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ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
August 20 2011 13:23 GMT
#2121
On August 20 2011 22:20 Hermanus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:14 radiantshadow92 wrote:
Foreigners need to step their game up!


Foreigners should do whatever the fuck they want.

They want to win.
Hi!
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
August 20 2011 13:24 GMT
#2122
On August 20 2011 22:21 DoubleDouble wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 20 2011 22:18 JayJay_90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:15 DoubleDouble wrote:
I was much more annoyed because many people claimed for pages that Puma "outplayed" Socke in the 2nd game, which wasn't really the case.



i wasnt talking about just the 2nd game. overall puma looked like and is the stronger and better player. hes on a whole different level.

i (and i guess pretty much every socke fanboy) agree that puma is on a different level. that still doesn't mean he outclassed socke in every game. he definitely didn't in game 1.



do you know what overall means?

Yes and i don't get why you ask.
On August 20 2011 22:18 JayJay_90 wrote:
that still doesn't mean he outclassed socke in every game. he definitely didn't in game 1.

that didn't refer to your post specifically, but to all the guys making that statement.
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
August 20 2011 13:25 GMT
#2123
Are there gonan be more sc2 games today? it says Kaz vs strelok 17:00, are they gonna play and why?
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
August 20 2011 13:25 GMT
#2124
So, is the final today or tomorrow? Schedule says tomorrow, lots of people saying today. Which is it?
bajabaja
Profile Joined September 2010
245 Posts
August 20 2011 13:26 GMT
#2125
Are there any ways to catch the rerun of semis tonight?
hi.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
August 20 2011 13:26 GMT
#2126
On August 20 2011 22:25 Bumblebees wrote:
So, is the final today or tomorrow? Schedule says tomorrow, lots of people saying today. Which is it?

Tomorrow
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
August 20 2011 13:28 GMT
#2127
Do you know when White-Ra vs Puma is going to be casted?
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
DoubleDouble
Profile Joined August 2011
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 13:28:25
August 20 2011 13:28 GMT
#2128
On August 20 2011 22:24 JayJay_90 wrote:
i (and i guess pretty much every socke fanboy) agree that puma is on a different level. that still doesn't mean he outclassed socke in every game. he definitely didn't in game 1.


if he is on a different level, isnt that what outclassed means?
out·class (out-kls)
tr.v. out·classed, out·class·ing, out·class·es
To surpass decisively, so as to appear of a higher class.

if he is on a different level, isn't he in that of a higher class?

and i also asked if you knew what overall meant cause you were dissecting games one by one. i said overall puma was the stronger player.
illelement
Profile Joined August 2011
United States4 Posts
August 20 2011 13:28 GMT
#2129
There wasn't ever a time for Puma to show "spectacular" plays because of the fact that Socke was just playing so poorly in comparison.

Build order losses is one thing but making mistakes and having your opponent take clear advantage of them is definitely a case in point of what defines the meaning of being outclassed, especially when the series is a sweep.
Almisael
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 13:35:42
August 20 2011 13:31 GMT
#2130
On August 20 2011 22:25 MadNeSs wrote:
Are there gonan be more sc2 games today? it says Kaz vs strelok 17:00, are they gonna play and why?


There will be another SC2 game today scheduled for 5PM CEST

Strelok vs Kas which is the Finals of the Sennheiser Cup 2011.
1. 2.000€
2. 1.000€
3. Stephano + 400€
iamlafore
Profile Joined July 2011
Japan40 Posts
August 20 2011 13:32 GMT
#2131
On August 20 2011 22:22 niewGuy wrote:
It sucks this is just SE bracket. MaNa obviously deserves the 2nd place. MC > MaNA > PuMa > Socke


Yeah... no. When will these kids learn.
Amai.
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2581 Posts
August 20 2011 13:34 GMT
#2132
On August 20 2011 22:31 Almisael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:25 MadNeSs wrote:
Are there gonan be more sc2 games today? it says Kaz vs strelok 17:00, are they gonna play and why?


There will be another SC2 game today scheduled for 5PM CEST

Strelok vs Kas which is the Finals of the Sennheiser Cup 2011.
1. 2.000€
2. 1.000€
3. Stephano 400€

I laughed when I read that. I get it now but my brain's initial understanding was that the tournament's prize distribution was actually just set up so Stephano gets €400.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Everhate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States640 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 13:35:13
August 20 2011 13:34 GMT
#2133
On August 20 2011 22:34 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:31 Almisael wrote:
On August 20 2011 22:25 MadNeSs wrote:
Are there gonan be more sc2 games today? it says Kaz vs strelok 17:00, are they gonna play and why?


