Sheth vs Machine and Hero vs Axslav and about equal in the other two. I highly doubt EG can beat Liquid without Huk/Puma, but maybe they're saving Huk for ace.
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On August 21 2011 01:17 Mithriel wrote:
I think this will go to the ace match.
Machine < Sheth
Demuslim > Haypro
Idra <> ret (Can really go either way)
Axslav < Hero
agree
and if idra wins then ace idra vs hero where hero wins
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Cant wait to see Hero crush his match. So fking good
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huk is probably travelling or whatever. Anyway idra vs hero ace match would be good
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In 4 player pl style battles, EG with a full lineup seems extremely powerful. Idra, Demuslim, Puma, Huk would be a formidable force that few teams would be able to beat.
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Really keen to see Demu vs Haypro
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Ouch, not the best matchups for us at all. Way too many ZvZs and PvPs, and then HayprO vs Demu.
Both ZvZs can go either way imo.
But hopefully some of MC/Inca rubbed off on HerO's PvP.
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Predictions:
Machine < Sheth
Demuslim > Haypro
Idra < Ret
Axlav < Hero
3-1 to TL
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Machine < Sheth
DeMusliM < HayprO
IdrA < Ret
Axslav < HerO
Not expecting it to be very close
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HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On August 21 2011 01:21 Micket wrote:
In 4 player pl style battles, EG with a full lineup seems extremely powerful. Idra, Demuslim, Puma, Huk would be a formidable force that few teams would be able to beat.
At this point, only Puma is really scary out of those players, and I doubt he will play. Liquid is quite a bit stronger unless Huk plays 50 times better than he did at gamescom.
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ace match maybe Idra vs Sheth?
That would be interesting especially after that blizzard invitational tournament.
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On August 21 2011 01:23 hunter154 wrote:
Machine < Sheth
DeMusliM < HayprO
IdrA < Ret
Axslav < HerO
Not expecting it to be very close
I don't know man. Both PvP and ZvZ are funky matchups, and DeMusliM is looking really scary actually.
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this will be epic, Liquid should take this tho
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Yeah, and it's a standard BO1 PL format at that.
Those mirror matchups can really mess things up for TL.
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going to be sweet, this is the beginning of a liquid vs EG rivalry
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
tl 3-0 ez pz, too bad I cant watch
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On August 21 2011 01:23 hunter154 wrote:
Machine < Sheth
DeMusliM < HayprO
IdrA < Ret
Axslav < HerO
Not expecting it to be very close
demuslim is scary good right now. 231-47 on ladder, hes going to make pool play at next mlg easily
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Wonder why EG fields Machine first, i dont feel like he can win anything lately. EG surely has better choices
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With 2 ZvZ's and a PvP anything can happen, but I'm expecting a 3-1 for liquid
Machine<Sheth
Demuslim<Haypro
Idra<Ret
Axslav<Hero
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No Huk or PuMa? Wah. Why spend all those dolla dolla bills when you're going to field the same old team?
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This can definitely go to an ace match.
Machine < Sheth
DeMusliM > HayprO
Idra > Ret
Axslav < HerO
unfortunately I don't think they will play HuK because he is in Korea and won't want to play in the lag for the ace match
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lol i was actually looking forward to that but 3 mirror matches.. guess i will skip this one
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On August 21 2011 01:30 goswser wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 01:23 hunter154 wrote:
Machine < Sheth
DeMusliM < HayprO
IdrA < Ret
Axslav < HerO
Not expecting it to be very close demuslim is scary good right now. 231-47 on ladder, hes going to make pool play at next mlg easily
Is that NA ladder? -_-
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On August 21 2011 01:32 Eschaton wrote:
No Huk or PuMa? Wah. Why spend all those dolla dolla bills when you're going to field the same old team?
They're busy this weekend with IEM.......
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Siiiiick. Prediction: 3-1 for TL. Will tune in for sure.
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On August 21 2011 01:32 Eschaton wrote:
No Huk or PuMa? Wah. Why spend all those dolla dolla bills when you're going to field the same old team?
Too scared of being humiliated I guess.
This way they have an excuse at least.
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HuK and Puma at IEM Cologne Germany, so they aren't participating...
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On August 21 2011 01:33 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 01:30 goswser wrote:On August 21 2011 01:23 hunter154 wrote:
Machine < Sheth
DeMusliM < HayprO
IdrA < Ret
Axslav < HerO
Not expecting it to be very close demuslim is scary good right now. 231-47 on ladder, hes going to make pool play at next mlg easily Is that NA ladder? -_-
Yes.
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I Machine<Sheth
Demuslim>Haypro
IdrA>Ret
Axslav>Hero
Most likely TL winning the ace
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On August 21 2011 01:26 Jinivus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 01:21 Micket wrote:
In 4 player pl style battles, EG with a full lineup seems extremely powerful. Idra, Demuslim, Puma, Huk would be a formidable force that few teams would be able to beat. At this point, only Puma is really scary out of those players, and I doubt he will play. Liquid is quite a bit stronger unless Huk plays 50 times better than he did at gamescom.
I wouldn't dismiss HuK so quickly just after seeing a sub-par version of him at IEM and shit. The guy has been switching teams and flying around the planet too much, give him some time to get back into a normal rhythm. Besides, he's still kicking ass in GSL.
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On August 21 2011 01:35 OnlineHero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 01:33 Talin wrote:On August 21 2011 01:30 goswser wrote:On August 21 2011 01:23 hunter154 wrote:
Machine < Sheth
DeMusliM < HayprO
IdrA < Ret
Axslav < HerO
Not expecting it to be very close demuslim is scary good right now. 231-47 on ladder, hes going to make pool play at next mlg easily Is that NA ladder? -_- Yes.
Well that explains things then.
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Machine > Sheth
Demuslim > HayprO
idrA > Ret
Axslav < HerO
3-1 to EG.
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No PuMa, no HuK...and Liquid has HerO. Yeah, EG isn't winning this.
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not fielding Huk so soon vs previous team perhaps some good manner from EG?
Looking forward to these games especially idra v ret, seeing as they're friends and no doubt have a little rivalry going on for zvz.
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On August 21 2011 01:36 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 01:35 OnlineHero wrote:On August 21 2011 01:33 Talin wrote:On August 21 2011 01:30 goswser wrote:On August 21 2011 01:23 hunter154 wrote:
Machine < Sheth
DeMusliM < HayprO
IdrA < Ret
Axslav < HerO
Not expecting it to be very close demuslim is scary good right now. 231-47 on ladder, hes going to make pool play at next mlg easily Is that NA ladder? -_- Yes. Well that explains things then.
Yes, what a noob. He must be terrible.
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Liquid will surely get this.
But i expect a good match between Idra vs. Ret ^^
GL HF!
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3-2 TL.
Idra and Demuslim for EG. Ace for TL
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Sheth, Demuslim, Ret, Hero.
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KR to NA lag for PvP? I am not too sure of my chances fro Hero.
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On August 21 2011 01:30 goswser wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 01:23 hunter154 wrote:
Machine < Sheth
DeMusliM < HayprO
IdrA < Ret
Axslav < HerO
Not expecting it to be very close demuslim is scary good right now. 231-47 on NA ladder, hes going to make pool play at next mlg easily
Added something for ya!
