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billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
August 20 2011 13:07 GMT
#2081
On August 20 2011 22:05 msjakofsky wrote:
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On August 20 2011 22:03 Darneck wrote:
On August 20 2011 22:02 msjakofsky wrote:
lol@"puma doesn't wish to speak, but sends this message..."

he seems like a pretty awkward guy

Just because he doesn't want to speak infront of all the people when his english skills aren't the best?


yes, just because of that. there's a translator and saying 3-4 sentences doesn't hurt any kind of man. i can see that he doesn't fancy doing it, but that's not the point

what was your point? that he seems awkward? great point, bro. very worthwhile
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 20 2011 13:07 GMT
#2082
On August 20 2011 22:06 Shinobi1982 wrote:
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On August 20 2011 22:01 zYwi3c wrote:
Crowd at IEM is terrible. Cheering only for German players ;/ Kinda sad.

This.
Same with Khaldor's casting if a German is playing, he is 200% biased. He knows it, he will not deny it and he will not care about it one bit, lol.

Kinda sad.

i agree for some actually. especially take shouldn't cheer up socke, let that do other people.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
August 20 2011 13:07 GMT
#2083
On August 20 2011 22:06 Jayjay54 wrote:
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On August 20 2011 22:03 ptbl wrote:
Not impressed with German fans. Compared to MLG fans they seemed very lackluster.


it's not a pure SC2 event. if you watched HSC3 you'd know that we are awesome


Yeah you can´t compare it with MLG.
Fans go to MLG just for StarCraft, but at Gamescom there are so many people just randomly sitting down at the IEM booth.
The Fans that came to HSC3 just for Sc2 were awesome
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
August 20 2011 13:08 GMT
#2084
On August 20 2011 22:03 ptbl wrote:
Not impressed with German fans. Compared to MLG fans they seemed very lackluster.

If you watched nearly any pro interview, they all even the European ones, say that European fans are more reserved. I do not find it bad, probably because I am European, I actually find American fans to be over the top.
DoubleDouble
Profile Joined August 2011
United States106 Posts
August 20 2011 13:08 GMT
#2085
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 20 2011 21:56 sleepingdog wrote:
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On August 20 2011 21:54 SoSexy wrote:
Socke completely outplayed. I love the fanboys that after game 1 said 'it was only luck'


So? Game 1 was Socke's game to lose, which he did. Either you are trolling, or you really don't know what you are talking about.

Puma didn't do anything spectacular at all, it was basicly Socke making stupid, unnecessary mistakes. God, this "outplayed", "outclassed" makes me rage right now. Stop it, ffs.


youre such a fanboy and in complete denial. puma's play was on a completely different level and he had him beat in almost every way possible. socke maybe came out on top of an engagement once, which didn't really matter anyway. think before your fanboyism takes over. and rage all you want because in reality he was outplayed and outclassed.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 13:11:10
August 20 2011 13:08 GMT
#2086
On August 20 2011 22:06 RotterdaM wrote:
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On August 20 2011 21:59 sleepingdog wrote:
As I said, Rotterdam made the completely wrong call, Socke was expecting 111 in 2nd game. I really don't want to seem hating right now, but damn Rotti, you are better than that...


I find it very very unlikely that anyone expects 1-1-1 on Terminus Cross map ;P aint really steppes of war , i missed the socke iview but if he said so then I apologize for making a mistake :D but it won't be the last time I'm wrong either ;P nobody is always right Puma was indeed faking it a little bit with the bunker and stuff, but I still wouldnt expect it

Hoped you guys had fun though, unfortunately not the super close semi's we expected, let's hope the Finals are going to be legendary^^


Again, hopefully you don't think I want to hate on you, I follow your casting since warcraft 3

I was much more annoyed because many people claimed for pages that Puma "outplayed" Socke in the 2nd game, which wasn't really the case.

