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DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#201
On August 21 2011 02:22 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 02:20 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 21 2011 02:17 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Why doesn't anyone ever go fast muta anymore in zvz like in BW btw? I always go fast muta with a lot of spines vs roaches, I think have like 80% winrate zvz :p


"fast muta" means you won't have enough roaches or spines to defend someone going pure roach and upgrades usually

If you mean a muta switch after you are safe, it's hard to play, against roach/hydra. If they can get a nydus in your base you basically lose, and you have to be super active to pay for them, especially with killing infesters and stuff


Well yea, I go muta after I kill their initial push and the games I lose are usually because of infestors but I'm willing to take those chance for stupid zvz's :p


Like this game :p
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#202
Ret so much better
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#203
There was nothing what he could've done, it was not an early gg :p
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#204
Haha, did the commentator really refer to Nestea as that one korean guy who occasionally throws down a spire lol
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#205
On August 21 2011 02:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Wow. Idra build order loss?

No, he didn't scout. And ZvZ is the only match up that you actually can scout in LOL
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Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#206
insert hype ------------------------> [here]
Joey Wheeler
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (North)276 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#207
I've seen Idra's ladder games on zvz, he watches out for mutas quite often. I think he's just played Ret so much he's been cutting corners.
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#208
I'm not even mad about his gg, that was fine. His scouting was just really bad, sacc an overlord? Look at the gas? 3 Spines at the front should atleast send off some alarm to your brain...
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 17:51:44
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#209
looking like EG is gonna get owned today 3-1
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#210
Yup, i'm looking forward to seeing Idra in Korea to catch up in the metagame a bit. I feel like his then strong ZvZ suffered a lot.
the game is the game
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#211
That almost made me spill my drinks.
chaopow
Profile Joined March 2011
United States556 Posts
August 20 2011 17:51 GMT
#212
On August 21 2011 02:51 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 02:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Wow. Idra build order loss?

No, he didn't scout. And ZvZ is the only match up that you actually can scout in LOL


Yeah he really shoulda seen the 3 spines and no roaches. He shoulda knew something was up
Soowoo AD.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#213
On August 21 2011 02:29 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Has Demuslim's TvZ improved? It's his worst MU, right?

Yes it has improved. Actually it was just a relatively short time after the injury were he had serious trouble with it.
Now he is tearing up ladder again, and clan wars too it seems.

He said on his stream that he is now about equally strong in all 3 matchups.
Maybe he will stream today again, just watch it.
Off-season = best season
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#214
On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:
Ret so much better


Comments like these are just laughable...
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#215
On August 21 2011 02:51 integrity wrote:
looking like EG is gonna get owned today 3-1

probably. Hero should have this
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illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 17:53:24
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#216
On August 21 2011 02:50 denzelz wrote:
Has Idra play any ZvZ at all on ladder? People been doing that Muta switch in Masters for a long time now...


zenio has done that to him in NASL, so I'm sure he knows about it
you live and you learn
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#217
On August 21 2011 02:51 kusto wrote:
Yup, i'm looking forward to seeing Idra in Korea to catch up in the metagame a bit. I feel like his then strong ZvZ suffered a lot.


It has nothing to dow ith metagame, lol

IdrA and Ret are good friends, they custom each other a LOT

Idra just didn't see it, and ret doesn't go muta most of the time.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#218
On August 21 2011 02:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Wow. Idra build order loss?


Is it possible? Did I really hear a zerg went muta's vs the inevitable roaches and actually won? Who would've thought.

Seriously I'm curious as to why fast muta isn't used more in ZvZ
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#219
HerO gonna take the game against Axslav, I'm pretty sure, unless the lag is to bad for him.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
August 20 2011 17:52 GMT
#220
That was pretty bad from Idra. No roach pressure at all, late lair, of course you aren't gonna be able to scout what's going on if you never attack.
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