There will be another SC2 game today scheduled for 5PM CEST

Strelok vs Kas which is the Finals of the Sennheiser Cup 2011.
1. 2.000€
2. 1.000€
3. Stephano 400€

I laughed when I read that. I get it now but my brain's initial understanding was that the tournament's prize distribution was actually just set up so Stephano gets €400.


3rd place prize was actually Stephano + 400€, clearly 3rd place has the best prize :p
Almisael
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 13:38:23
August 20 2011 13:36 GMT
#2134
On August 20 2011 22:34 Everhate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:34 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On August 20 2011 22:31 Almisael wrote:
On August 20 2011 22:25 MadNeSs wrote:
Are there gonan be more sc2 games today? it says Kaz vs strelok 17:00, are they gonna play and why?


There will be another SC2 game today scheduled for 5PM CEST

Strelok vs Kas which is the Finals of the Sennheiser Cup 2011.
1. 2.000€
2. 1.000€
3. Stephano 400€

I laughed when I read that. I get it now but my brain's initial understanding was that the tournament's prize distribution was actually just set up so Stephano gets €400.


3rd place prize was actually Stephano + 400€, clearly 3rd place has the best prize :p


no problem. i edited my post to make it more comprehensible, just for you!
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
August 20 2011 13:37 GMT
#2135
The OP hasn't been edited, is it Puma v MC finals?
Radook
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden326 Posts
August 20 2011 13:38 GMT
#2136
On August 20 2011 22:37 schmutttt wrote:
The OP hasn't been edited, is it Puma v MC finals?


Yes tomorrow
Woop Woop!
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
August 20 2011 13:39 GMT
#2137
On August 20 2011 22:38 Radook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:37 schmutttt wrote:
The OP hasn't been edited, is it Puma v MC finals?


Yes tomorrow


ty
iamlafore
Profile Joined July 2011
Japan40 Posts
August 20 2011 13:39 GMT
#2138
On August 20 2011 22:00 hrvoje07 wrote:
Why are they bringing these top koreans? Honestly, i like MC but its boring to watch him dominate like this. IMHO they should bring out medium level code S players like Coca,clide,alive,alicia etc.

Only few foreigners can beat top koreans, and only in certain matchups in series not longer than bo3 and on a good day

note: dont say puma isnt code s quality pls, he obviously is



Genius man. As soon as you put in enough WORK to get to that high level we should totally stop inviting you to tournaments. I mean who wants to reward hard work with 1st/2nd place prize money amirite? We should totally encourage half-assed work ethic/strategy by capping the skill level of who gets invited to major tournaments.

Grow up.
Amai.
neocron
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom505 Posts
August 20 2011 13:40 GMT
#2139
You can watch the XMG Cup third place match between:
Strelok and Dimaga
casted by drool
http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_hdstream/
Xercen
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom375 Posts
August 20 2011 13:40 GMT
#2140
On August 20 2011 22:04 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:00 Montana[TK] wrote:
On August 20 2011 21:59 sleepingdog wrote:
As I said, Rotterdam made the completely wrong call, Socke was expecting 111 in 2nd game. I really don't want to seem hating right now, but damn Rotti, you are better than that...


try commentating, observing and making right calls at the same time, it is hard as shit. Seriously DL Fraps and do it, it's HARD, 99% of the commentator bashing is ignorant bullshit.


I really don't want to be misunderstood on this one. It's completely natural to not always catch each detail, each drop, and so on.

But the 2nd game was casted wrong. Socke didn't expect an expand-build but blind-countered a 111 all-in. This is why he built early robo, this is why he built a useless immortal, this is why he cut probes. Consequently, this is why he ended up being behind.

And THEN come the clueless people and write about how Puma "outclassed" Socke, just because he made a wrong read. It's not about caster-hate, but people ought to realize why Socke was behind basicly the whole game. Puma tricked Socke by building the bunker, that was the crucial moment in the game. Please realize that I love Rotterdam's casting, it just annoyed me that the LR-thread was flooded with people screeming how much better Puma is, when in fact all he did the 2nd game was trick Socke into a inferior build.


lol and u say being smart and tricking him into an inferior build doesn't mean puma is a better player?

puma 3-0 socke and mc 3-0 mana. They are better players.


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