EDIT: this is what I'm talking about
On August 20 2011 22:08 DoubleDouble wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 20 2011 21:56 sleepingdog wrote:
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On August 20 2011 21:54 SoSexy wrote:
Socke completely outplayed. I love the fanboys that after game 1 said 'it was only luck'


So? Game 1 was Socke's game to lose, which he did. Either you are trolling, or you really don't know what you are talking about.

Puma didn't do anything spectacular at all, it was basicly Socke making stupid, unnecessary mistakes. God, this "outplayed", "outclassed" makes me rage right now. Stop it, ffs.


youre such a fanboy and in complete denial. puma's play was on a completely different level and he had him beat in almost every way possible. socke maybe came out on top of an engagement once, which didn't really matter anyway. think before your fanboyism takes over. and rage all you want because in reality he was outplayed and outclassed.


"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Bonzinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia862 Posts
August 20 2011 13:08 GMT
#2087
Rotti your awesome! i enjoyed your casting at dreamhuk and here its even better! Keep it up!
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
August 20 2011 13:09 GMT
#2088
On August 20 2011 22:07 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:05 msjakofsky wrote:
On August 20 2011 22:03 Darneck wrote:
On August 20 2011 22:02 msjakofsky wrote:
lol@"puma doesn't wish to speak, but sends this message..."

he seems like a pretty awkward guy

Just because he doesn't want to speak infront of all the people when his english skills aren't the best?


yes, just because of that. there's a translator and saying 3-4 sentences doesn't hurt any kind of man. i can see that he doesn't fancy doing it, but that's not the point

what was your point? that he seems awkward? great point, bro. very worthwhile


just about as worthwhile as you telling me that my point is not worthwhile

typing 30 letters is not really exhausting you see
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
August 20 2011 13:09 GMT
#2089
On August 20 2011 22:08 mcc wrote:
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On August 20 2011 22:03 ptbl wrote:
Not impressed with German fans. Compared to MLG fans they seemed very lackluster.

If you watched nearly any pro interview, they all even the European ones, say that European fans are more reserved. I do not find it bad, probably because I am European, I actually find American fans to be over the top.

they seemed to be cheering just fine for the loser socke
I understand bias but at least give some excitement and glory to the winner. i'm not that guy who complains in every LR thread. in fact I never do but the crowd has sucked a lot of excitement and hype out of the tournament. I watch these tournaments for the excitement
x1r0
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria156 Posts
August 20 2011 13:09 GMT
#2090
the crowd is tired.. because they have to stand in queues for 4+ hours to play 10 mins of diablo 3 and mass effect 3 :>
düdelü!
morbvs
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 13:12:07
August 20 2011 13:10 GMT
#2091
On August 20 2011 22:03 ptbl wrote:
Not impressed with German fans. Compared to MLG fans they seemed very lackluster.


Yeah. But gamescom is not a SC2 Lan but world's biggest trade fair for video game related stuff. Many of the guys in the audience probably are not even sc2 fans. When I visit Cebit the IEM booth is one of the very few places where you actually are able to sit down and I guess that'S not much different at gamescom. And many use that since it's quite tiresome to walk all those halls the whole day.
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.
khazgore
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway104 Posts
August 20 2011 13:11 GMT
#2092
How long until mc vs puma starts??
rareh
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal298 Posts
August 20 2011 13:11 GMT
#2093
On August 20 2011 22:09 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:08 mcc wrote:
On August 20 2011 22:03 ptbl wrote:
Not impressed with German fans. Compared to MLG fans they seemed very lackluster.

If you watched nearly any pro interview, they all even the European ones, say that European fans are more reserved. I do not find it bad, probably because I am European, I actually find American fans to be over the top.

they seemed to be cheering just fine for the loser socke
I understand bias but at least give some excitement and glory to the winner. i'm not that guy who complains in every LR thread. in fact I never do but the crowd has sucked a lot of excitement and hype out of the tournament. I watch these tournaments for the excitement


At least they don't boo the halo reach winners... have never seen such disrespectful crowd.
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
August 20 2011 13:11 GMT
#2094
On August 20 2011 22:06 Shinobi1982 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:01 zYwi3c wrote:
Crowd at IEM is terrible. Cheering only for German players ;/ Kinda sad.