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so many z , or just mirror in general
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On August 21 2011 01:35 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 01:26 Jinivus wrote:On August 21 2011 01:21 Micket wrote:
In 4 player pl style battles, EG with a full lineup seems extremely powerful. Idra, Demuslim, Puma, Huk would be a formidable force that few teams would be able to beat. At this point, only Puma is really scary out of those players, and I doubt he will play. Liquid is quite a bit stronger unless Huk plays 50 times better than he did at gamescom. I wouldn't dismiss HuK so quickly just after seeing a sub-par version of him at IEM and shit. The guy has been switching teams and flying around the planet too much, give him some time to get back into a normal rhythm. Besides, he's still kicking ass in GSL.
He beat sangho twice who has a horrible pvp winrate. Let's see how he does against nada.
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Hype hype hype!
I love GCPL, hope we get good casters, Go EG!
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definitely gonna be 3-2
idra and demuslim will win for EG - it'll go to the ace
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Gotta go with:
Sheth > Machine
Haypro > Demuslim (two of my favourite players )
Ret < IdrA
HerO > Axslav
Liquid 3-1
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too many mirror matches.. out of all the combinations why why why mirror matches so boring
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Oh, I could've missed this. FUCK YEAH.
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oh man this is gonna be awesome
surprised TLO isn't being used, he usually preforms well in the team leagues
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Is Puma officially EG yet?
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On August 21 2011 01:55 ssartor wrote:
Is Puma officially EG yet?
Yes, and he has been on EG for quite some time now. He is currently representing EG at IEM.
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On August 21 2011 01:55 ssartor wrote:
Is Puma officially EG yet?
Yes
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On August 21 2011 01:55 ssartor wrote:
Is Puma officially EG yet?
He is, but he wont play cuz he is at IEM, and pretty much he is preparing for final vs MC.
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On August 21 2011 01:55 ssartor wrote:
Is Puma officially EG yet?
He is playing under the EG tag at IEM, so I would think so
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I really want a Huk vs Hero fight. Always love me my Liquid vs EG grudge matches though.
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(Z)Machine <Bel Shir> (Z)Sheth
(T)DeMusliM <Tal'Darim> (Z)HayprO
(Z)IdrA <Metalopolis> (Z)Ret
(P)Axslav <Xel'Naga> (P)HerO
my picks. oO. glhf
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Puma is busy winning IEM and Huk probably still in Germany or on his way to Korea. EG sadly not with their best line ups, but still, EG fighting
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On August 21 2011 01:56 sermokala wrote:
I really want a Huk vs Hero fight. Always love me my Liquid vs EG grudge matches though.
that would be pretty epic and i think HerO would take it
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Are these VODS? Cuz Idra is playing TLopen today and some other players are at IEM? Or am I that wrong? :p
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Uh.. the pl style really sucks for these map pools imo. You got all mirrors all the time :S
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btw, is this live or recorded? live cast with replays?
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Jinro vs Huk would be the best ace match.
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Ret is a monster right now. Ret > Idra
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On August 21 2011 01:59 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Are these VODS? Cuz Idra is playing TLopen today and some other players are at IEM? Or am I that wrong? :p
Replays I believe?
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On August 21 2011 02:06 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 01:59 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Are these VODS? Cuz Idra is playing TLopen today and some other players are at IEM? Or am I that wrong? :p Replays I believe?
Games should be live?
It's bo1 in each, you can probably get some leeway to put a game on hold if you have a clashing schedule I'd guess?
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United States97276 Posts
Hoping for an ace match because those are usually exciting :D
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So strange, even with my superior, next-to-godlike swedish internet I still lag slightly on 240p.
Now I know how it is like to live in a third world country.
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Why do these guys have such shitty FPS?
It's been like this for a while if I recall, lower the settings a few notches.. FPS > Graphics
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Feels like 5 fps. Hope they can fix this.
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Sup with the stream :/ Laggin...
Btw. is this live, or replays ? cuz IdrA is atm playing TL Open
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On August 21 2011 02:09 HeIios wrote:
So strange, even with my superior, next-to-godlike swedish internet I still lag slightly on 240p.
Now I know how it is like to live in a third world country.
... you mean a worse first world country (lol Canada). Third world countries worry about more than Internet.
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BLocky stream if you ask me
Sheth in trouble?
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On August 21 2011 01:17 Mithriel wrote:
I think this will go to the ace match.
Machine < Sheth
Demuslim > Haypro
Idra <> ret (Can really go either way)
Axslav < Hero
Best prediction yet.
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machine needs to start sneaking in drones
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Laggy stream and similar colours on players.
And I thought normal ZvZ was hard to follow.
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
Sheth is droning like a monster.
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Why doesn't anyone ever go fast muta anymore in zvz like in BW btw? I always go fast muta with a lot of spines vs roaches, I think have like 80% winrate zvz :p
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
I don't see sheth losing this.
On August 21 2011 02:17 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Why doesn't anyone ever go fast muta anymore in zvz like in BW btw? I always go fast muta with a lot of spines vs roaches, I think have like 80% winrate zvz :p
That's because if you're scouted, you die to roach/ling aggression. Good against lower league players who don't scout, but very difficult to pull off against someone who knows what he's doing.
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Sheth waiting for his +1 before engaging.. neat.
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Turn it from 720+ to 720 and you won't have lag (unless you got a crappy con yourself of course).
Anyways TL fighting, should be a easy win.
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On August 21 2011 02:07 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:06 Numy wrote:On August 21 2011 01:59 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Are these VODS? Cuz Idra is playing TLopen today and some other players are at IEM? Or am I that wrong? :p Replays I believe? Games should be live? It's bo1 in each, you can probably get some leeway to put a game on hold if you have a clashing schedule I'd guess?
To my knowledge they try do it live but if there's scheduling issues they do it off replays for those games and live off the ones they can.
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On August 21 2011 02:17 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Why doesn't anyone ever go fast muta anymore in zvz like in BW btw? I always go fast muta with a lot of spines vs roaches, I think have like 80% winrate zvz :p
"fast muta" means you won't have enough roaches or spines to defend someone going pure roach and upgrades usually
If you mean a muta switch after you are safe, it's hard to play, against roach/hydra. If they can get a nydus in your base you basically lose, and you have to be super active to pay for them, especially with killing infesters and stuff
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On August 21 2011 02:19 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:07 Asha` wrote:On August 21 2011 02:06 Numy wrote:On August 21 2011 01:59 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Are these VODS? Cuz Idra is playing TLopen today and some other players are at IEM? Or am I that wrong? :p Replays I believe? Games should be live? It's bo1 in each, you can probably get some leeway to put a game on hold if you have a clashing schedule I'd guess? To my knowledge they try do it live but if there's scheduling issues they do it off replays for those games and live off the ones they can.
That cut at the end of the match looked very much like a replay =p
Well, that was the most easily predicted match out of the way, let's get into the interesting stuff =)
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On August 21 2011 02:20 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:17 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Why doesn't anyone ever go fast muta anymore in zvz like in BW btw? I always go fast muta with a lot of spines vs roaches, I think have like 80% winrate zvz :p "fast muta" means you won't have enough roaches or spines to defend someone going pure roach and upgrades usually If you mean a muta switch after you are safe, it's hard to play, against roach/hydra. If they can get a nydus in your base you basically lose, and you have to be super active to pay for them, especially with killing infesters and stuff
Well yea, I go muta after I kill their initial push and the games I lose are usually because of infestors but I'm willing to take those chance for stupid zvz's :p
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United States97276 Posts
Has Demuslim's TvZ improved? It's his worst MU, right?
