EPT[GSL] Aug Code A RO32 Day 3 - Page 316
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Vul
United States685 Posts
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Lt.Roosevelt
Sweden84 Posts
On August 11 2011 01:47 Xercen wrote: i think mvp won anaheim not by studying opponents but by being amazing. It was the same for everyone at Anaheim though, not MVP being unprepared and the others having had time to prepare only for MVP, so not the same thing at all. That being said, MVP is amazing and noone is saying with preparation Nani or Thorzain should win against MVP. Everyone knows the koreans are better, some were just hoping the best foreigners would do decently against the lower tier koreans. I think what a lot of people are saying is that with the same last week or so preparation for both sides this day would have looked different. Now I don't know if the foreigners could have done any better had they had time to prepare, had they not been jetlagged, had they all not faced Zerg which is by far the worst matchup for all of them, but in the end it doesn't really matter. They lost and it sucks, I just hope they all learn from it, STAY in Korea for more than one month and work their asses off just like the koreans do because like so many here have already mentioned, the koreans are not better because they are Koreans, they are better because of how and how much they practice. These foreigners all have great potential and if they want to reach their peak, the korean way is the only way imo. As a side note, whether it is a balance thing or not protoss, foreigner and korean alike are looking pretty pitiful atm imo, I really hope they can find a way to get back into the game soon. | ||
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uLysSeS1
Germany210 Posts
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StarcraftKevin
United States285 Posts
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stlh2opolo
United States189 Posts
On August 11 2011 02:10 Vul wrote: I really hope that Thorzain or another foreigner stays for longer than a month. Especially after watching this, I just don't know if a month long crash course in the Korean scene is going to be enough. Agree with this so much. You cannot reap the full benefits of the Korean scene by staying there only for a month. You have to be there for at least 2 weeks of getting your ass kicked before you can even start to improve. | ||
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Xercen
United Kingdom375 Posts
On August 11 2011 02:02 Ventor wrote: I really hope you're not serious. Progamers do not play the campaign and base their race off of that. That is the most retarded accusation I have ever heard for the reason for terran dominance. And don't base balance on the actual winners of GSL's. It should be based on overall performance of the races. i didn't say all progamers do that but some progamers don't have BW experience but they just played sc2 and loved it and picked terran due to campaign or other reasons. also i can sense protoss bias here. huk won homestory cup and dreamhack and there were quite a few protoss finals out there. usually most tournaments are dominated by terrans because of the sheer number and skill of them. i play zerg and i don't complain when there were 5 terrans in the top 5 at mlg anaheim because they all played pretty sick. how about you start watching the games and see the skill level of mma and mvp and nestea then you can see how far those guys are above the rest. also ogsmc would prolly have qualified for r16 if he didn't have a deathwish and wanna play mvp in the group stages. making a dumb move like that playing mvp who everybody wants to avoid is just asking to get knocked out. also it's a shame that mvp picked polt then noblessed got picked. in any tournament you don't wanna be facing best players in the first round because although nestea is at the top imo, the skill level between nestea mvp mma and mc is very slight that in a bo3/5/7 anybody out of those 4 can win if matched up against each other. picking mvp in a bo1 group stage match was a deathwish for mc. so stop crying about lack of protosses cause game is balanced...mc just wanted to die | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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Diabolegal
United States110 Posts
On August 11 2011 02:20 stlh2opolo wrote: Agree with this so much. You cannot reap the full benefits of the Korean scene by staying there only for a month. You have to be there for at least 2 weeks of getting your ass kicked before you can even start to improve. You must've meant "2 months." | ||
