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Midgetman101
Profile Joined February 2011
United States825 Posts
August 08 2011 10:15 GMT
#2481
On August 08 2011 19:14 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 19:13 Hierarch wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:11 Beyonder wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:10 Midgetman101 wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:09 itsjuspeter wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:07 zeru wrote:
Wolf is so angry hahaha.
Protoss really need to find a way to hold this off. They need to be less greedy.


I swear every time anyone says protoss is being too greedy by putting down a Nexus against this build should just get OUT, you HAVE TO FE, this is the last time I'm going to waste time explaining this, the OPTIMAL WAY TO HOLD THIS OF(though impossible) is to have your nexus kick in asap to make enough units.

3 gate vray shuts it down hard you should try that ^^

Cloaked banshees, lose.


if you follow it up with 1 phoenix and a robo and use crazy voidray micro it can work, but it's still not going to do enough vs someone who knows how to respond

Marines, lose.

Maybe you think about this too negatively. Eventually it will be figured out.
~Terran For Life~
ogawdlulz
Profile Joined March 2011
Bangladesh61 Posts
August 08 2011 10:15 GMT
#2482
On August 08 2011 19:13 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
I am a zerg player and I am really glad to see protoss players whine about all-ins which are so hard to scout.
Protosses have like 50 great all-in builds which are almost impossible to scout when executed well so I just cannot feel sorry for protoss at all

This is definitely not about scouting. I can tell it's coming like 5 min into the game because I'm not a full retard and I do everything to counter it and still lose.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
August 08 2011 10:15 GMT
#2483
JUST FOCUS THE NEXUS OMMMGGGGGG
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
August 08 2011 10:15 GMT
#2484
On August 08 2011 19:09 bittman wrote:
Hmm...yeah ok even after reading like 30 pages of discussions about how Protoss can hold it, the skill in holding it is far superior to the skill required to executing that.

To me, that's the definition of something that might need to be rebalanced.


It's much easier to 6 pool than to hold a 6 pool. Nerf 6-pool?

Remember a few months ago when the Zerg tears were flowing about how impossible ZvP felt, and what the response was? "Figure it out."

And that is always the correct response. Figure it out. Don't hope for balance changes, look for solutions. It's way too early to call this imba.
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
August 08 2011 10:15 GMT
#2485
On August 08 2011 19:15 Ocedic wrote:
What's with so much whining from Protoss in this thread? If the strategy was uncounterable then it would be used every game of every match at the highest levels.

Are you saying it is not? In every bo3 TvP it's used at least once by the Terran and it's a win :D
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2486
On August 08 2011 19:14 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 19:13 Hierarch wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:11 Beyonder wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:10 Midgetman101 wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:09 itsjuspeter wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:07 zeru wrote:
Wolf is so angry hahaha.
Protoss really need to find a way to hold this off. They need to be less greedy.


I swear every time anyone says protoss is being too greedy by putting down a Nexus against this build should just get OUT, you HAVE TO FE, this is the last time I'm going to waste time explaining this, the OPTIMAL WAY TO HOLD THIS OF(though impossible) is to have your nexus kick in asap to make enough units.

3 gate vray shuts it down hard you should try that ^^

Cloaked banshees, lose.


if you follow it up with 1 phoenix and a robo and use crazy voidray micro it can work, but it's still not going to do enough vs someone who knows how to respond

Marines, lose.


Shhh

I still see terrans lose to the voidray all in so it can still work vs people who haven't practiced vs it enough
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2487
What the hell was that engagement, either of you?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2488
wtf taeja kill the nexus!!
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11087 Posts
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2489
-.- incompetence by Taeja. Should have had that nexus.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Chezus
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 10:17:09
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2490
I expect a discussion thread on the protoss counter to the 1-1-1 all-in today. We need to theorycraft. And quick before this build starts to get too popular on ladder.
HavocGG
Profile Joined August 2010
Czech Republic113 Posts
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2491
For gods sake kill the nexuuuuuus!
Zaurus
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore676 Posts
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2492
I AM SO HAPPY TO SEE a PvT victory. O YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2493
On August 08 2011 19:15 Ocedic wrote:
What's with so much whining from Protoss in this thread? If the strategy was uncounterable then it would be used every game of every match at the highest levels.

