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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On August 17 2011 20:31 arQ wrote: I´ll stop the 1-1-1 discussion with this post. All I wanted to say was that we have seen so many builds/aggressions/all-ins during the last year that for a while was "unbeatable". MKP´s 2rax was unbeatable, as was the roach all-in. Until someone learned to counter it properly. The 1-1-1 is no difference, thats all im saying. Now lets enjoy the games. There's one important difference, and this isn't me saying the build is overpowered, yet. All of these builds that you mention were powerful because you couldn't scout them early enough, and commiting to a defence made you fall behind if the opponent was doing something else. There was never a real issue with stopping the 2 rax all-in, but with being safe against it while still being economically even with a 2 rax CC. Similarly, stopping the roach/ling all-in is easy if you know it's coming - the problem Protosses faced was that there was no good way to scout it, and blindly preparing for it would leave you behind against a Zerg just making drones. Against the 1/1/1, Protosses know it's coming, do builds they believe should be optimal, and still get rolled by Terrans with mediocre execution. That's the problem, you can't even theorycraft a consistent response, much less apply one in an actual game. | ||
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myzael
Poland605 Posts
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sOda~
United Kingdom441 Posts
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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myzael
Poland605 Posts
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zYwi3c
Poland1811 Posts
On August 17 2011 20:37 DoubleB wrote: He is studying it :-) Becoz you cannot be a teacher with 24 (well maybe it's possible, but I do not think he is already a teacher) At 24 u can be a teacher. Well, i heard that some other casters couple weeks ago said that Socke is an english teacher. Not sure though. | ||
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PeggyHill
1494 Posts
On August 17 2011 20:39 Toadvine wrote: There's one important difference, and this isn't me saying the build is overpowered, yet. All of these builds that you mention were powerful because you couldn't scout them early enough, and commiting to a defence made you fall behind if the opponent was doing something else. There was never a real issue with stopping the 2 rax all-in, but with being safe against it while still being economically even with a 2 rax CC. Similarly, stopping the roach/ling all-in is easy if you know it's coming - the problem Protosses faced was that there was no good way to scout it, and blindly preparing for it would leave you behind against a Zerg just making drones. Against the 1/1/1, Protosses know it's coming, do builds they believe should be optimal, and still get rolled by Terrans with mediocre execution. That's the problem, you can't even theorycraft a consistent response, much less apply one in an actual game. TBH opening phoenix is the response. Shuts down the banshees. Still very hard to hold however. The problem is that opening phoenix isn't very strong vs many terran openings. | ||
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
On August 17 2011 20:37 DoubleB wrote: He is studying it :-) Becoz you cannot be a teacher with 24 (well maybe it's possible, but I do not think he is already a teacher) why not? You can totally be a teacher in the states at 24. 4 years uni (you can get certified at most large universities). Maybe an extra year doing regional certification and you're set. 18+5=23 | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On August 17 2011 20:39 myzael wrote: I disliked the decision to add multiple raxes after expand instead of teching to starport. Socke exploited it perfectly. You have to add raxes after gasless expand or you can die to even light 3gate expand pressure. He should've seen the lack of sentries (=not 3gate) and teched faster though. He misread the situation/scouted badly and got countered hard. | ||
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SedativeDev
Slovenia316 Posts
That explains a lot :D | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
Foreigners depress me :< | ||
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enslaved[t]
Norway46 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + All this talk about casters got me thinking. With Tastosis, Day9, Husky and JP casting at the next MLG event, I reckon Day9 and Husky are going to be casting some games together. Can't help but think that that would be the worst commentator mix ever. Just venting my concern. Now, please carry on with the games  | ||
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Nesto
Switzerland1318 Posts
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rtsAlaran
Germany383 Posts
On August 17 2011 20:42 Jacobs Ladder wrote: why not? You can totally be a teacher in the states at 24. 4 years uni (you can get certified at most large universities). Maybe an extra year doing regional certification and you're set. 18+5=23 But in Germany its more like: 13years of school, ~4.5years (at least i think) at university + 1year military service inbetween  unless he skipped classes he should be studying still back to the game: lets see how Nex first on Terminus plays out if you have more luck with terrans scouting path as P gogo Socke! | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On August 17 2011 20:45 Nesto wrote: yeah, socke saw 10 marines but has no idea what dieStar has =) He knows he has a couple of raxes, that's all. He has no idea if he has a CC or 7 raxes or what. SCV/marine allin - even with diestar's CC, would've demolished Socke. Sad. | ||
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Muesli_
Germany83 Posts
On August 17 2011 20:42 Jacobs Ladder wrote: why not? You can totally be a teacher in the states at 24. 4 years uni (you can get certified at most large universities). Maybe an extra year doing regional certification and you're set. 18+5=23 first of all you can start your studies in germany at age 20. you also have to do a "referendariat" for two years after you studied at the university which is a period of time comparable to an internship. | ||
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
On August 17 2011 20:45 enslaved[t] wrote: Off Topic + Show Spoiler + All this talk about casters got me thinking. With Tastosis, Day9, Husky and JP casting at the next MLG event, I reckon Day9 and Husky are going be casting some games together. Can't help but think that that would be the worst commentator mix ever. Just venting my concern. Now, please carry on with the games watch tsl and pax team liquid event and gspa, there are mass games of those two together | ||
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FinnGamer
Germany2426 Posts
On August 17 2011 20:46 rtsAlaran wrote: But in Germany its more like: 13years of school, ~4.5years (at least i think) at university + 1year military service inbetween unless he skipped classes he should be studying still With the New German school system (G8), you can be a teacher with 23-24, you make your ABI with 17 and then study till 21 + 2 years Internship, which makes you a 23 year old teacher | ||
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Muesli_
Germany83 Posts
On August 17 2011 20:48 FinnGamer wrote: With the New German school system (G8), you can be a teacher with 23-24, you make your ABI with 17 and then study till 21 + 2 years Internship, which makes you a 23 year old teacher wrong. you graduate with 18 unless you skipped a year. also you have to do a referendariat. | ||
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