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On August 13 2011 11:47 Scila wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 11:41 MrCon wrote:
Thor has a macro problem in TvZ which he doesn't have in TvT and TvP. A lot of people do. TvZ is just such a different match-up. In TvT and TvP you don't have to constantly pressure your opponent and worry about his economy. In TvZ if you don't slow it down, you just get absolutely crushed and can't come back.
I know. I think having played the ASM style for months (marines raven with 10 reactored raxes) has helped my TvZ macro a lot, because know I always make too much raxes even without playing this style, and Thorzain in this serie didn't have enough raxes. He had 2 raxes at one point which is very little vZ, even early.
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On August 13 2011 11:56 Elefanto wrote: If he doesn't run into mana, he has a great shot to take it.
There is no way he can avoid Mana if he wants to win.^^
On August 13 2011 11:55 Fighter wrote:
Man, Nerchio has turned into a monster. The dude's put up some impressive wins before, but no big tournament finishes, I believe.
Could this be his shot?
He didn't really participate in many big tournaments yet. (bnet eu invitational was his first big event)
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On August 13 2011 11:56 Elefanto wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 11:55 Fighter wrote:
Man, Nerchio has turned into a monster. The dude's put up some impressive wins before, but no big tournament finishes, I believe.
Could this be his shot? If he doesn't run into mana, he has a great shot to take it.
Lol? How could he NOT run into Mana? Even if he gets "lucky" and gets White-Ra next, then he'll just have to play Mana in the finals.
Also, I'm curious why you think Mana would be his achilles heel.
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On August 13 2011 11:59 Fighter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 11:56 Elefanto wrote:On August 13 2011 11:55 Fighter wrote:
Man, Nerchio has turned into a monster. The dude's put up some impressive wins before, but no big tournament finishes, I believe.
Could this be his shot? If he doesn't run into mana, he has a great shot to take it. Lol? How could he NOT run into Mana? Even if he gets "lucky" and gets White-Ra next, then he'll just have to play Mana in the finals. Also, I'm curious why you think Mana would be his achilles heel.
Didn't know the bracket sorry.
But his ZvP is his worst match-up, and mana is beasting it up in ZvP lately.
If anyone takes nerchio down, it'll be mana.
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On August 13 2011 12:01 Elefanto wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 11:59 Fighter wrote:On August 13 2011 11:56 Elefanto wrote:On August 13 2011 11:55 Fighter wrote:
Man, Nerchio has turned into a monster. The dude's put up some impressive wins before, but no big tournament finishes, I believe.
Could this be his shot? If he doesn't run into mana, he has a great shot to take it. Lol? How could he NOT run into Mana? Even if he gets "lucky" and gets White-Ra next, then he'll just have to play Mana in the finals. Also, I'm curious why you think Mana would be his achilles heel. Didn't know the bracket sorry. But his ZvP is his worst match-up, and mana is beasting it up in ZvP lately. If anyone takes nerchio down, it'll be mana.
Yeah, Mana's been destroying people left and right. I think Mana will take it all, but I'm giving Nerchio a decent chance to at least face him after barely beating White-Ra.
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On August 13 2011 12:08 yoshi245 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 12:01 Elefanto wrote:On August 13 2011 11:59 Fighter wrote:On August 13 2011 11:56 Elefanto wrote:On August 13 2011 11:55 Fighter wrote:
Man, Nerchio has turned into a monster. The dude's put up some impressive wins before, but no big tournament finishes, I believe.
Could this be his shot? If he doesn't run into mana, he has a great shot to take it. Lol? How could he NOT run into Mana? Even if he gets "lucky" and gets White-Ra next, then he'll just have to play Mana in the finals. Also, I'm curious why you think Mana would be his achilles heel. Didn't know the bracket sorry. But his ZvP is his worst match-up, and mana is beasting it up in ZvP lately. If anyone takes nerchio down, it'll be mana. Yeah, Mana's been destroying people left and right. I think Mana will take it all, but I'm giving Nerchio a decent chance to at least face him after barely beating White-Ra.
It was nerchio's first lan, I mean the kid was visibly nervous with shaky voice and all in his first interview. Online I think nerchio could take mana.
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On August 13 2011 11:06 Whiteman103 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 10:58 Xercen wrote:
nerchio is good but his zvp sucks...he was 2-0 by naniwa at the european battlenet 2011 gezz people need ot stop using 1 result from 1 tourny as someone is bad at something. nobody has a 100% rate and Yes idrA lost and zvz is super volatile. aside from Nestea who seems to never lose. Everybody loses around 35-50% of the time.
