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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwBPriOQ7O0
North American (Original) Broadcast: Monday, Aug 08 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
European Re-Broadcast: Monday, Aug 08 4:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Today's Lower Round 4 Matches:Set 1: FXO.mOoNan vs. coL.drewbie + Show Spoiler [Prediction Poll] +Poll: Who Will Win?!FXO.mOoNan (16) 53% coL.drewbie (14) 47% 30 total votes Your vote: Who Will Win?! (Vote): FXO.mOoNan (Vote): coL.drewbie
Set 2: mouz.Thorzain vs. Mill.LaLush + Show Spoiler [Prediction Poll] +Poll: Who Will Win?!mouz.ThorZaiN (31) 89% Mill.LaLush (4) 11% 35 total votes Your vote: Who Will Win?! (Vote): mouz.ThorZaiN (Vote): Mill.LaLush
Set 3: Acer.Nerchio vs. ESC.GoOdy + Show Spoiler [Prediction Poll] +Poll: Who Will Win?!Acer.Nerchio (27) 73% ESC.GoOdy (10) 27% 37 total votes Your vote: Who Will Win?! (Vote): Acer.Nerchio (Vote): ESC.GoOdy
Set 4: dignitas.SeleCT vs. Liquid`Ret + Show Spoiler [Prediction Poll] +Poll: Who Will Win?!Liquid`Ret (30) 73% dignitas.SeleCT (11) 27% 41 total votes Your vote: Who Will Win?! (Vote): dignitas.SeleCT (Vote): Liquid`Ret
Today's IPL 2 Commentators: PainUser, Tasteless, Artosis, HDStarCraft, TotalBiscuit, and dApollo
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NewsPlease leave general feedback about quality, overlays, graphics, etc. for the IPL in our new Feedback Thread and discuss the games themselves here. Thank you! Each day there will be match recaps, announcements, and other news posted to our News Section on the IPL website. Thanks for watching from myself, and the rest of the IGN eSports Team!
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Sick games!
I think
Set 1: FXO.mOoNan vs. coL.drewbie
Set 2: mouz.Thorzain vs. Mill.LaLush
Set 3: Acer.Nerchio vs. ESC.GoOdy
Set 4: dignitas.SeleCT vs. Liquid`Ret
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This thread went up early. I think Drewbie > mOoNan and Ret > SeleCT.
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Drewbie > mOoNan LaLush > ThorZain Nerchio > GoOdy SeleCT > Ret
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LaLush versus Thorzain and Select vs Ret? Nice games, I will definitly watch those.
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the games tonight are so good....wow
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uh, nice ZvTs on the line. I'm eager to see which terran style (bio vs metal) works better against the swarm.
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Does anyone know how old these replays actually are? They seem pretty awkward to me..
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mOoNan > Drewbie ThorZain > LaLush GoOdy > Nerchio Ret > SeleCT
Kinda hoping on the mOoNan call...
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On August 08 2011 05:30 Ciel wrote: Does anyone know how old these replays actually are? They seem pretty awkward to me.. Before the patch that changed blueflame icon.
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On August 08 2011 05:48 Shaetan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 05:30 Ciel wrote: Does anyone know how old these replays actually are? They seem pretty awkward to me.. Before the patch that changed blueflame icon. But then why cant we see both players supplies and spending in the right upper corner and also no hotkeys at the bottom, and what is the yellow player doing in all of this games on the units and production tab??
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On August 08 2011 06:00 Ciel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 05:48 Shaetan wrote:On August 08 2011 05:30 Ciel wrote: Does anyone know how old these replays actually are? They seem pretty awkward to me.. Before the patch that changed blueflame icon. But then why cant we see both players supplies and spending in the right upper corner and also no hotkeys at the bottom, and what is the yellow player doing in all of this games on the units and production tab??
Those are side-effects of being cloaked maps (to try to stop people from finding out the results way before they want people to), nothing to do with it being old. The patch that fixed showing both players supplies/resources was in January or something, anyway.
I think the games were played around late June or something. Would be somewhat variable and I'm not entirely sure, but that's what I seem to remember.
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Crap! Tastosis casting and I need to get up early tomorrow! :o
Rooting for Goody, go screw up their schedule as you did in Dreamhack! ;-)
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Wait what? Tastosis?
When's the EU broadcast?
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Wow, Drewbie has been really impressive this IPL. Although he's only really been playing TvT's, I thought he would have been eliminated long before this point.
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Ret is on a tear, should win easily (unless this is recorded weeks ago?).
Also think
Drewbie, ThorZain, and Nerchio will advance.
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On August 08 2011 09:12 cheggelund wrote: Ret is on a tear, should win easily (unless this is recorded weeks ago?).
Also think
Drewbie, ThorZain, and Nerchio will advance.
It was recorded weeks ago. And Ret has a so-so record against Select so anything can happen.
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On August 08 2011 09:12 cheggelund wrote: Ret is on a tear, should win easily (unless this is recorded weeks ago?).
Also think
Drewbie, ThorZain, and Nerchio will advance.
it is recorded pre anaheim i think... soo its hard to call you have to remember back kinda.
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Jeez, Drewbie's TvT is just so good, as seen by all the games here and by his games vs. MMA . I knew he had the potential to go far here!
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Dogalopilis
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Drewbie's TvT is definitely quite impressive. His mechanics do need a bit of improving (losing a medivac fleeing from the marines, taking a while to land his orbital, and not dealing as quickly to the drops), but his decision making has been better than his opponents. If he cleans up his mechanics, he would definitely go far.
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Yeah, Drewbie is looking good.
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Ouch, and just as I say that, Drewbie makes the questionable decision to move up Moonan's ramp.
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man wish this was played recently no blue flames
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Great flank by drewbie. Didn't expect him to take out so many tanks that easily.