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
It's so nice to see reapers tearing shit up in TvZ for nostalgia's sake.
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Haypro
Whe he wins, he always crushes face. But when he loses, he looks so terrible in defeat...
This reaper rush is pretty much gg
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Reapers are pretty good This opener did a ton of damage
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Haha, Ben basically killing Haypro with reapers, nice xD
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omg demuslim sooo good <3
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This is just painful to watch
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Haypro scouted the reaper build earlier but didn't know how to play against it .
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lol haypro looked lost against the reapers, you don't see that opening every day lol
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Damn Demuslim dominating haypro, cant wait for ret v idra
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Is the frame rate bad to anyone else?
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reaper builds are easy to hold off if you get two queens out and have micro your zerglings...
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Wow.
I feel for Idra having to practice against DeMuslim.
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United States97276 Posts
Wow. That was just brutal
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United Kingdom38255 Posts
I feel slightly dirty after watching that =p
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What a beautiful build from Demuslim. Reapers force tons of lings, and the hellion follow-up just kills the Zerg. The reapers were way more effective than they perhaps should've been, but that was gorgeous.
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Demuslim with the crazy control
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I went from being embarrassed to pity. Oh well. Executed well.
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That's what I call an effective harass :p
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On August 21 2011 02:35 diverzee wrote:
Is the frame rate bad to anyone else?
No lag for me. Stream's pretty perfect.
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On August 21 2011 02:36 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:35 diverzee wrote:
Is the frame rate bad to anyone else? No lag for me. Stream's pretty perfect.
Same here. looks great
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game 2 was disgusting!
demuslim is great!
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On August 21 2011 02:35 Asha` wrote:
I feel slightly dirty after watching that =p
Know what you mean. That was brutal.
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Great job Ben! Stream again soon please, last night's streaming was great.
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that game was just wrong :D i'm just glad that i'm just a lowly diamond so no one can micro that well and expand and go blue flame hellions behind that :D gg!
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Even as a protoss player I hate hellions. I feel really bad for zerg.
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Demuslim kept on some amazing harassment against Haypro. He has some sexy micro.
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On August 21 2011 02:36 Kisra wrote:
What a beautiful build from Demuslim. Reapers force tons of lings, and the hellion follow-up just kills the Zerg. The reapers were way more effective than they perhaps should've been, but that was gorgeous.
There should be no way that a zerg player should lose more than 2-3 drones.
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Wow, that was disgusting. Demuslim with superior control, his harass was unstoppable.
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
Will there be Vods of this? I wanna see Demu tearing it up!
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I got a boner watching that... and I am zerg. WP DeMusliM
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On August 21 2011 02:38 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:36 Kisra wrote:
What a beautiful build from Demuslim. Reapers force tons of lings, and the hellion follow-up just kills the Zerg. The reapers were way more effective than they perhaps should've been, but that was gorgeous. There should be no way that a zerg player should lose more than 2-3 drones.
plzzzzzzz tell me how cuz i cant figure it out??? scvs bug out @ the bunker aka cant be killed before reaper gets there, the reaper gets there way before a queen is done, micro all day gg drones
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On August 21 2011 02:39 Liquid`Ret wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:38 ptbl wrote:On August 21 2011 02:36 Kisra wrote:
What a beautiful build from Demuslim. Reapers force tons of lings, and the hellion follow-up just kills the Zerg. The reapers were way more effective than they perhaps should've been, but that was gorgeous. There should be no way that a zerg player should lose more than 2-3 drones. plzzzzzzz tell me how cuz i cant figure it out??? scvs bug out @ the bunker aka cant be killed before reaper gets there, the reaper gets there way before a queen is done, micro all day gg drones
Im with ret here, i would also like to know!
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On August 21 2011 02:39 Liquid`Ret wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:38 ptbl wrote:On August 21 2011 02:36 Kisra wrote:
What a beautiful build from Demuslim. Reapers force tons of lings, and the hellion follow-up just kills the Zerg. The reapers were way more effective than they perhaps should've been, but that was gorgeous. There should be no way that a zerg player should lose more than 2-3 drones. plzzzzzzz tell me how cuz i cant figure it out??? scvs bug out @ the bunker aka cant be killed before reaper gets there, the reaper gets there way before a queen is done, micro all day gg drones
r u sure it was bugging out or a building scv just being a building scv?
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On August 21 2011 02:39 Liquid`Ret wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:38 ptbl wrote:On August 21 2011 02:36 Kisra wrote:
What a beautiful build from Demuslim. Reapers force tons of lings, and the hellion follow-up just kills the Zerg. The reapers were way more effective than they perhaps should've been, but that was gorgeous. There should be no way that a zerg player should lose more than 2-3 drones. plzzzzzzz tell me how cuz i cant figure it out??? scvs bug out @ the bunker aka cant be killed before reaper gets there, the reaper gets there way before a queen is done, micro all day gg drones
There was a moment where Haypro had a chance to prevent the reaper from jumping from the cliff and getting in the bunker. Focused the bunker with all units instead. gg.
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On August 21 2011 02:39 Liquid`Ret wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:38 ptbl wrote:On August 21 2011 02:36 Kisra wrote:
What a beautiful build from Demuslim. Reapers force tons of lings, and the hellion follow-up just kills the Zerg. The reapers were way more effective than they perhaps should've been, but that was gorgeous. There should be no way that a zerg player should lose more than 2-3 drones. plzzzzzzz tell me how cuz i cant figure it out??? scvs bug out @ the bunker aka cant be killed before reaper gets there, the reaper gets there way before a queen is done, micro all day gg drones
haypro killed off the first scv and second scv. I think he didn't assume demuslim would send the third scv, which he wasn't able to block it from finishing the bunker. And, he was focusing the bunker when he could have denied the reaper from jumping in the bunker. After the reaper got in, it was pretty much good game.
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stream isn't lagging it's the game frame rate that's bad, distracting from a great series.
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On August 21 2011 02:43 crms wrote:stream isn't lagging it's the game frame rate that's bad, distracting from a great series.
Exactly. No lag, but horrible frame rate
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On August 21 2011 02:43 crms wrote:stream isn't lagging it's the game frame rate that's bad, distracting from a great series.
Nope, it's the stream.
Sometimes the image is catching up, sometimes the sound is catching up. Casters' voices don't come from the game itself afaik
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Curious to see who has the better macro, Ret or Idra...
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Ret following Nestea's cue on how to play zvz, should be interesting
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Yeah, Ret comes from BW - these zergs love their spire in ZvZ. It works well also.
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Ret isn't gonna lose to IdrA, Ret is looking very dangerous lately, rocking all tourneys he's in.
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Very choppy FPS and hard to watch with the bad fps.
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Ret got this, idra has no idea and 9 inital mutas do enough damage to stop those roaches
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On August 21 2011 02:46 teko wrote:
Curious to see who has the better macro, Ret or Idra...
Ret obviously. They're on equal supply and Idra has a lot of supply-inefficient, cheap roaches LOL
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IdrA cmon -.-, even tho that was probably lost he could atleast have all-inned him with all his shit and streamed in lings or whatever....
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lol well at least he gged
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Well played Ret.
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Wtf............... >_<
Oh man, he could've tried at least?
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LOL. IdrA follow nestea next time.....
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Wow, Ret with the nice transition .