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On August 11 2011 02:44 Zeroxk wrote: I see most of the recommended games polls say no, is this foreigner bias or were the games just bad? They were all pretty bad. If you want to watch some games, Jinro's second game was very tense, and Thorzain game 1 was nice + Show Spoiler + (except for the extremely long stay by Yugioh at the end) | ||
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Cush
United States646 Posts
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Seiniyta
Belgium1815 Posts
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
On August 11 2011 01:21 Finrod1 wrote: I just finished watching these "games" today.... it was so so one sided. Only the first thorzain game obviously but both games after that thorzain didn't stand a chance. GSL needs to stop giving codeA spots to foreigners. They simply do not deserve any of those spots. I feel really really bad for all the better korean players they didnt get a spot because of them. Foreigners just have a chance if they stay months (no not just 1^^) in korea and train in a progaming house. Otherwise they are going to keep getting rolled. And gstl is no real competition compared to the gsl. If you win there it means soo much less. I really hope GSL stops giving those spots because its just a little freakshow. FUCK. YOU just get the fuck out of here. if you can't support these amazing guys who traveled half way around the world to try and fulfill their dreams, then get the fuck out of here and don't post in LR threads. Seriously, what is wrong with people!? It seems we're all quick to forget how HuK used to be defeated by his own nerve issues? and now he's one of the top 5 protosses in the world. seems we're quick to forget that SaSe, nAni, and Thorzain are all completely new to the Korean scene, that they literally JUST hopped off a plane from Sweden after going to Warsaw and were thrust into a GOMtv booth with hardly any time to prepare. All you idiots who shout shit like ESPORTS ESPORTS like retarded monkeys and then when the people that represent US, the non-koreans, lose, you start bashing them and calling them 'freakshow'? NO! what have YOU accomplished? GTFO Jinro, I hate your slump because I love you, please get yourself out of your own head and get back on from nAni, I love your super solid style, I know you'll do better with more booth experience and korean training experience Thorzain, once you start training with koreans you'll be a powerhouse Terran, I'm sure of it. SaSe, I'm sorry i'm not a big follower of yours, but i promise i'll pay more attention now that you're in korea! BEST OF LUCK TO ALL OF YOU User was warned for this post User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On August 11 2011 02:54 PlaGuE_R wrote: FUCK. YOU just get the fuck out of here. if you can't support these amazing guys who traveled half way around the world to try and fulfill their dreams, then get the fuck out of here and don't post in LR threads. Seriously, what is wrong with people!? It seems we're all quick to forget how HuK used to be defeated by his own nerve issues? and now he's one of the top 5 protosses in the world. seems we're quick to forget that SaSe, nAni, and Thorzain are all completely new to the Korean scene, that they literally JUST hopped off a plane from Sweden after going to Warsaw and were thrust into a GOMtv booth with hardly any time to prepare. All you idiots who shout shit like ESPORTS ESPORTS like retarded monkeys and then when the people that represent US, the non-koreans, lose, you start bashing them and calling them 'freakshow'? NO! what have YOU accomplished? GTFO Jinro, I hate your slump because I love you, please get yourself out of your own head and get back on from nAni, I love your super solid style, I know you'll do better with more booth experience and korean training experience Thorzain, once you start training with koreans you'll be a powerhouse Terran, I'm sure of it. SaSe, I'm sorry i'm not a big follower of yours, but i promise i'll pay more attention now that you're in korea! BEST OF LUCK TO ALL OF YOU I'm English, Swedish people do not represent me anymore than Koreans or Americans do. | ||
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ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