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On August 08 2011 09:17 ImmortalTofu wrote: Jeez, Drewbie's TvT is just so good, as seen by all the games here and by his games vs. MMA . I knew he had the potential to go far here!
tbh its the same mass marine style every game If this wasn't this tournament format where all matches are played before broadcastet, his opponents would have countered him a lot better.
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Nice lineup today, especially for a looser round.
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Look at blue flame icon. Its still old, showing how long ago they played those series.
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I did think the graphic was quite amusing, it showed the section of the loser's bracket, and just said "Losers". Not loser's bracket or anything, just "Losers".
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Lol thorzains base looks like something from the campaign
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Thorzain's base is hilariously ridiculous and funny.
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D-day was a disaster for the attacking forces, apparently.
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this situation seems similar to that game I played yesterday. Thorzain needs to make cloaked banshees now!.
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What a horrible mistake by Lalush losing all those mutas.
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God, HD is annoying. <mutes>
That was sloppy muta control (or lack thereof) from LaLush. Pretty crazy game. Let's go Lush!
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ROFL thorzain focus fired the marines with the tanks :D LMAO
what a sick game
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wow these replays must be really old cant see both supply at the upper right screen
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attacking an orbital while letting your mutas die to marines is not the smartest move : /
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lol at the tank shooting a queen in the face from two feet away. That image will stand for the game in my mind.
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wow...mistake after mistake after mistake for lalush...
edit: def not the most incredible game of sc2...
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On August 08 2011 10:13 Mawi wrote: wow these replays must be really old cant see both supply at the upper right screen
Thats because these games were played on cloaked maps.
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On August 08 2011 10:13 Mawi wrote: wow these replays must be really old cant see both supply at the upper right screen
It's because of the "hidden results" map. They were played a while ago but not that long.
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Wow Lalush was playing so poorly :/.
Could have crushed that army while he had 2 bases up and a third, with his spire. Instead he sat in the middle of the map then sacs his mutas.
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And Lalush leaving without the gg. Entertaining game there though - Thorzain was really solid and Lalush was a bit too indecisive.
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lol lalush with the immaturity.
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On August 08 2011 10:13 Mawi wrote: wow these replays must be really old cant see both supply at the upper right screen
No, it's a side-effect of being a cloaked map. Not showing both the players supply/resources was patched in January or something.
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Wow what a game. Lalush made some bad decisions. He countered instead of destroying the attacking force. : (
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lol, Lalush is such a joke. He has been one of the most dedicated balance whiners I know.
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LaLush is like Idra, just without all the talent and ability and charisma.
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Going for a base race with zerg against a terran is completely retarded ...
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Lalush should've crushed the force when he had like 25 mutas, and Thorzain only had 1 thor and a few marines for anti air.
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On August 08 2011 10:13 Mawi wrote: wow these replays must be really old cant see both supply at the upper right screen
It's the "cloaked" maps that they use
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On August 08 2011 10:15 Turenne wrote: LaLush is like Idra, just without all the talent and ability and charisma.
IdrA gg's against most terrans unless they 6rax or something
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Wow, Lalush vs Thorzain game 1 just shows how bad a zerg can play and still almost beat Terran in cross positions if they just keep expanding away from the Terran army and counter attacking. Really really bad play by lalush, GJ Thorzain.
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Haha that was kind of tense... GO THORZAIN
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On August 08 2011 10:16 Fatalize wrote: Going for a base race with zerg against a terran is completely retarded ...
not its not...he was ahead after the race...he just needed to destroy the army at his 4/5th instead of sitting in the middle of the map with 20+ mutas and he was fine.
if he fungaled everything and magic boxed his mutas thorzain didnt have enough marines at the top to defend.
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I forgot about the whole cloak maps no wonder it "seemed" old for me thanks for the heads up everyone who told me in page 3!
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On August 08 2011 10:15 Turenne wrote: LaLush is like Idra, just without all the talent and ability and charisma.
Did you just say that Idra has charisma?
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On August 08 2011 10:16 Taryssa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:13 Mawi wrote: wow these replays must be really old cant see both supply at the upper right screen It's the "cloaked" maps that they use
What does that have to do with being old? Older normal maps showed both supplies lol. The 'one supply' cloaked map was fixed a while ago to show both supplies. AKA this is quite old.
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On August 08 2011 10:16 Fatalize wrote: Going for a base race with zerg against a terran is completely retarded ...
No it's actually really effective if executed properly, Thorzain is just really patient and intelligent.
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I'm a swede and everytime I see lalush play I'm rooting for the other guy, no matter who hes playing. Hate that arrogant idiot.
How can you not GG thorzain after a game like that?
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Am I wrong or did Thorzain's push seem really slow? Was he just being cautious about the infestors?
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On August 08 2011 10:18 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:15 Turenne wrote: LaLush is like Idra, just without all the talent and ability and charisma. Did you just say that Idra has charisma?
Yup, there's a reason people love him and love to hate him. It's not just BM and skill.
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On August 08 2011 10:18 morningbreeze wrote: Am I wrong or did Thorzain's push seem really slow? Was he just being cautious about the infestors?
His push was slow, calculated, and safe. Nothing wrong with that.
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On August 08 2011 10:18 morningbreeze wrote: Am I wrong or did Thorzain's push seem really slow? Was he just being cautious about the infestors?
Yeah. His push was largely tanks, which will slow the push down enormously simply due to sieging. He was surely also aware of the fact that he had such little anti-air, so was really cautious about losing any.
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On August 08 2011 10:20 IPA wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:18 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:15 Turenne wrote: LaLush is like Idra, just without all the talent and ability and charisma. Did you just say that Idra has charisma? Yup, there's a reason people love him and love to hate him. It's not just BM and skill.
I have to wonder whether you know what the word means. The fact that some people "love to hate him" would have absolutely nothing to do with charisma. In fact that's the exact opposite of charisma.