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omg ahahaha, classic idra xD
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Hahahahahaha. Well done Ret!
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On August 21 2011 02:49 sereniity wrote:
IdrA cmon -.-
that was actually a smart gg, he had like 2 queens vs 10+ mutas
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Great build by ret- IdrA had 0 chance once that many mutas came out
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Idra gonna Idra.
Nice idea from Ret.
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At least he GG'd
Well, he was pretty dead, so that gg was ok I guess.
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Wow. Idra build order loss?
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Man, was looking forward for a macro game :|
Is that asking too much from ZvZ...
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he would have lost every drone , i don't see why not to gg there
edit: these commentators r pretty wrong, tons of zerg are doing the mutalisk play currently, idra ret and sheth have all been doing it vs eachother on ladder makes for really cool games but it's a build order win vs +1 roach timing attack unless they scout it obviously
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Is that John Goodman commentating?
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oh gee i hope he doesnt have spores or scouted me
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That was actually good gg timing, no way he was gonna come back from that.
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Two Queens vs. 8 Mutas. Yeah, he was dead.
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I turn on stream, see mutas, see GG from Idra. Perfect timing :D
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Has Idra play any ZvZ at all on ladder? People been doing that Muta switch in Masters for a long time now...
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Looks like my predictions will stand!
Axslav could out 4-gate HerO though, due to latency
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Seeing mutas into GG. Can't blame him for doing that in this particular situation tho. He was basically dead.
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Ret, Sheth, One korean guy who will occasionally drop a spire?! Is this caster serious?
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oh dear god.... "that one korean whose name i cant remember"
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gg Ret, IdrA with a good gg timing for once.
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On August 21 2011 02:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:
lol well at least he gged
They are good friends and respect another, so offc he does.
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Ahahah. Sorry, I like Idra, but this was so funny! The reaction time for gg is stellar.
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On August 21 2011 02:22 DwmC_Foefen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:20 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 21 2011 02:17 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Why doesn't anyone ever go fast muta anymore in zvz like in BW btw? I always go fast muta with a lot of spines vs roaches, I think have like 80% winrate zvz :p "fast muta" means you won't have enough roaches or spines to defend someone going pure roach and upgrades usually If you mean a muta switch after you are safe, it's hard to play, against roach/hydra. If they can get a nydus in your base you basically lose, and you have to be super active to pay for them, especially with killing infesters and stuff Well yea, I go muta after I kill their initial push and the games I lose are usually because of infestors but I'm willing to take those chance for stupid zvz's :p
Like this game :p
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Ret so much better
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There was nothing what he could've done, it was not an early gg :p
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Haha, did the commentator really refer to Nestea as that one korean guy who occasionally throws down a spire lol
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On August 21 2011 02:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Wow. Idra build order loss?
No, he didn't scout. And ZvZ is the only match up that you actually can scout in LOL
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I've seen Idra's ladder games on zvz, he watches out for mutas quite often. I think he's just played Ret so much he's been cutting corners.
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I'm not even mad about his gg, that was fine. His scouting was just really bad, sacc an overlord? Look at the gas? 3 Spines at the front should atleast send off some alarm to your brain...
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looking like EG is gonna get owned today 3-1
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Yup, i'm looking forward to seeing Idra in Korea to catch up in the metagame a bit. I feel like his then strong ZvZ suffered a lot.
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That almost made me spill my drinks.
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On August 21 2011 02:51 Choboo wrote:No, he didn't scout. And ZvZ is the only match up that you actually can scout in LOL
Yeah he really shoulda seen the 3 spines and no roaches. He shoulda knew something was up
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On August 21 2011 02:29 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Has Demuslim's TvZ improved? It's his worst MU, right?
Yes it has improved. Actually it was just a relatively short time after the injury were he had serious trouble with it.
Now he is tearing up ladder again, and clan wars too it seems.
He said on his stream that he is now about equally strong in all 3 matchups.
Maybe he will stream today again, just watch it.
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On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:Ret so much better
Comments like these are just laughable...
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On August 21 2011 02:51 integrity wrote:
looking like EG is gonna get owned today 3-1
probably. Hero should have this
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On August 21 2011 02:50 denzelz wrote:
Has Idra play any ZvZ at all on ladder? People been doing that Muta switch in Masters for a long time now...
zenio has done that to him in NASL, so I'm sure he knows about it
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On August 21 2011 02:51 kusto wrote:
Yup, i'm looking forward to seeing Idra in Korea to catch up in the metagame a bit. I feel like his then strong ZvZ suffered a lot.
It has nothing to dow ith metagame, lol
IdrA and Ret are good friends, they custom each other a LOT
Idra just didn't see it, and ret doesn't go muta most of the time.
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On August 21 2011 02:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Wow. Idra build order loss?
Is it possible? Did I really hear a zerg went muta's vs the inevitable roaches and actually won? Who would've thought.
Seriously I'm curious as to why fast muta isn't used more in ZvZ
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HerO gonna take the game against Axslav, I'm pretty sure, unless the lag is to bad for him.
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That was pretty bad from Idra. No roach pressure at all, late lair, of course you aren't gonna be able to scout what's going on if you never attack.
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Sheth/Ret/some korean guy is not the top 3 zergs in the world
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damn hard to win a clan war with two of your best 3 players out.
tt
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woo Ret... promised victory on Twitter... and delivered <3
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On August 21 2011 02:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:51 integrity wrote:
looking like EG is gonna get owned today 3-1
probably. Hero should have this
Cross-server latency would like to weight in. In PvP it matters a lot.
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On August 21 2011 02:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Wow. Idra build order loss?
no thats not a build order loss.
they had mirror openings because of close air scouting.
build order loss would be like early pool vs hatch first.
ret just took a big risk by teching to mutas and idra didn't scout.
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On August 21 2011 02:52 sereniity wrote:Comments like these are just laughable...
Say what you will, but Ret was better today. I don't know why IdrA didn't scout after seeing no roaches and three spines at the front ...
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Come on Axlav!
PS. DeMulsim rocks!
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Commentators were saying that Idra has better macro than Idra but lets be honest; if one person loves drones more than Idra its Ret. Hope we get to see Ret play a full game before this is over.
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On August 21 2011 02:52 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:51 kusto wrote:
Yup, i'm looking forward to seeing Idra in Korea to catch up in the metagame a bit. I feel like his then strong ZvZ suffered a lot. It has nothing to dow ith metagame, lol IdrA and Ret are good friends, they custom each other a LOT Idra just didn't see it, and ret doesn't go muta most of the time.
My bad, then. So it was just awful scouting.
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On August 21 2011 02:52 BilltownRunner wrote:
damn hard to win a clan war with two of your best 3 players out.
tt
lol I haven't heard any complaints when Liquid lost in the previous season of team leagues cause Jinro (then Code S) and HuK never played. :D
But I'm sorry they didn't go in with their full lineup, destroying them would feel much more satisfactory then.
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ouch it's PvP... wanted to see Hero's PvZ or PvT
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I was kind of hoping to see a macro roach fest between the two best foreigner macro zergs, but I'm glad Ret won that easily with mutas, hopefully idra can realize mutas are the way to go now!
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What was going through IdrA's mind? 
See:
- only lings, no roaches
- 3 spines
And just continues making roaches. Seems he was playing completely mindlessly, hoping for some ez 4srrrrrrrrrr wars.