This.
Same with Khaldor's casting if a German is playing, he is 200% biased. He knows it, he will not deny it and he will not care about it one bit, lol.

Kinda sad.

I fail to see what's sad about that. Not only is it awesome to listen to if you're cheering for the same player, khaldor casting a player i like always gives me nerdchills, it's also better to be honest about your bias instead of trying to cover it up and probably failing at that.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
August 20 2011 13:11 GMT
#2095
On August 20 2011 22:06 Radook wrote:
Only way Puma would have avoided MC in the semifinals was to win agaist MaNa since winners wasnt matched agaist each other.

That is actually wrong, as the bracket was made randomly after group stages. He could have won the group and still meet MC in the finals.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
August 20 2011 13:11 GMT
#2096
On August 20 2011 22:11 khazgore wrote:
How long until mc vs puma starts??


about a day
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
August 20 2011 13:12 GMT
#2097
On August 20 2011 22:11 rareh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:09 billyX333 wrote:
On August 20 2011 22:08 mcc wrote:
On August 20 2011 22:03 ptbl wrote:
Not impressed with German fans. Compared to MLG fans they seemed very lackluster.

If you watched nearly any pro interview, they all even the European ones, say that European fans are more reserved. I do not find it bad, probably because I am European, I actually find American fans to be over the top.

they seemed to be cheering just fine for the loser socke
I understand bias but at least give some excitement and glory to the winner. i'm not that guy who complains in every LR thread. in fact I never do but the crowd has sucked a lot of excitement and hype out of the tournament. I watch these tournaments for the excitement


At least they don't boo the halo reach winners... have never seen such disrespectful crowd.

I agree. booing is bad and i think MLG should have a no-booing policy and auto ban anybody who boos anybody at any of their events but that is completely beside the point
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
August 20 2011 13:13 GMT
#2098
On August 20 2011 22:11 khazgore wrote:
How long until mc vs puma starts??


26 hours 15 mins :D
I'm getting the derection.
Nightkaira
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore412 Posts
August 20 2011 13:13 GMT
#2099
Frankly, its more of Socke's mistakes than Puma's outclassing him. Socke just got punished for the mistakes he made. Period.
humbre
Profile Joined August 2011
353 Posts
August 20 2011 13:13 GMT
#2100
On August 20 2011 22:04 sleepingdog wrote:
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On August 20 2011 22:00 Montana[TK] wrote:
On August 20 2011 21:59 sleepingdog wrote:
As I said, Rotterdam made the completely wrong call, Socke was expecting 111 in 2nd game. I really don't want to seem hating right now, but damn Rotti, you are better than that...


try commentating, observing and making right calls at the same time, it is hard as shit. Seriously DL Fraps and do it, it's HARD, 99% of the commentator bashing is ignorant bullshit.


I really don't want to be misunderstood on this one. It's completely natural to not always catch each detail, each drop, and so on.

But the 2nd game was casted wrong. Socke didn't expect an expand-build but blind-countered a 111 all-in. This is why he built early robo, this is why he built a useless immortal, this is why he cut probes. Consequently, this is why he ended up being behind.

And THEN come the clueless people and write about how Puma "outclassed" Socke, just because he made a wrong read. It's not about caster-hate, but people ought to realize why Socke was behind basicly the whole game. Puma tricked Socke by building the bunker, that was the crucial moment in the game. Please realize that I love Rotterdam's casting, it just annoyed me that the LR-thread was flooded with people screeming how much better Puma is, when in fact all he did the 2nd game was trick Socke into a inferior build.


no offense but he got outplayed that game, it seriously looked like puma wanted him to think it was 111 (he did make that bunker up the ramp for a reason), he even moved his 3 marines back and let socke's probe to see theres no expansion, mind games are part of the game and if you fail to read your opponent you often lose the game

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