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On August 08 2011 10:22 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:20 IPA wrote:On August 08 2011 10:18 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:15 Turenne wrote: LaLush is like Idra, just without all the talent and ability and charisma. Did you just say that Idra has charisma? Yup, there's a reason people love him and love to hate him. It's not just BM and skill. I have to wonder whether you know what the word means. The fact that some people "love to hate him" would have absolutely nothing to do with charisma. In fact that's the exact opposite of charisma.
It's still charisma, even if it doesn't work on everyone. There certainly are a lot of people who actually like him, not just like to hate him. No one is universally loved, and while Idra's really far from universally loved, it's certainly better than general indifference.
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idra isnt charismatic, he's robotic in personality.
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Roach/bane/infestor is such a shitty composition, losing those mutas was so bad for lalush
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On August 08 2011 10:27 MrSalamandra wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:20 IPA wrote:On August 08 2011 10:18 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:15 Turenne wrote: LaLush is like Idra, just without all the talent and ability and charisma. Did you just say that Idra has charisma? Yup, there's a reason people love him and love to hate him. It's not just BM and skill. I have to wonder whether you know what the word means. The fact that some people "love to hate him" would have absolutely nothing to do with charisma. In fact that's the exact opposite of charisma. It's still charisma, even if it doesn't work on everyone. There certainly are a lot of people who actually like him, not just like to hate him. No one is universally loved, and while Idra's really far from universally loved, it's certainly better than general indifference.
Uh, no. Idra barely shows emotion and most of his public comments involve cynicism and negativity. You're misusing the word charisma.
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On August 08 2011 10:36 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:27 MrSalamandra wrote:On August 08 2011 10:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:20 IPA wrote:On August 08 2011 10:18 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:15 Turenne wrote: LaLush is like Idra, just without all the talent and ability and charisma. Did you just say that Idra has charisma? Yup, there's a reason people love him and love to hate him. It's not just BM and skill. I have to wonder whether you know what the word means. The fact that some people "love to hate him" would have absolutely nothing to do with charisma. In fact that's the exact opposite of charisma. It's still charisma, even if it doesn't work on everyone. There certainly are a lot of people who actually like him, not just like to hate him. No one is universally loved, and while Idra's really far from universally loved, it's certainly better than general indifference. Uh, no. Idra barely shows emotion and most of his public comments involve cynicism and negativity. You're misusing the word charisma.
Stop trying to win arguments on the internet, especially when your supporting evidence is your opinion.
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On August 08 2011 10:18 VectorCereal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:16 Taryssa wrote:On August 08 2011 10:13 Mawi wrote: wow these replays must be really old cant see both supply at the upper right screen It's the "cloaked" maps that they use What does that have to do with being old? Older normal maps showed both supplies lol. The 'one supply' cloaked map was fixed a while ago to show both supplies. AKA this is quite old.
Yeah the normal maps worked fine, I wasn't aware that they fixed the one supply thing for the cloaked maps though that's good information to have, thanks
I'd wager that these replays are probably a month-ish old with no basis other than speculation.
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HD: "I'm idolizing Lalush right now... He's been able to hold off Thorzain's consecrated push" *Consecration: An act by which a thing is separated from a common and profane to a sacred use, or by which a person or thing is dedicated to the service and worship of God
Lols. I'm loving this HD vocabulary, it makes for some good moments, especially when PU notices ><
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Lalush is playing so terrible today... It doesn't help that Thorzain is such a baller. xD
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On August 08 2011 10:38 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:36 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:27 MrSalamandra wrote:On August 08 2011 10:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:20 IPA wrote:On August 08 2011 10:18 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:15 Turenne wrote: LaLush is like Idra, just without all the talent and ability and charisma. Did you just say that Idra has charisma? Yup, there's a reason people love him and love to hate him. It's not just BM and skill. I have to wonder whether you know what the word means. The fact that some people "love to hate him" would have absolutely nothing to do with charisma. In fact that's the exact opposite of charisma. It's still charisma, even if it doesn't work on everyone. There certainly are a lot of people who actually like him, not just like to hate him. No one is universally loved, and while Idra's really far from universally loved, it's certainly better than general indifference. Uh, no. Idra barely shows emotion and most of his public comments involve cynicism and negativity. You're misusing the word charisma. Stop trying to win arguments on the internet, especially when your supporting evidence is your opinion.
My evidence is the definition of the word, bud.
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On August 08 2011 10:36 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:27 MrSalamandra wrote:On August 08 2011 10:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:20 IPA wrote:On August 08 2011 10:18 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:15 Turenne wrote: LaLush is like Idra, just without all the talent and ability and charisma. Did you just say that Idra has charisma? Yup, there's a reason people love him and love to hate him. It's not just BM and skill. I have to wonder whether you know what the word means. The fact that some people "love to hate him" would have absolutely nothing to do with charisma. In fact that's the exact opposite of charisma. It's still charisma, even if it doesn't work on everyone. There certainly are a lot of people who actually like him, not just like to hate him. No one is universally loved, and while Idra's really far from universally loved, it's certainly better than general indifference. Uh, no. Idra barely shows emotion and most of his public comments involve cynicism and negativity. You're misusing the word charisma.
I don't find him charismatic, but clearly some do. This is off-topic.
Lalush is really not reacting very well to the drops and the vikings in the main.
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LaLush's Muta and Infestor control is shaky, and his lack of base defense is making me cringe. Thorzain is just slow-pushing him to death.
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Thorzain's pushes are consecrated. They're ordained by Norse gods.
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On August 08 2011 10:18 VectorCereal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:16 Taryssa wrote:On August 08 2011 10:13 Mawi wrote: wow these replays must be really old cant see both supply at the upper right screen It's the "cloaked" maps that they use What does that have to do with being old? Older normal maps showed both supplies lol. The 'one supply' cloaked map was fixed a while ago to show both supplies. AKA this is quite old.
This is not exactly right. We fixed the one supply maps with the help of superouman during the tournament and you will see the games with the new maps shortly. When we started doing the event the one supply cloaked maps weren't fixed.