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On August 21 2011 02:54 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:52 BilltownRunner wrote:
damn hard to win a clan war with two of your best 3 players out.
tt lol I haven't heard any complaints when Liquid lost in the previous season of team leagues cause Jinro (then Code S) and HuK never played. :D But I'm sorry they didn't go in with their full lineup, destroying them would feel much more satisfactory then.
I'd easily take a demuslim, puma, huk, idra lineup over any liquid lineup.
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On August 21 2011 02:55 Archerylady wrote:What was going through IdrA's mind? See: - only lings, no roaches - 3 spines And just continues making roaches. Seems he was playing completely mindlessly, hoping for some ez 4srrrrrrrrrr wars.
and 4 extractors.
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On August 21 2011 02:55 Archerylady wrote:What was going through IdrA's mind? See: - only lings, no roaches - 3 spines And just continues making roaches. Seems he was playing completely mindlessly, hoping for some ez 4srrrrrrrrrr wars.
to be fair he didnt see the spines until the mutas were on the way.
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On August 21 2011 02:55 BilltownRunner wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:54 Talin wrote:On August 21 2011 02:52 BilltownRunner wrote:
damn hard to win a clan war with two of your best 3 players out.
tt lol I haven't heard any complaints when Liquid lost in the previous season of team leagues cause Jinro (then Code S) and HuK never played. :D But I'm sorry they didn't go in with their full lineup, destroying them would feel much more satisfactory then. I'd easily take a demuslim, puma, huk, idra lineup over any liquid lineup.
This
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On August 21 2011 02:55 BilltownRunner wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:54 Talin wrote:On August 21 2011 02:52 BilltownRunner wrote:
damn hard to win a clan war with two of your best 3 players out.
tt lol I haven't heard any complaints when Liquid lost in the previous season of team leagues cause Jinro (then Code S) and HuK never played. :D But I'm sorry they didn't go in with their full lineup, destroying them would feel much more satisfactory then. I'd easily take a demuslim, puma, huk, idra lineup over any liquid lineup.
I think that EG lineup could give any team in the world a run for its money, Koreans included.
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On August 21 2011 02:55 BilltownRunner wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:54 Talin wrote:On August 21 2011 02:52 BilltownRunner wrote:
damn hard to win a clan war with two of your best 3 players out.
tt lol I haven't heard any complaints when Liquid lost in the previous season of team leagues cause Jinro (then Code S) and HuK never played. :D But I'm sorry they didn't go in with their full lineup, destroying them would feel much more satisfactory then. I'd easily take a demuslim, puma, huk, idra lineup over any liquid lineup.
Who cares what you would take? Results are results.
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EG should really send Demuslim to Korea.
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Would have been interesting to see EG use Huk. I guess that's not the best tactical plan, since Liquid probably knows Huk very well, but would have been neat! Also a Puma vs Hero match would have been neat.
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On August 21 2011 02:52 sereniity wrote:Comments like these are just laughable...
Why? You can't really deny it if you compare Idra vs Huk from NA bnet invitational and Ret vs Naniwa from EU bnet invitational. The skill difference between them is soo large. In this game they were even on supply even tho Idra had gone supply inefficient roaches :s
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On August 21 2011 02:52 sereniity wrote:Comments like these are just laughable...
Laughable? Debatable, maybe, by why laughable? There's way more recent evidence to indicate that Ret is playing better than IdrA right now. Seems like a fairly reasonable statement to me.
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On August 21 2011 02:55 BilltownRunner wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:54 Talin wrote:On August 21 2011 02:52 BilltownRunner wrote:
damn hard to win a clan war with two of your best 3 players out.
tt lol I haven't heard any complaints when Liquid lost in the previous season of team leagues cause Jinro (then Code S) and HuK never played. :D But I'm sorry they didn't go in with their full lineup, destroying them would feel much more satisfactory then. I'd easily take a demuslim, puma, huk, idra lineup over any liquid lineup.
Well you can take anything you want, but until it actually happens it's just empty talk and boasting with player names.
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3-1 TL. If Idra manages to beat Ret there will likely be an ace match.
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On August 21 2011 02:55 BilltownRunner wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:54 Talin wrote:On August 21 2011 02:52 BilltownRunner wrote:
damn hard to win a clan war with two of your best 3 players out.
tt lol I haven't heard any complaints when Liquid lost in the previous season of team leagues cause Jinro (then Code S) and HuK never played. :D But I'm sorry they didn't go in with their full lineup, destroying them would feel much more satisfactory then. I'd easily take a demuslim, puma, huk, idra lineup over any liquid lineup.
Hero, Ret, Sheth and Jinro would probably win 3-1
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On August 21 2011 02:59 Choboo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:55 BilltownRunner wrote:On August 21 2011 02:54 Talin wrote:On August 21 2011 02:52 BilltownRunner wrote:
damn hard to win a clan war with two of your best 3 players out.
tt lol I haven't heard any complaints when Liquid lost in the previous season of team leagues cause Jinro (then Code S) and HuK never played. :D But I'm sorry they didn't go in with their full lineup, destroying them would feel much more satisfactory then. I'd easily take a demuslim, puma, huk, idra lineup over any liquid lineup. Hero, Ret, Sheth and Jinro would probably win 3-1
Poor Hayder
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On August 21 2011 02:59 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:52 sereniity wrote:On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:Ret so much better Comments like these are just laughable... Laughable? Debatable, maybe, by why laughable? There's way more recent evidence to indicate that Ret is playing better than IdrA right now. Seems like a fairly reasonable statement to me.
Because it's a laughably annoying comment that is making this forum pretty shitty recently.
Every time a player losses to another, they are bad now and the winner is obviously 10x better. It doesn't apply to just idra either, people are doing it with every player that losses.
Apparently huk is terrible now, since he did poorly at IEM
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On August 21 2011 02:59 Offhand wrote:
3-1 TL. If Idra manages to beat Ret there will likely be an ace match.
Did you miss the last game?
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Liquid should really release haypro
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On August 21 2011 03:00 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:59 tree.hugger wrote:On August 21 2011 02:52 sereniity wrote:On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:Ret so much better Comments like these are just laughable... Laughable? Debatable, maybe, by why laughable? There's way more recent evidence to indicate that Ret is playing better than IdrA right now. Seems like a fairly reasonable statement to me. Because it's a laughably annoying comment that is making this forum pretty shitty recently. Every time a player losses to another, they are bad now and the winner is obviously 10x better. It doesn't apply to just idra either, people are doing it with every player that losses. Apparently huk is terrible now, since he did poorly at IEM
Huk has been traveling a lot recently while Idra has just stayed in the new practice house. There's a huge difference in comparing player with bad playing conditions and players with perfect condition.
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Too many mirrors *_* hmm,., wonder if ax can pull out a win.. wanna see an ace match..
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On August 21 2011 02:58 Choboo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:52 sereniity wrote:On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:Ret so much better Comments like these are just laughable... In this game they were even on supply even tho Idra had gone supply inefficient roaches :s
That's pretty much bad logic, since Ret's supply was made up of Zerglings that are 100 minerals per 2 supply, while Idra's supply was made up of Roaches that are 75 minerals and 25 gas.
Also you can't really call a player bad from games such as these. I mean, SlayersDragon and SlayersGolden just got knocked out of TLopen by nobodies.
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On August 21 2011 03:01 Kralle333 wrote:
Liquid should really release haypro
Why? Because he lost to a build that he probably hasn't seen before and both him and ret don't know how to counter yet?