It is.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2494
So bad.

What are they doing...
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Mike15xp
Profile Joined December 2010
United States595 Posts
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2495
uhh that was bad ... by both players
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2496
On August 08 2011 19:15 Scribble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 19:09 bittman wrote:
Hmm...yeah ok even after reading like 30 pages of discussions about how Protoss can hold it, the skill in holding it is far superior to the skill required to executing that.

To me, that's the definition of something that might need to be rebalanced.


It's much easier to 6 pool than to hold a 6 pool. Nerf 6-pool?

Remember a few months ago when the Zerg tears were flowing about how impossible ZvP felt, and what the response was? "Figure it out."

And that is always the correct response. Figure it out. Don't hope for balance changes, look for solutions. It's way too early to call this imba.


And they buffed Zerg dude.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2497
On August 08 2011 19:15 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 19:14 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:13 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:13 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:12 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:11 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Bel'shir beach

In the top left is Taeja

While in the bottom right is Tails


2:00

Barracks / gateway on the way as both players take their gas


3:00

Core on the way for Tails


3:40

Warp gate on the way for tails

Taeja is getting a reactor and a second barracks


5:00

Expansion on the way for tails with two more gateways

Taeja is getting concussive shells


5:40

Failed bunker rush from Taeja


7:30

Nexus on 130 hp...

Stim and an expansion for taeja
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 10:17:09
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2498
On August 08 2011 19:13 Telcontar wrote:
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On August 08 2011 19:11 Asha` wrote:
Reading the LR because I can't watch for the first time in forever and all I see is 111111111111111111111111

xD

The worst thing about this build is that it's so reliable it's stifling Terran development in the match up

It's not our fault that it's either this or go bio for the entire game. If only biomech/mech compositions were more viable in the late game...


I'm just worried that when this build either finally gets nerfed or gets figured out (one way or another it'll be sorted eventually) that Terrans will find themselves struggling again vs Toss in mid and late game scenarios because of how easy leaning on this build can make your prep

I want more ideas for playing vs Toss in lategame so i don't die to a blaze of aoe =p

---

I really don't want Taeja to win, he's one of my least favourite Terrans ><
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2499
On August 08 2011 19:15 Scribble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 19:09 bittman wrote:
Hmm...yeah ok even after reading like 30 pages of discussions about how Protoss can hold it, the skill in holding it is far superior to the skill required to executing that.

To me, that's the definition of something that might need to be rebalanced.


It's much easier to 6 pool than to hold a 6 pool. Nerf 6-pool?

Remember a few months ago when the Zerg tears were flowing about how impossible ZvP felt, and what the response was? "Figure it out."

And that is always the correct response. Figure it out. Don't hope for balance changes, look for solutions. It's way too early to call this imba.

A build used since Beta with a hilarious winrate is too early?
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
August 08 2011 10:16 GMT
#2500
On August 08 2011 19:14 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 19:11 Beyonder wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:10 Midgetman101 wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:09 itsjuspeter wrote:
On August 08 2011 19:07 zeru wrote:
Wolf is so angry hahaha.
Protoss really need to find a way to hold this off. They need to be less greedy.


I swear every time anyone says protoss is being too greedy by putting down a Nexus against this build should just get OUT, you HAVE TO FE, this is the last time I'm going to waste time explaining this, the OPTIMAL WAY TO HOLD THIS OF(though impossible) is to have your nexus kick in asap to make enough units.

3 gate vray shuts it down hard you should try that ^^

Cloaked banshees, lose.


This is sounding very similar to the way us Zergs sounded during GSL3.

I imagine the solution will be something arcane none of us non-pros can figure out, but I bet every pro protoss is practicing getting 1-1-1'd 10-15 times a day.

If you're talking about the 2 rax scv marine all in, that wasn't nearly as bad as this lol.
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