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On August 08 2011 10:40 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:38 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 08 2011 10:36 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:27 MrSalamandra wrote:On August 08 2011 10:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:20 IPA wrote:On August 08 2011 10:18 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:15 Turenne wrote: LaLush is like Idra, just without all the talent and ability and charisma. Did you just say that Idra has charisma? Yup, there's a reason people love him and love to hate him. It's not just BM and skill. I have to wonder whether you know what the word means. The fact that some people "love to hate him" would have absolutely nothing to do with charisma. In fact that's the exact opposite of charisma. It's still charisma, even if it doesn't work on everyone. There certainly are a lot of people who actually like him, not just like to hate him. No one is universally loved, and while Idra's really far from universally loved, it's certainly better than general indifference. Uh, no. Idra barely shows emotion and most of his public comments involve cynicism and negativity. You're misusing the word charisma. Stop trying to win arguments on the internet, especially when your supporting evidence is your opinion. My evidence is the definition of the word, bud.
"a spiritual power or personal quality that gives an individual influence or authority over large numbers of people.", ignoring the spiritual power part, his personal qualities (bm, cynicism, negativity, etc) gives him influence over a large number of people. He has charisma.
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Oh yeah, Thorzain took Lalush's third. That's rather strange.
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This game has basically slowed to the point where its like two slow boxers slogging it out.
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Does it count as bad gg timing if the player never ggs?
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On August 08 2011 10:40 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:38 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 08 2011 10:36 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:27 MrSalamandra wrote:On August 08 2011 10:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:20 IPA wrote:On August 08 2011 10:18 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:15 Turenne wrote: LaLush is like Idra, just without all the talent and ability and charisma. Did you just say that Idra has charisma? Yup, there's a reason people love him and love to hate him. It's not just BM and skill. I have to wonder whether you know what the word means. The fact that some people "love to hate him" would have absolutely nothing to do with charisma. In fact that's the exact opposite of charisma. It's still charisma, even if it doesn't work on everyone. There certainly are a lot of people who actually like him, not just like to hate him. No one is universally loved, and while Idra's really far from universally loved, it's certainly better than general indifference. Uh, no. Idra barely shows emotion and most of his public comments involve cynicism and negativity. You're misusing the word charisma. Stop trying to win arguments on the internet, especially when your supporting evidence is your opinion. My evidence is the definition of the word, bud.
Your evidence is your opinion of Idra.
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On August 08 2011 10:43 Alex.IGN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:18 VectorCereal wrote:On August 08 2011 10:16 Taryssa wrote:On August 08 2011 10:13 Mawi wrote: wow these replays must be really old cant see both supply at the upper right screen It's the "cloaked" maps that they use What does that have to do with being old? Older normal maps showed both supplies lol. The 'one supply' cloaked map was fixed a while ago to show both supplies. AKA this is quite old. This is not exactly right. We fixed the one supply maps with the help of superouman during the tournament and you will see the games with the new maps shortly. When we started doing the event the one supply cloaked maps weren't fixed.
You, Alex, you're awesome. You're in every TL thread and actually post.
That's awesome. Keep doing that.
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Lalush needs to get out
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I have no idea why Lalush hasn't left.
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dancing mariners. Thorzain <3
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thorzain is so baller its actually stupid lol
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Lalush just trying to be annoying. I'm even surprised he gg and did not wait for Thorzain to destroy all his buildings
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On August 08 2011 10:46 Taryssa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:43 Alex.IGN wrote:On August 08 2011 10:18 VectorCereal wrote:On August 08 2011 10:16 Taryssa wrote:On August 08 2011 10:13 Mawi wrote: wow these replays must be really old cant see both supply at the upper right screen It's the "cloaked" maps that they use What does that have to do with being old? Older normal maps showed both supplies lol. The 'one supply' cloaked map was fixed a while ago to show both supplies. AKA this is quite old. This is not exactly right. We fixed the one supply maps with the help of superouman during the tournament and you will see the games with the new maps shortly. When we started doing the event the one supply cloaked maps weren't fixed. You, Alex, you're awesome. You're in every TL thread and actually post. That's awesome. Keep doing that.
Thanks
Goody vs Nerchio next!
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lalush on tilt
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This was a real SLOW push to a late GG ... little underwhelming.
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On August 08 2011 10:46 Ryzu wrote: Does it count as bad gg timing if the player never ggs?
Yeah that's why you see some players use "gg" at the beginning of games: "gg glhf!"
It's really just a late gg from the last time they played, followed by the current game's glhf
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Thorzain dancing' dem marines. Lalush feels like an incredibly sloppy and inferior version of Nerchio/IdrA, in both bm and play imo.
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Can someone explain the 3rd yellow player that has appeared in some matches?
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Thorzain=freaking baller.
Even Lalush ggs in recognition of his awesomeness.
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On August 08 2011 10:47 Mayor wrote: dancing mariners. Thorzain <3
Those looked like dancing ghosts.
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Thorzains ZvT is worlds ahead of every other european! Enjoyed the games today!
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On August 08 2011 10:49 bobwhiz wrote: Can someone explain the 3rd yellow player that has appeared in some matches?
It was to hide results
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Even the interviews on IGN are well produced.
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Hey IGN.Alex, is Dolce & Gabanna a sponsor of IGN? Just curious
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Man I still can't get over the incredible production value of IPL. I love how much goes into it.
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On August 08 2011 10:49 bobwhiz wrote: Can someone explain the 3rd yellow player that has appeared in some matches?
It's the type of map that they use for these events, they won't show up in a player's match history so you can't go on BNet and find out the results ahead of time.
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On August 08 2011 10:51 FallDownMarigold wrote: Hey IGN.Alex, is Dolce & Gabanna a sponsor of IGN? Just curious
Not to my knowledge, but we'll work on landing that account!