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On August 21 2011 03:03 Choboo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 03:00 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 21 2011 02:59 tree.hugger wrote:On August 21 2011 02:52 sereniity wrote:On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:Ret so much better Comments like these are just laughable... Laughable? Debatable, maybe, by why laughable? There's way more recent evidence to indicate that Ret is playing better than IdrA right now. Seems like a fairly reasonable statement to me. Because it's a laughably annoying comment that is making this forum pretty shitty recently. Every time a player losses to another, they are bad now and the winner is obviously 10x better. It doesn't apply to just idra either, people are doing it with every player that losses. Apparently huk is terrible now, since he did poorly at IEM Huk has been traveling a lot recently while Idra has just stayed in the new practice house. There's a huge difference in comparing player with bad playing conditions and players with perfect condition.
Perfect condition? The only player who is close to Idra's level there is Demuslim..
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hero looking okay even after losing his whole army.
he expanded and kept robo count down.
On August 21 2011 03:06 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 03:03 Choboo wrote:On August 21 2011 03:00 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 21 2011 02:59 tree.hugger wrote:On August 21 2011 02:52 sereniity wrote:On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:Ret so much better Comments like these are just laughable... Laughable? Debatable, maybe, by why laughable? There's way more recent evidence to indicate that Ret is playing better than IdrA right now. Seems like a fairly reasonable statement to me. Because it's a laughably annoying comment that is making this forum pretty shitty recently. Every time a player losses to another, they are bad now and the winner is obviously 10x better. It doesn't apply to just idra either, people are doing it with every player that losses. Apparently huk is terrible now, since he did poorly at IEM Huk has been traveling a lot recently while Idra has just stayed in the new practice house. There's a huge difference in comparing player with bad playing conditions and players with perfect condition. Perfect condition? The only player who is close to Idra's level there is Demuslim..
whats your point?
he wasnt traveling or sick.
if someone isnt considered perfect condition living in their own team house, who's fault is that?
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These casters need improvement.
+ Show Spoiler +Hero kills one of the Axslav's stalkers really early, and instead of talking about it, and the consequences of it, they are blabbing on trying to show everyone how much they know about PvP.
Also Hero gas steals and takes his own 2nd gas, and the caster continues to talk about how Hero is Korean, and thus will 4 gate. Not until the Assimilators finish do they realize it won't be a 4 gate.
Instead of paying attention to the game at hand, they are trying to just talk the entire time to show us everything they know, almost as if to justify themselves as casters . Very poorly done.
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It's incredibly how MC does this same build that much better
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On August 21 2011 03:05 Joey Wheeler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:58 Choboo wrote:On August 21 2011 02:52 sereniity wrote:On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:Ret so much better Comments like these are just laughable... In this game they were even on supply even tho Idra had gone supply inefficient roaches :s That's pretty much bad logic, since Ret's supply was made up of Zerglings that are 100 minerals per 2 supply, while Idra's supply was made up of Roaches that are 75 minerals and 25 gas. Also you can't really call a player bad from games such as these. I mean, SlayersDragon and SlayersGolden just got knocked out of TLopen by nobodies.
Dragon's opponent had Dragon's stream open when they were playing. Take what you will from that.
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Stutter-stepping Zealots!
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That's what APM does to you.
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blink best ability in the game
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wow that was a fucking beatdown lol.. real nice by hero.
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On which server do they play ?!
Seems like lan mod for Hero.
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On August 21 2011 01:16 mprs wrote:The lack of HuK vs HerO ace match lost GCPL 50k viewers. Liquid 3-1 Sheth Demuslim Ret HerO
Unoriginal picking, but the first person to pick them!
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Hero dominating, Liquid smashing face <3
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On August 21 2011 02:52 BFD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:On August 21 2011 02:51 integrity wrote:
looking like EG is gonna get owned today 3-1
probably. Hero should have this Cross-server latency would like to weight in. In PvP it matters a lot.
Oh hey cross server latency
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Hero so good! Seems like all the matches were right on with the predictions.
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Was kinda scared for HerO after that first terrible blink-up in the main, but he pulled it together and owned up !
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On August 21 2011 01:23 dooraven wrote:
Predictions:
Machine < Sheth
Demuslim > Haypro
Idra < Ret
Axlav < Hero
3-1 to TL
nice prediction
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aren't there any more players EG can purchase to boost the roster?
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hm,., that was a dull clan war,,
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On August 21 2011 03:10 SafeAsCheese wrote:
blink best ability in the game
Along with Stim, Fungal, Storm, and EMP.
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On August 21 2011 03:10 fafalecureuil wrote:
On which server do they play ?!
Seems like lan mod for Hero.
US server i believe.
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well that wasnt very exciting
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that went as best as it could be, Demu won but Liquid still took it all :D
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WP Liquid.
I like the reruslt
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On August 21 2011 01:57 crms wrote:
(Z)Machine <Bel Shir> (Z)Sheth
(T)DeMusliM <Tal'Darim> (Z)HayprO
(Z)IdrA <Metalopolis> (Z)Ret
(P)Axslav <Xel'Naga> (P)HerO
my picks. oO. glhf
2ez!
still cant get over how boss hero looked.. it's like he was toying with axslav the entire time..
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See ya EG, still ezmode.
Make moar countdowns.
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Wow, that's how you play blink vs fast colossus
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GG to Liquid. Does anyone know when the Vods will come up?
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On August 21 2011 02:53 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:52 sereniity wrote:On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:Ret so much better Comments like these are just laughable... Say what you will, but Ret was better today. I don't know why IdrA didn't scout after seeing no roaches and three spines at the front ...
I do agree with that, but you can't look at this match and say "wow ret so much better"
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On August 21 2011 03:12 Talin wrote:See ya EG, still ezmode. Make moar countdowns.
50% of your posts shit on EG, give it a rest lol
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On August 21 2011 03:13 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 03:12 Talin wrote:See ya EG, still ezmode. Make moar countdowns. 50% of your posts shit on EG, give it a rest lol
I bet it is a lot of fun to write them though :O I certainly enjoy reading them
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On August 21 2011 03:10 fafalecureuil wrote:
On which server do they play ?!
Seems like lan mod for Hero.
All games were played on North American BattleNET, except for Idra vs Ret which was played on EU.
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On August 21 2011 03:13 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 03:12 Talin wrote:See ya EG, still ezmode. Make moar countdowns. 50% of your posts shit on EG, give it a rest lol
I'm flattered you've been following my posts, but please don't tell me what to do.
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So many people predicted it perfectly!
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I didn't see Hero's horrible blink up (I missed the first part) but I have never seen someone dominate so convincingly in PvP than Hero vs. Axslav. SUCH BEAUTIFUL BLINK MICRO!
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On August 21 2011 03:00 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:59 tree.hugger wrote:On August 21 2011 02:52 sereniity wrote:On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:Ret so much better Comments like these are just laughable... Laughable? Debatable, maybe, by why laughable? There's way more recent evidence to indicate that Ret is playing better than IdrA right now. Seems like a fairly reasonable statement to me. Because it's a laughably annoying comment that is making this forum pretty shitty recently. Every time a player losses to another, they are bad now and the winner is obviously 10x better. It doesn't apply to just idra either, people are doing it with every player that losses. Apparently huk is terrible now, since he did poorly at IEM
Point is that Ret has better results in recent past. That is the only relevant definition of "better".
