• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:25
CET 20:25
KST 04:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada3SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time? SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1710 users

[GCPL] EG vs Liquid - Page 11

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 20 Next All
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#201
On August 21 2011 02:22 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 02:20 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 21 2011 02:17 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Why doesn't anyone ever go fast muta anymore in zvz like in BW btw? I always go fast muta with a lot of spines vs roaches, I think have like 80% winrate zvz :p


"fast muta" means you won't have enough roaches or spines to defend someone going pure roach and upgrades usually

If you mean a muta switch after you are safe, it's hard to play, against roach/hydra. If they can get a nydus in your base you basically lose, and you have to be super active to pay for them, especially with killing infesters and stuff


Well yea, I go muta after I kill their initial push and the games I lose are usually because of infestors but I'm willing to take those chance for stupid zvz's :p


Like this game :p
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#202
Ret so much better
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#203
There was nothing what he could've done, it was not an early gg :p
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#204
Haha, did the commentator really refer to Nestea as that one korean guy who occasionally throws down a spire lol
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#205
On August 21 2011 02:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Wow. Idra build order loss?

No, he didn't scout. And ZvZ is the only match up that you actually can scout in LOL
SaSe fan club manager
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#206
insert hype ------------------------> [here]
Joey Wheeler
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (North)276 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#207
I've seen Idra's ladder games on zvz, he watches out for mutas quite often. I think he's just played Ret so much he's been cutting corners.
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#208
I'm not even mad about his gg, that was fine. His scouting was just really bad, sacc an overlord? Look at the gas? 3 Spines at the front should atleast send off some alarm to your brain...
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 17:51:44
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#209
looking like EG is gonna get owned today 3-1
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#210
Yup, i'm looking forward to seeing Idra in Korea to catch up in the metagame a bit. I feel like his then strong ZvZ suffered a lot.
the game is the game
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#211
That almost made me spill my drinks.
chaopow
Profile Joined March 2011
United States556 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#212
On August 21 2011 02:51 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 02:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Wow. Idra build order loss?

No, he didn't scout. And ZvZ is the only match up that you actually can scout in LOL


Yeah he really shoulda seen the 3 spines and no roaches. He shoulda knew something was up
Soowoo AD.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#213
On August 21 2011 02:29 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Has Demuslim's TvZ improved? It's his worst MU, right?

Yes it has improved. Actually it was just a relatively short time after the injury were he had serious trouble with it.
Now he is tearing up ladder again, and clan wars too it seems.

He said on his stream that he is now about equally strong in all 3 matchups.
Maybe he will stream today again, just watch it.
Off-season = best season
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#214
On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:
Ret so much better


Comments like these are just laughable...
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#215
On August 21 2011 02:51 integrity wrote:
looking like EG is gonna get owned today 3-1

probably. Hero should have this
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 17:53:24
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#216
On August 21 2011 02:50 denzelz wrote:
Has Idra play any ZvZ at all on ladder? People been doing that Muta switch in Masters for a long time now...


zenio has done that to him in NASL, so I'm sure he knows about it
you live and you learn
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#217
On August 21 2011 02:51 kusto wrote:
Yup, i'm looking forward to seeing Idra in Korea to catch up in the metagame a bit. I feel like his then strong ZvZ suffered a lot.


It has nothing to dow ith metagame, lol

IdrA and Ret are good friends, they custom each other a LOT

Idra just didn't see it, and ret doesn't go muta most of the time.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#218
On August 21 2011 02:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Wow. Idra build order loss?


Is it possible? Did I really hear a zerg went muta's vs the inevitable roaches and actually won? Who would've thought.

Seriously I'm curious as to why fast muta isn't used more in ZvZ
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#219
HerO gonna take the game against Axslav, I'm pretty sure, unless the lag is to bad for him.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#220
That was pretty bad from Idra. No roach pressure at all, late lair, of course you aren't gonna be able to scout what's going on if you never attack.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
16:00
Masters Cup #150: Group A
davetesta67
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 540
White-Ra 183
IndyStarCraft 111
UpATreeSC 102
JuggernautJason47
MindelVK 16
ForJumy 15
ProTech9
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2202
Shuttle 614
firebathero 193
Dota 2
Dendi1362
XcaliburYe146
League of Legends
rGuardiaN41
Counter-Strike
byalli1062
fl0m968
pashabiceps416
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu221
Other Games
Grubby1637
Beastyqt725
summit1g611
ceh9514
DeMusliM295
Fuzer 209
ArmadaUGS138
Trikslyr54
FunKaTv 53
QueenE36
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 6
• Adnapsc2 5
• Dystopia_ 1
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3860
• WagamamaTV680
League of Legends
• Nemesis3003
• imaqtpie1824
• TFBlade924
Other Games
• Shiphtur283
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 35m
Replay Cast
13h 35m
OSC
16h 5m
Kung Fu Cup
16h 35m
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 3h
The PondCast
1d 14h
RSL Revival
1d 14h
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
1d 16h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 16h
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
BSL 21
4 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
BSL 21
5 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.