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wow that production was really good on the caster profile
catspajamas is amazing by the way. so well spoken and humble, great voice. he's my favorite caster right now
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I've come to really like CatsPajamas as a caster. He's got a great "radio voice" which too many casters lack.
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On August 08 2011 10:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:46 Ryzu wrote: Does it count as bad gg timing if the player never ggs? Yeah that's why you see some players use "gg" at the beginning of games: "gg glhf!" It's really just a late gg from the last time they played, followed by the current game's glhf
gg hf at the beginning of the game is the way to go man. Why would i lie about wanting my opponent to have good luck? ;P then a macro transition into a gg leave as soon as its clear that you lost and you have the perfect ggs timing
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On August 08 2011 10:52 Alex.IGN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:51 FallDownMarigold wrote: Hey IGN.Alex, is Dolce & Gabanna a sponsor of IGN? Just curious Not to my knowledge, but we'll work on landing that account! haha
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Oh yeah - time for some metal! \m/
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On August 08 2011 10:52 Treadmill wrote: I've come to really like CatsPajamas as a caster. He's got a great "radio voice" which too many casters lack.
Yeah I like his style, he's also a really cool guy and gives pretty awesome interviews.
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I just tuned in. Who won Drewbie v. Moonan? Its not in the OP.
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On August 08 2011 10:55 Taryssa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:52 Treadmill wrote: I've come to really like CatsPajamas as a caster. He's got a great "radio voice" which too many casters lack. Yeah I like his style, he's also a really cool guy and gives pretty awesome interviews. Agreed on all accounts. I particularly liked his comment about lots of current SC2 casters being very knowledgeable about the game, but lacking the commentating skills, specifically in vocals and tones.
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On August 08 2011 10:56 PSA wrote: I just tuned in. Who won Drewbie v. Moonan? Its not in the OP.
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Are these casters trolling us? Seriously about to rage flip some desks if they say "(various stabbing item) in the side" again... Such a dull, uninteresting phrase/analogy to harp on about.
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On August 08 2011 10:56 PSA wrote: I just tuned in. Who won Drewbie v. Moonan? Its not in the OP. But it's in Liquipedia! Because Liquipedia updates in seconds now.
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+3 flyer armor... don't think I've ever seen that in a sc2 game.
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On August 08 2011 10:52 Alex.IGN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:51 FallDownMarigold wrote: Hey IGN.Alex, is Dolce & Gabanna a sponsor of IGN? Just curious Not to my knowledge, but we'll work on landing that account!
Well they should look into it because CatsPJ looked nice in his D&G glasses
There was a nice camera shot of them during his get-to-know clip
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Every infestor was just clumped, one siege tank focus fire and every viking would have survived
But nope =/
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Yeah, IPL, you need to update your results for you OP, I had to go to liquipedia for the results.
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Oh god everytime goody's is on you gotta expect some long games :p
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What the hell is happening? Goody pulling 10 SCV's so they can hang out?
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wow goody's mechanics are just sooooo bad
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I never heard much of Apollo's casting before since I missed a lot of the European events he covered, but it really is a treat to hear him on IPL, he's quickly becoming one of my favorite casters, him and TB are quite enjoyable together.
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Lol what was Nerchio doing? After Goody's sloppy play, he didn't build any units whatsoever and died to the hellions and marines - which he saw while attacking Goody. And leaves with no GG :o(.
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sometimes when looking at goodys mechanics ... i thin he has whatever the opposite of cheats are -.-
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goody was afraid of a roach + ling all-in. That's probably why he didn't move the SCVs back.
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lol nerchio typical zerg loss Oh I'm ahead ill make nothing but drones then get stomp =/
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Lol, casters:
Looks like Goody had 23 SCVs to Nerchio's 40 drones.
Ending screen:
Goody SCVs: 45 Nerchio Drones: 40
That counter really needs to be fixed.
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round of roaches instead of drones and Nerchio wins. Too greedy!
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How does goody win games... oh, if the other player doesn't build any units...
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On August 08 2011 11:25 Ryhn wrote: Lol, casters:
Looks like Goody had 23 SCVs to Nerchio's 40 drones.
Ending screen:
Goody SCVs: 45 Nerchio Drones: 40
That counter really needs to be fixed.
IPL has a statsproblem here. They'll try to fix this next season.
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+ Show Spoiler +- Zerg players remember how to type GG. - Bunker build time decreased by 5 seconds.
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I am quickly becoming a fan of Apollo and Totalbiscuit. Wow, they work well together.
Shows how I can't judge a caster by people's comments or opinions, I have to hear them myself.
And a side note: I love GoOdy's mech play so much. Makes me laugh throughout the game, lol.
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Grack reference! TB rules. :D
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On August 08 2011 11:25 Ryhn wrote: Lol, casters:
Looks like Goody had 23 SCVs to Nerchio's 40 drones.
Ending screen:
Goody SCVs: 45 Nerchio Drones: 40
That counter really needs to be fixed. I thought that was amount of SCVs/Drones created, not amount on the field by the end of the game. However, I can't believe GoOdy lost 22 SCVs, so you must be right. The counter is wrong in some way.
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On August 08 2011 11:27 CAPSLOCKED wrote:+ Show Spoiler +- Zerg players remember how to type GG. I'm looking forward to this.
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Goody confuses me so much. His macro is horrible for a pro player but his decision making is off the charts brilliant. If he worked on his mechanics he would be a complete monster.
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i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed
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They aren't "tiny" unfortunately.
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Poor Goody, he couldn't execute well at all due to his poor mechanics. If he can just improve them through intensive practice he could be brilliant. He's the only player I have seen consistently be successful with the mech style.
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GooDy you had 2 Banshee... =(
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tastosis coming up ? or were they casting the first match?
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i don't understand how TB keeps calling these "little" flaws. they are massive and will only expand given time, when his mechanics remain sub-par at best and other players develop better strategical play. we are already seeing him fall behind from even just a few months ago.
i will agree that he'd quite good if he had the mechanics, but these are by no means "small" problems.
