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On August 21 2011 02:22 DwmC_Foefen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 02:20 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 21 2011 02:17 DwmC_Foefen wrote: Why doesn't anyone ever go fast muta anymore in zvz like in BW btw? I always go fast muta with a lot of spines vs roaches, I think have like 80% winrate zvz :p "fast muta" means you won't have enough roaches or spines to defend someone going pure roach and upgrades usually If you mean a muta switch after you are safe, it's hard to play, against roach/hydra. If they can get a nydus in your base you basically lose, and you have to be super active to pay for them, especially with killing infesters and stuff Well yea, I go muta after I kill their initial push and the games I lose are usually because of infestors but I'm willing to take those chance for stupid zvz's :p
Like this game :p
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Ret so much better
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There was nothing what he could've done, it was not an early gg :p
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Haha, did the commentator really refer to Nestea as that one korean guy who occasionally throws down a spire lol
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On August 21 2011 02:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote: Wow. Idra build order loss? No, he didn't scout. And ZvZ is the only match up that you actually can scout in LOL
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insert hype ------------------------> [here]
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I've seen Idra's ladder games on zvz, he watches out for mutas quite often. I think he's just played Ret so much he's been cutting corners.
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I'm not even mad about his gg, that was fine. His scouting was just really bad, sacc an overlord? Look at the gas? 3 Spines at the front should atleast send off some alarm to your brain...
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looking like EG is gonna get owned today 3-1
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Russian Federation823 Posts
Yup, i'm looking forward to seeing Idra in Korea to catch up in the metagame a bit. I feel like his then strong ZvZ suffered a lot.
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That almost made me spill my drinks.
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On August 21 2011 02:51 Choboo wrote:No, he didn't scout. And ZvZ is the only match up that you actually can scout in LOL
Yeah he really shoulda seen the 3 spines and no roaches. He shoulda knew something was up
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On August 21 2011 02:29 Shellshock1122 wrote: Has Demuslim's TvZ improved? It's his worst MU, right? Yes it has improved. Actually it was just a relatively short time after the injury were he had serious trouble with it. Now he is tearing up ladder again, and clan wars too it seems.
He said on his stream that he is now about equally strong in all 3 matchups. Maybe he will stream today again, just watch it.
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On August 21 2011 02:51 phanto wrote:Ret so much better 
Comments like these are just laughable...
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On August 21 2011 02:51 integrity wrote: looking like EG is gonna get owned today 3-1
probably. Hero should have this
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On August 21 2011 02:50 denzelz wrote: Has Idra play any ZvZ at all on ladder? People been doing that Muta switch in Masters for a long time now...
zenio has done that to him in NASL, so I'm sure he knows about it
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On August 21 2011 02:51 kusto wrote: Yup, i'm looking forward to seeing Idra in Korea to catch up in the metagame a bit. I feel like his then strong ZvZ suffered a lot.
It has nothing to dow ith metagame, lol
IdrA and Ret are good friends, they custom each other a LOT
Idra just didn't see it, and ret doesn't go muta most of the time.
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On August 21 2011 02:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote: Wow. Idra build order loss?
Is it possible? Did I really hear a zerg went muta's vs the inevitable roaches and actually won? Who would've thought.
Seriously I'm curious as to why fast muta isn't used more in ZvZ
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HerO gonna take the game against Axslav, I'm pretty sure, unless the lag is to bad for him.
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That was pretty bad from Idra. No roach pressure at all, late lair, of course you aren't gonna be able to scout what's going on if you never attack.
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