On August 11 2011 02:54 PlaGuE_R wrote: FUCK. YOU just get the fuck out of here. if you can't support these amazing guys who traveled half way around the world to try and fulfill their dreams, then get the fuck out of here and don't post in LR threads. Seriously, what is wrong with people!? It seems we're all quick to forget how HuK used to be defeated by his own nerve issues? and now he's one of the top 5 protosses in the world. seems we're quick to forget that SaSe, nAni, and Thorzain are all completely new to the Korean scene, that they literally JUST hopped off a plane from Sweden after going to Warsaw and were thrust into a GOMtv booth with hardly any time to prepare. All you idiots who shout shit like ESPORTS ESPORTS like retarded monkeys and then when the people that represent US, the non-koreans, lose, you start bashing them and calling them 'freakshow'? NO! what have YOU accomplished? GTFO Jinro, I hate your slump because I love you, please get yourself out of your own head and get back on from nAni, I love your super solid style, I know you'll do better with more booth experience and korean training experience Thorzain, once you start training with koreans you'll be a powerhouse Terran, I'm sure of it. SaSe, I'm sorry i'm not a big follower of yours, but i promise i'll pay more attention now that you're in korea! BEST OF LUCK TO ALL OF YOU QF MOTHERFRIGGIN T!!!! Guys, Keep fighting always, TL (or the non-idiots) will support you as long as you stay there or wherever you go! Improve, and show the haters next season what some dedication and hard work can do! Naniwa, the beastoss, Thorzain, the solid Terran, Sase, the Group-destroyer (hope to see you do that magic in Code S :D), Jinro, Mr. Gorilla and Double Semi's, and Let's all not forget Fenix, who will rise from his zealot grave to fight as an enhanced dragoon!! (Or at least I think that's how the campaign had it  ) | ||
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ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
On August 11 2011 02:56 lunchforthesky wrote: I'm English, Swedish people do not represent me anymore than Koreans or Americans do. I'm American. The swedes don't represent me either... UNTIL YOU REALIZE THAT THEY'RE THE BEACON OF HOPE FOR THE WHOLE FOREIGNER SCENE! You need to realize that supporting these guys means supporting esports and the sustainability of SC2 worldwide! The mentaility you are coming at it with is frankly disgusting. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On August 11 2011 02:59 ImmortalTofu wrote: QF MOTHERFRIGGIN T!!!! Guys, Keep fighting always, TL (or the non-idiots) will support you as long as you stay there or wherever you go! Improve, and show the haters next season what some dedication and hard work can do! Naniwa, the beastoss, Thorzain, the solid Terran, Sase, the Group-destroyer (hope to see you do that magic in Code S :D), Jinro, Mr. Gorilla and Double Semi's, and Let's all not forget Fenix, who will rise from his zealot grave to fight as an enhanced dragoon!! (Or at least I think that's how the campaign had it )Or they will all just rot in Code B until they give up and go back to Europe. Actually Naniwa will get a free Code A spot from MLG again. | ||
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Cyrak
Canada536 Posts
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taldarimAltar
973 Posts
On August 11 2011 02:54 PlaGuE_R wrote: FUCK. YOU just get the fuck out of here. if you can't support these amazing guys who traveled half way around the world to try and fulfill their dreams, then get the fuck out of here and don't post in LR threads. Seriously, what is wrong with people!? It seems we're all quick to forget how HuK used to be defeated by his own nerve issues? and now he's one of the top 5 protosses in the world. seems we're quick to forget that SaSe, nAni, and Thorzain are all completely new to the Korean scene, that they literally JUST hopped off a plane from Sweden after going to Warsaw and were thrust into a GOMtv booth with hardly any time to prepare. All you idiots who shout shit like ESPORTS ESPORTS like retarded monkeys and then when the people that represent US, the non-koreans, lose, you start bashing them and calling them 'freakshow'? NO! what have YOU accomplished? GTFO Jinro, I hate your slump because I love you, please get yourself out of your own head and get back on from nAni, I love your super solid style, I know you'll do better with more booth experience and korean training experience Thorzain, once you start training with koreans you'll be a powerhouse Terran, I'm sure of it. SaSe, I'm sorry i'm not a big follower of yours, but i promise i'll pay more attention now that you're in korea! BEST OF LUCK TO ALL OF YOU They weren't ready, I'm sure there are players in code B who'd do better. But they weren't ready you can't blame them, nani and thorzain just came from warsaw. Even nani said he wouldn't do well, i support them but when they aren't ready or in the right conditions i think even them players themselves don't want to play. Like whitera at the blizzard bnet inv | ||
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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
lets not forget QXC's all kill, it took him a while to get adjusted, but man he stomped that day it takes a bit of time to adjust for korean playstyle, but theyll get better | ||
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