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On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed
Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics.
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Select vs Ret rematch (no extended series) cast by Tastosis starting now!
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Oh God, Tasteless sounds terrible right now. Is he sick? Or are there audio problems?
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On August 08 2011 10:43 MrSalamandra wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 10:40 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:38 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 08 2011 10:36 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:27 MrSalamandra wrote:On August 08 2011 10:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:20 IPA wrote:On August 08 2011 10:18 Doodsmack wrote:On August 08 2011 10:15 Turenne wrote: LaLush is like Idra, just without all the talent and ability and charisma. Did you just say that Idra has charisma? Yup, there's a reason people love him and love to hate him. It's not just BM and skill. I have to wonder whether you know what the word means. The fact that some people "love to hate him" would have absolutely nothing to do with charisma. In fact that's the exact opposite of charisma. It's still charisma, even if it doesn't work on everyone. There certainly are a lot of people who actually like him, not just like to hate him. No one is universally loved, and while Idra's really far from universally loved, it's certainly better than general indifference. Uh, no. Idra barely shows emotion and most of his public comments involve cynicism and negativity. You're misusing the word charisma. Stop trying to win arguments on the internet, especially when your supporting evidence is your opinion. My evidence is the definition of the word, bud. "a spiritual power or personal quality that gives an individual influence or authority over large numbers of people.", ignoring the spiritual power part, his personal qualities (bm, cynicism, negativity, etc) gives him influence over a large number of people. He has charisma.
Notoriety and fame do not imply influence over a large number of people. Idra is not a leader of his fans. They do not follow orders from him on a regular basis. Trust me bro, you're misusing the word. The fact that you pulled a dictionary definition and still got it wrong is proof that you don't understand the word.
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On August 08 2011 11:38 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics.
I haven't seen any brilliant decision making in any of those games. He basically just did the obvious and did the only things that were available to him.
In fact, that hopeful banshee gambit last game was a pretty bad decision. Goody is so unimpressive really.
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Goodie is amazing. He proves just how amazing he is by beating people who have highly superior mechanics. I love watching his games because his unit positioning and strategies are just so great.
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Select would have owned Ret's natural if he didn't throw his hellions away
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On August 08 2011 11:41 Doodsmack wrote: Notoriety and fame do not imply influence over a large number of people. Idra is not a leader of his fans. They do not follow orders from him on a regular basis. Trust me bro, you're misusing the word. The fact that you pulled a dictionary definition and still got it wrong is proof that you don't understand the word. Can you stop derailing the thread and take this ego war to PMs?
OT: Select doing well to keep Ret's drone count down, pretty impressive considering Ret's usually phenomenal defense.
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I love tastosis
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On August 08 2011 11:42 jjmmtt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 11:38 00Visor wrote:On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics. I haven't seen any brilliant decision making in any of those games. He basically just did the obvious and did the only things that were available to him. In fact, that hopeful banshee gambit last game was a pretty bad decision. Goody is so unimpressive really. Do you really think he could have won the game, if he defended the roach attack with his banshees? He already lost too many scvs and surprising Nerchio with banshees was his only chance.
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Ret was .5 a second from losing 30 banelings, so lucky :O
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Ret's guide to throwing away Mutas
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Omg, select let his third die...
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On August 08 2011 11:48 vdale wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 11:42 jjmmtt wrote:On August 08 2011 11:38 00Visor wrote:On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics. I haven't seen any brilliant decision making in any of those games. He basically just did the obvious and did the only things that were available to him. In fact, that hopeful banshee gambit last game was a pretty bad decision. Goody is so unimpressive really. Do you really think he could have won the game, if he defended the roach attack with his banshees? He already lost too many scvs and surprising Nerchio with banshees was his only chance.
He would have had a better chance at winning the game by staying alive than having his banshees spotted in [his] base and then trying to fly over the map hoping nerchio didn't build a few spore crawlers.
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100 supply lead for Ret now! Just harassing SelecT's front and back :p
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Ret threw so many units away all game but Select lost so many orbitals he should not have that it didn't matter =/
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On August 08 2011 11:52 jjmmtt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 11:48 vdale wrote:On August 08 2011 11:42 jjmmtt wrote:On August 08 2011 11:38 00Visor wrote:On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics. I haven't seen any brilliant decision making in any of those games. He basically just did the obvious and did the only things that were available to him. In fact, that hopeful banshee gambit last game was a pretty bad decision. Goody is so unimpressive really. Do you really think he could have won the game, if he defended the roach attack with his banshees? He already lost too many scvs and surprising Nerchio with banshees was his only chance. He would have had a better chance at winning the game by staying alive than having his banshees spotted in [his] base and then trying to fly over the map hoping nerchio didn't build a few spore crawlers.
He made the decisions before any roaches were in his base. The game was already lost.
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rets tvz is just disgusting, wow
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On August 08 2011 11:38 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics. what part of his "awesome decision making" did you see on display tonight? hes like a worse terran version of cruncher. cruncher at least tries to get better and improve his mechanics. everything ive seen goody do i feel like i can do with a few days of practice even though i dont play terran. that last game might be him playing unusually poor but that was like diamond level he got up to 1k minerals during his harass in the early game. sorry thats just terrible to me.
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So many mutas just given away and he still comes out ahead by harrassing SeleCT here and there. SeleCT looked like he didn't know what to do at the last few minutes of Game 1.
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select could have won the game with that marine hellion push right there, but he splitted up his forces and failed which put him behind the rest of the game
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On August 08 2011 11:43 TidusX.Yuna wrote: Goodie is amazing. He proves just how amazing he is by beating people who have highly superior mechanics. I love watching his games because his unit positioning and strategies are just so great. unit positioning? jesus christ god forbid someone who uses lots of tanks try to spread them out.