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That was a pretty easy prediction lol. Hero's micro was a slight bit lacking but that might just be due to the NA-KR lag.
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On August 21 2011 03:11 Sina92 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 01:23 dooraven wrote:
Predictions:
Machine < Sheth
Demuslim > Haypro
Idra < Ret
Axlav < Hero
3-1 to TL nice prediction + aren't there any more players EG can purchase to boost the roster?
It seems they are only interested in NA players, as they are the most bankable assets for sponsors. I would say that reduces the possibilities to Select (maybe too korean? But really sexy) and Sheth (an american sweet-heart, but not as good looking as Idra)
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On August 21 2011 03:14 Loddigesia wrote:From Ret's twitter haha ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IQScB.jpg)
Rofl, epic.
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On August 21 2011 01:16 mprs wrote:The lack of HuK vs HerO ace match lost GCPL 50k viewers. Liquid 3-1 Sheth Demuslim Ret HerO
You won the thread.
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On August 21 2011 03:11 Telcontar wrote:Along with Stim, Fungal, Storm, and EMP.
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On August 21 2011 03:14 Loddigesia wrote:From Ret's twitter haha
haha, that's brilliant. :D
But it would've been better with a countdown page!
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Sheth still has game face on
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100% worth repeated quoting.
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wish there was an ace match but go Liquid!!!
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On August 21 2011 03:00 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:59 tree.hugger wrote:On August 21 2011 02:52 sereniity wrote:On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:Ret so much better Comments like these are just laughable... Laughable? Debatable, maybe, by why laughable? There's way more recent evidence to indicate that Ret is playing better than IdrA right now. Seems like a fairly reasonable statement to me. Because it's a laughably annoying comment that is making this forum pretty shitty recently. Every time a player losses to another, they are bad now and the winner is obviously 10x better. It doesn't apply to just idra either, people are doing it with every player that losses. Apparently huk is terrible now, since he did poorly at IEM
^ This guy said it better than I did
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well done Liquid, saw that result as soon as I saw the lineups!!!
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no HuK would be nice if there's HuK
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go Liquid!
very fun matches today. i especially liked hero vs axslav.
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On August 21 2011 03:21 sereniity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 03:00 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 21 2011 02:59 tree.hugger wrote:On August 21 2011 02:52 sereniity wrote:On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:Ret so much better Comments like these are just laughable... Laughable? Debatable, maybe, by why laughable? There's way more recent evidence to indicate that Ret is playing better than IdrA right now. Seems like a fairly reasonable statement to me. Because it's a laughably annoying comment that is making this forum pretty shitty recently. Every time a player losses to another, they are bad now and the winner is obviously 10x better. It doesn't apply to just idra either, people are doing it with every player that losses. Apparently huk is terrible now, since he did poorly at IEM ^ This guy said it better than I did
Did you even read the comment ? serieusly he never said Idra was bad, just that Ret was better and i have to agree if we look at resent play.
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That picture is fucking WINNING, hahahaha
GO LIQUID!
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Ret's photo should be in the Results spoiler.
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+ Show Spoiler +Yeah! Ret Sheth and Hero won!!! Sucks for haypro though, because Demuslim has a really good tvz
Edit: Also really happy we didn't see huk play in this, that actually would have broken my heart lol
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I bet Ret was just waiting for it to end so he could post that picture. hahaha
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haha so epic!!!!
Big grats Liquid!!!
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Congrats to teamliquid!
A bunch of manner guys, who can't love to see them win?
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Good win for Liquid
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can the replays be downloaded anywhere?
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I guess i kinda wrote in the wrong thread earlier ( The Main GosuChoaching thread)
On August 21 2011 02:25 Zorgaz wrote:I think TL can win! Haypro will have a hard time beating DeMuslim But I'm sure Sheth, Hero and Ret can win
Yah my prediction was correct
Go TL! :D
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TL smashes, good to see
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liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiqqqqqqquid ffffffffffffiiightttting!
whos this huk guy you speak of?
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grats to TL :D
sheth, ret and hero are beasts !!!
haypro also played well.
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Damn exactly how I saw it going down.
<3 TL
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Demuslim looking really strong right now. But TL prevailed, as expected.
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Ret vs. IdrA is great to learn from if you're having trouble with ZvZ.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
That pic is too awesome.
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gg:D i knew liquid would win
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On August 21 2011 04:03 cHicKeLoR wrote:
can the replays be downloaded anywhere?
Are there? i would love to checkout the idra vs sheth to improve my zvz T_T
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Is there any way to watch these? The Recordings on the Stream are too short.
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They didn't have Huk or Puma? :O That kinda discredits it seeing as they are the best players on the team but still awesome that TL won !!
I kinda dislike EG so that makes me happy
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On August 21 2011 06:31 RoyalCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 04:03 cHicKeLoR wrote:
can the replays be downloaded anywhere? Are there? i would love to checkout the idra vs sheth to improve my zvz T_T
you can check idra vs sheth from NA bnet invitational..
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Hahaha Epic Ret is epic!
Go TeamLiquid!!!
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damn, why u gotta fight, can't both win ! ?
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When/where can I find the replays? I just want to see the demuslim game
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im never impressed by haypro's play.. hes just tier levels below top zergs like ret
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On August 21 2011 08:04 koolaid1990 wrote:
im never impressed by haypro's play.. hes just tier levels below top zergs like ret
or sheth, cant forget about sheth :D i feel that at some point we are going to see the haypro that is said to come out only in practice games unlike the haypro that we see in tournament games, i can tell he has a lot more than he is showing us the only matter is when or if he can show us his best play
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think it would've been in bad taste for EG to send out HuK against his former team, especially so early. :/
Honestly don't know why they didn't play PuMa though..
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:O Where were Puma and Huk? Playing in IEM/Practicing for GSL? No excuse.
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Ooo damn this happened while I was sleeping. Well like all the other smart folk I saw the line-ups and correctly predicted 3-1 TL. Really not a tough call if you have been following the players well enough.
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I predicted the results perfectly! :D
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Liquid` fighting!!!! wasnt even a close series :D
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I did giggle when Ret's mutas arrived.
Was some interesting matches. Not necessarily for the right reasons, but I know I've learned a couple of things from them.
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why didnt incontrol play?
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On August 21 2011 07:31 taoito wrote:Hahaha Epic Ret is epic! Go TeamLiquid!!!
ahahaha indeed.soo funny:D
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Didn't expect EG to win given the matchups. Nice match by liquid.
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EG = easy game! Go Liquid.
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Hero's unit control is........... insane
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Hero is such an underrated player
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liquid looking real solid in gcpl so far... really great to see them doing an event as a team!
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TL fighting!!
On a more sour note I echo the sentiments of the guy earlier who wasn't really digging the casters. These guys need to spend more time watching what's going on and less time pontificating and pretending they know what they're talking about.
The easiest way a caster can kill a game for me is by constantly trying to prove to the audience how knowledgeable they are whilst being consistently wrong in their analysis.
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I can honestly see Hero winning MLG and a lot of future LANs he attends. Liquid picked up such a sick, sick player.
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Hero > HuK. what up?
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On August 21 2011 14:02 KillAudio wrote:Hero > HuK. what up?
This kind of stuff is really not acceptable.... If anything it would be = since they practice with each other..... For some reason everyone loves to bm huk now... T_T
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On August 21 2011 14:05 Yamulo wrote:This kind of stuff is really not acceptable.... If anything it would be = since they practice with each other..... For some reason everyone loves to bm huk now... T_T
Why? It's his opinion, and it really isn't that out of line... I don't see why it's unacceptable.