True no one wins 100%, but it's one thing to lose and another to be 3-0'd...
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No gg is etter than "fuck you" :D
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Nerchio really impressed the hell out of me. Things really came undone quickly for Idra 6 losses in a row.
Would be happy with either of these 3 players winning, but I hope Nerchio can fight through the loser bracket like a hero and win.
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On August 13 2011 13:26 Nick_54 wrote:
Nerchio really impressed the hell out of me. Things really came undone quickly for Idra 6 losses in a row.
Would be happy with either of these 3 players winning, but I hope Nerchio can fight through the loser bracket like a hero and win.
5 losses. 3 vs mana, 2 vs Nerchio. I hope it will be 6 losses lolol
He must be MAD.
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game 3 was fast, baneling wars I guess?
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Not gonna lie I'm happy Idra lost after being such a jerk. Not a single GG after getting straight up out played. Does this mean that zerg is OP now...wait a second here...
Anyways jokes aside Idra isn't dumb every time he is an ass and BMs and cries and whines he gets more views. Whether you tune in to see him win and play like a champ or you tune in to see him get crushed and BM, doesn't really matter to him if you're a fan ,or a hater he still gets paid.
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Nerchio is such a freaking BEAST.
I've been a fan for a long time, I hope this guy gets to perform at some in-person events soon. He's sooooooo underrated.
Idra is getting to be such a tool. What was wrong with Nerchio's play in any of those games? He beat Idra in every different way there is. Not GGing after those games is really pathetic. It's ZvZ ffs, anyone that drones to 90 before building a unit is retarded, not manner. Classic Idra though, doesn't understand the game at all.
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On August 13 2011 13:41 fant0m wrote:
Nerchio is such a freaking BEAST.
I've been a fan for a long time, I hope this guy gets to perform at some in-person events soon. He's sooooooo underrated.
Idra is getting to be such a tool. What was wrong with Nerchio's play in any of those games? He beat Idra in every different way there is. Not GGing after those games is really pathetic. It's ZvZ ffs, anyone that drones to 90 before building a unit is retarded, not manner. Classic Idra though, doesn't understand the game at all.
He doesn't gg because he doesn't fucking want to, not because he thinks Nerchio is bad.
He pretty much ONLY ggs when tourneys force him to.
It's a triviality to him, something forced by expectations, therefor it has no meaning.
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On August 13 2011 11:59 PhiLtheFisH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 11:56 Elefanto wrote: If he doesn't run into mana, he has a great shot to take it. There is no way he can avoid Mana if he wants to win.^^ Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 11:55 Fighter wrote:
Man, Nerchio has turned into a monster. The dude's put up some impressive wins before, but no big tournament finishes, I believe.
Could this be his shot? He didn't really participate in many big tournaments yet. (bnet eu invitational was his first big event)
Wat. What about that Dailymotion cup by ESL with a €2,000 prize where he murdered everybody and 4-0'ed morrow in the finals -_-
Or the shoutcraft invitational with an $800 final. Go through his game history on TLPD. He murders top players in cups for a living.
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Aw why do they already put on the results spoiler the results for the next game from today before it went live? -.- Didn`t thought they`d do such thing, x=
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On August 13 2011 04:34 lolsixtynine wrote:
I rather doubt Nerchio will beat IdrA. I still think IdrA's got the best ZvZ outside of Korea (except Sen, but he's effectively playing as a Korean). ThorZain's just the stronger player and should win 3-0 or 3-1.
Think again mate
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On August 13 2011 13:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
He doesn't gg because he doesn't fucking want to, not because he thinks Nerchio is bad.
He pretty much ONLY ggs when tourneys force him to.
It's a triviality to him, something forced by expectations, therefor it has no meaning.
It's insulting.
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On August 13 2011 14:06 fant0m wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 13:42 SafeAsCheese wrote:
He doesn't gg because he doesn't fucking want to, not because he thinks Nerchio is bad.
He pretty much ONLY ggs when tourneys force him to.
It's a triviality to him, something forced by expectations, therefor it has no meaning. It's insulting.
and tourneys don't force you to....that would be stupid....he only GG's when it's someone he knows and likes...not even if its a "Good Game" but anyways....maybe next time
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