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On August 08 2011 11:55 benjammin wrote: rets tvz is just disgusting, wow
Not just his zvt. He is playing like the best foreign zerg if not the best foreigner all together.
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On August 08 2011 11:55 Condor Hero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 11:38 00Visor wrote:On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics. what part of his "awesome decision making" did you see on display tonight? hes like a worse terran version of cruncher. cruncher at least tries to get better and improve his mechanics. everything ive seen goody do i feel like i can do with a few days of practice even though i dont play terran.that last game might be him playing unusually poor but that was like diamond level he got up to 1k minerals during his harass in the early game. sorry thats just terrible to me.
Lol just no. There is a reason Goody is a pro and you arent, and likely never will / could be.
All pros need some sort of competitive advantage, and denying Goody has one is just stupid. Goody would literally not win any games vs top players if what you say is true, but infact he performs very well.
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On August 08 2011 11:55 vdale wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 11:52 jjmmtt wrote:On August 08 2011 11:48 vdale wrote:On August 08 2011 11:42 jjmmtt wrote:On August 08 2011 11:38 00Visor wrote:On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics. I haven't seen any brilliant decision making in any of those games. He basically just did the obvious and did the only things that were available to him. In fact, that hopeful banshee gambit last game was a pretty bad decision. Goody is so unimpressive really. Do you really think he could have won the game, if he defended the roach attack with his banshees? He already lost too many scvs and surprising Nerchio with banshees was his only chance. He would have had a better chance at winning the game by staying alive than having his banshees spotted in [his] base and then trying to fly over the map hoping nerchio didn't build a few spore crawlers. He made the decisions before any roaches were in his base. The game was already lost.
What? What you just said makes no sense.
The game was lost AFTER the roaches were in his base. His banshees were out way before the roaches reached his main. He had 2 banshees sitting there before his wall to his main went down. The decision to hide the banshees instead of successfully defend happened after the attack was made, otherwise he couldn't have made the decision to defend (or not) in the first place. That's how time and logic works.
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On August 08 2011 11:55 Condor Hero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 11:38 00Visor wrote:On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics. what part of his "awesome decision making" did you see on display tonight? hes like a worse terran version of cruncher. cruncher at least tries to get better and improve his mechanics. everything ive seen goody do i feel like i can do with a few days of practice even though i dont play terran. that last game might be him playing unusually poor but that was like diamond level he got up to 1k minerals during his harass in the early game. sorry thats just terrible to me. He lost the series, what do you expect? You could pick games from every player were they look pretty dumb (Nerchio in the second game for example). That doesn't mean that he is a terrible player.
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On August 08 2011 11:55 Condor Hero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 11:38 00Visor wrote:On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics. what part of his "awesome decision making" did you see on display tonight? hes like a worse terran version of cruncher. cruncher at least tries to get better and improve his mechanics. everything ive seen goody do i feel like i can do with a few days of practice even though i dont play terran. that last game might be him playing unusually poor but that was like diamond level he got up to 1k minerals during his harass in the early game. sorry thats just terrible to me. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1221_GoOdy#tblt-5735-1-1-DESC
Scroll through that; check out some of his results and the players he has beaten. He isn't some scrub that you can imitate with "a few days of practice". Show a little bit of respect please. He has beaten huge names like Ret, Strelock, Nestea, CatZ and more; i am not saying he is the best Terran but he has a unique style that needs to be recognised. Plus, losing to Nerchio is no disgrace
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On August 08 2011 12:02 bkrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 11:55 Condor Hero wrote:On August 08 2011 11:38 00Visor wrote:On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics. what part of his "awesome decision making" did you see on display tonight? hes like a worse terran version of cruncher. cruncher at least tries to get better and improve his mechanics. everything ive seen goody do i feel like i can do with a few days of practice even though i dont play terran. that last game might be him playing unusually poor but that was like diamond level he got up to 1k minerals during his harass in the early game. sorry thats just terrible to me. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1221_GoOdy#tblt-5735-1-1-DESCScroll through that; check out some of his results and the players he has beaten. He isn't some scrub that you can imitate with "a few days of practice". Show a little bit of respect please. He has beaten huge names like Ret, Strelock, Nestea, CatZ and more; i am not saying he is the best Terran but he has a unique style that needs to be recognised. Plus, losing to Nerchio is no disgrace Jesus Christ. Goody has played a TON of tournament games (at least those listed by TLPD) - Over a thousand already! Who else has such high numbers?
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ouch select went from killing 2 bases like a boss to losing his whole army to banelings in the span of 3 seconds
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uhuh....if you work for the tournament and open a LR thread, maybe you should update the OP for the LR thread?
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On August 08 2011 12:06 TranceStorm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 12:02 bkrow wrote:On August 08 2011 11:55 Condor Hero wrote:On August 08 2011 11:38 00Visor wrote:On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics. what part of his "awesome decision making" did you see on display tonight? hes like a worse terran version of cruncher. cruncher at least tries to get better and improve his mechanics. everything ive seen goody do i feel like i can do with a few days of practice even though i dont play terran. that last game might be him playing unusually poor but that was like diamond level he got up to 1k minerals during his harass in the early game. sorry thats just terrible to me. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1221_GoOdy#tblt-5735-1-1-DESCScroll through that; check out some of his results and the players he has beaten. He isn't some scrub that you can imitate with "a few days of practice". Show a little bit of respect please. He has beaten huge names like Ret, Strelock, Nestea, CatZ and more; i am not saying he is the best Terran but he has a unique style that needs to be recognised. Plus, losing to Nerchio is no disgrace Jesus Christ. Goody has played a TON of tournament games (at least those listed by TLPD) - Over a thousand already! Who else has such high numbers?
If anyone it'd be Europeans, they have a shitload of online tournaments, Goody plays in most of those. (I think Socke and Dimaga do too, so if anyone I'd expect them to have those kinda numbers)
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Wow Tal'darim is pretty Zerg favored...