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EG got owned - GO LIQUID !
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On August 21 2011 14:21 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 14:05 Yamulo wrote:On August 21 2011 14:02 KillAudio wrote:Hero > HuK. what up? This kind of stuff is really not acceptable.... If anything it would be = since they practice with each other..... For some reason everyone loves to bm huk now... T_T Why? It's his opinion, and it really isn't that out of line... I don't see why it's unacceptable.
Yeah, Hero has been rated highly in oGs for a while. We all know how easy it is to get unlucky and hard to go through to/in Code A.
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On August 21 2011 14:02 KillAudio wrote:Hero > HuK. what up?
Hero = Code B
Huk = Code S
Yep, you stand correct.
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You like a player: IT'S SO HARD TO GET INTO CODE A
You dislike a player: LQL NOT EVEN CODE A
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On August 21 2011 16:43 Blurio wrote:
You like a player: IT'S SO HARD TO GET INTO CODE A
You dislike a player: LQL NOT EVEN CODE A
The former is true. The latter is the wrong attitude to have all the time.
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while im okay with the huk move, im happy that liquid won : )
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Congrats to TL but can hardly called team vs team when one teams two best players failed to participate.
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On August 21 2011 16:34 Moralez wrote:Hero = Code B Huk = Code S Yep, you stand correct.
Huk had it EASY. He didn't have to go through the terrifying qualifiers, which huk probably wouldn't have qualified for. He got in EASY and LUCKY through GOM invite. From there he climbed to code s, but had TERRIBLE TERRIBLE GAMES along the way, showing nothing impressive. He played like bad PVP's in the up and downs if i remember correctly
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On August 21 2011 08:12 unit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 08:04 koolaid1990 wrote:
im never impressed by haypro's play.. hes just tier levels below top zergs like ret or sheth, cant forget about sheth :D i feel that at some point we are going to see the haypro that is said to come out only in practice games unlike the haypro that we see in tournament games, i can tell he has a lot more than he is showing us the only matter is when or if he can show us his best play
Sheth is good, but hes below top foreign zergs like dimaga and ret. I mean if you watch his zvt against select in NA battle.net invitational, they were pretty bad, and select was using the exact same build every game. And you can say his zvp is good, but even then he got owned by whitera in a showmatch...
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On August 21 2011 17:12 koolaid1990 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 16:34 Moralez wrote:On August 21 2011 14:02 KillAudio wrote:Hero > HuK. what up? Hero = Code B Huk = Code S Yep, you stand correct. Huk had it EASY. He didn't have to go through the terrifying qualifiers, which huk probably wouldn't have qualified for. He got in EASY and LUCKY through GOM invite. From there he climbed to code s, but had TERRIBLE TERRIBLE GAMES along the way, showing nothing impressive. He played like bad PVP's in the up and downs if i remember correctly
So you must know how well hero has played in code B eh?
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On August 21 2011 18:03 Sea_Food wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 17:12 koolaid1990 wrote:On August 21 2011 16:34 Moralez wrote:On August 21 2011 14:02 KillAudio wrote:Hero > HuK. what up? Hero = Code B Huk = Code S Yep, you stand correct. Huk had it EASY. He didn't have to go through the terrifying qualifiers, which huk probably wouldn't have qualified for. He got in EASY and LUCKY through GOM invite. From there he climbed to code s, but had TERRIBLE TERRIBLE GAMES along the way, showing nothing impressive. He played like bad PVP's in the up and downs if i remember correctly So you must know how well hero has played in code B eh?
Beat DRG
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On August 21 2011 16:34 Moralez wrote:Hero = Code B Huk = Code S Yep, you stand correct.
When MMA was in Code B, and TheBest was in Code S, would you have said the same thing?
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On August 21 2011 17:12 koolaid1990 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 16:34 Moralez wrote:On August 21 2011 14:02 KillAudio wrote:Hero > HuK. what up? Hero = Code B Huk = Code S Yep, you stand correct. Huk had it EASY. He didn't have to go through the terrifying qualifiers, which huk probably wouldn't have qualified for. He got in EASY and LUCKY through GOM invite. From there he climbed to code s, but had TERRIBLE TERRIBLE GAMES along the way, showing nothing impressive. He played like bad PVP's in the up and downs if i remember correctly
Yeah Huk didn't have to go through the terrifying qualifiers, but he still the only foreigner who managed to pass some rounds in code A, then win his up and downs, then stay in code S for a long time. We tend to forget how an accomplishment this is, but just imagine if nani or thorzain managed to do that how we would worship them. (I know that the level of code A is now way higher, code A 6 months ago was full of jobbers while now it's full or scary players, but still)
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is there a way to watch it again, mist the cw, would like to see demuslims game :3
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Hero has sick sick micro from this stream. But his understanding of PvZ is slightly lacking, his macro is also not at the best yet. He said MC is probably better. But he often watch his own replay to find the reason he lost. I think he is going to be a super super sick player once he clean up his play. MC is always in the house to advise him too.
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On August 21 2011 08:31 iNcontroL wrote:
puma/huk were at IEM
Why weren't you playing?
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On August 21 2011 18:12 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 17:12 koolaid1990 wrote:On August 21 2011 16:34 Moralez wrote:On August 21 2011 14:02 KillAudio wrote:Hero > HuK. what up? Hero = Code B Huk = Code S Yep, you stand correct. Huk had it EASY. He didn't have to go through the terrifying qualifiers, which huk probably wouldn't have qualified for. He got in EASY and LUCKY through GOM invite. From there he climbed to code s, but had TERRIBLE TERRIBLE GAMES along the way, showing nothing impressive. He played like bad PVP's in the up and downs if i remember correctly Yeah Huk didn't have to go through the terrifying qualifiers, but he still the only foreigner who managed to pass some rounds in code A, then win his up and downs, then stay in code S for a long time. We tend to forget how an accomplishment this is, but just imagine if nani or thorzain managed to do that how we would worship them. (I know that the level of code A is now way higher, code A 6 months ago was full of jobbers while now it's full or scary players, but still)
You're fighting a tough fight if you're trying to discredit Huk's success. Even if we're not talking about GSL he still won Dreamhack and Homestory against hard players.
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Demuslims reapers....
I'm currently no 1 GM league on SEA with like 72-13 and HOLY FUCKING SHIT EVEN I THINK THAT'S FUCKING AMAZING.
And I guess EG decided not to run incontrol. That's ok.
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geoff was planned for ace obviously
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On August 21 2011 21:23 iaguz wrote:
Demuslims reapers....
I'm currently no 1 GM league on SEA with like 72-13 and HOLY FUCKING SHIT EVEN I THINK THAT'S FUCKING AMAZING.
And I guess EG decided not to run incontrol. That's ok.
WOW EVEN YOU ? hope demuslim sees this so he can boost his self-esteem knowing that even iaguz is amazed
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On August 21 2011 18:08 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 16:34 Moralez wrote:On August 21 2011 14:02 KillAudio wrote:Hero > HuK. what up? Hero = Code B Huk = Code S Yep, you stand correct. When MMA was in Code B, and TheBest was in Code S, would you have said the same thing?
Did you see thebest beasting in gstl last week? Hes revolutionising the game as we know it.
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