Ret made so many mistakes losing zerglings and mutas this game, but he's pretty ahead still currently..
Select won't be able to get a 4th and mutas just keep growing
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Uh, rets played this game so poorly. Disappointing
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Why does select keep attacking the 3rd. If he hit the natural not only is it closer but it also shuts down the counter attack,...
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On August 08 2011 12:02 bkrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 11:55 Condor Hero wrote:On August 08 2011 11:38 00Visor wrote:On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics. what part of his "awesome decision making" did you see on display tonight? hes like a worse terran version of cruncher. cruncher at least tries to get better and improve his mechanics. everything ive seen goody do i feel like i can do with a few days of practice even though i dont play terran. that last game might be him playing unusually poor but that was like diamond level he got up to 1k minerals during his harass in the early game. sorry thats just terrible to me. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1221_GoOdy#tblt-5735-1-1-DESCScroll through that; check out some of his results and the players he has beaten. He isn't some scrub that you can imitate with "a few days of practice". Show a little bit of respect please. He has beaten huge names like Ret, Strelock, Nestea, CatZ and more; i am not saying he is the best Terran but he has a unique style that needs to be recognised. Plus, losing to Nerchio is no disgrace yup youre right hes a pro and hes got a style and i cant imitate him with a few days practice but i dont like his style of play and while i havent seen every single one of his games i have seen quite a few games and in the ones ive seen his mechanics are terrible (bad macro most of the time, something like 2k minerals with low gas that couldve been hellions, queuing up tons of scvs, getting supply blocked) i guess im too much of a bw elitist but its hard for me to think someone is good when hes so lacking in basics. he does find a way to win games/tournies though so many i just miss him when hes playing his best.
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On August 08 2011 12:13 PUre.nINE wrote: Wow Tal'darim is pretty Zerg favored...
Ret made so many mistakes losing zerglings and mutas this game, but he's pretty ahead still currently..
Select won't be able to get a 4th and mutas just keep growing
Ret was never ahead that game. I have no idea what you think you were seeing. Ret was throwing away so many mutas.
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On August 08 2011 12:16 PITN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 12:13 PUre.nINE wrote: Wow Tal'darim is pretty Zerg favored...
Ret made so many mistakes losing zerglings and mutas this game, but he's pretty ahead still currently..
Select won't be able to get a 4th and mutas just keep growing Ret was never ahead that game. I have no idea what you think you were seeing. Ret was throwing away so many mutas.
I made that post pretty early in the game (before he lost his two 4ths). It really seemed that if he defended those and that push in the 4 o'clock with more banelings, he would have come out ahead easily.
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I missed the first couple games. Can someone tell me the results?
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When SeleCT is good... he's good. I love his play.
Boxer, Nada, MKPrime, and Select all give me nerd chills when on their best game, and really disappoint when not.
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On August 08 2011 12:19 jeeneeus wrote: I missed the first couple games. Can someone tell me the results?
Moonan, Thorzain, Nerchio all win. Tzain with the 2-0, the rest went to the rubbers.
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On August 08 2011 12:19 PUre.nINE wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 12:16 PITN wrote:On August 08 2011 12:13 PUre.nINE wrote: Wow Tal'darim is pretty Zerg favored...
Ret made so many mistakes losing zerglings and mutas this game, but he's pretty ahead still currently..
Select won't be able to get a 4th and mutas just keep growing Ret was never ahead that game. I have no idea what you think you were seeing. Ret was throwing away so many mutas. I made that post pretty early in the game (before he lost his two 4ths). It really seemed that if he defended those and that push in the 4 o'clock with more banelings, he would have come out ahead easily.
well also taldarim is only "zerg" favored in cross positions which I did not see either game so unless they were in those positions its not zerg favored at all.
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On August 08 2011 12:19 bobwhiz wrote: When SeleCT is good... he's good. I love his play.
Boxer, Nada, MKPrime, and Select all give me nerd chills when on their best game, and really disappoint when not. 100% agree with this :D Go select!
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Select is playing right into Rets style this time it seems.
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Select letting ret mass drone on cross shakuras
He has already lost unless Ret massively fucks up.
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Ret's in unstoppable mode :S If Select can pull a win now, it'd be awesome. But both players are playing so good right now :D Great games.
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I'm not sure SeleCT really knows how to pull apart Ret's style, he's getting shut down pretty hard.
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On August 08 2011 12:15 Condor Hero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 12:02 bkrow wrote:On August 08 2011 11:55 Condor Hero wrote:On August 08 2011 11:38 00Visor wrote:On August 08 2011 11:33 Condor Hero wrote: i dont even like nerchio but i hope he wins because i hate seeing terrible players succeed Why is Goody terrible? You should appreciate his awesome decision making and positioning which makes him able to compete at this level despite his lack of mechanics. what part of his "awesome decision making" did you see on display tonight? hes like a worse terran version of cruncher. cruncher at least tries to get better and improve his mechanics. everything ive seen goody do i feel like i can do with a few days of practice even though i dont play terran. that last game might be him playing unusually poor but that was like diamond level he got up to 1k minerals during his harass in the early game. sorry thats just terrible to me. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1221_GoOdy#tblt-5735-1-1-DESCScroll through that; check out some of his results and the players he has beaten. He isn't some scrub that you can imitate with "a few days of practice". Show a little bit of respect please. He has beaten huge names like Ret, Strelock, Nestea, CatZ and more; i am not saying he is the best Terran but he has a unique style that needs to be recognised. Plus, losing to Nerchio is no disgrace yup youre right hes a pro and hes got a style and i cant imitate him with a few days practice but i dont like his style of play and while i havent seen every single one of his games i have seen quite a few games and in the ones ive seen his mechanics are terrible (bad macro most of the time, something like 2k minerals with low gas that couldve been hellions, queuing up tons of scvs, getting supply blocked) i guess im too much of a bw elitist but its hard for me to think someone is good when hes so lacking in basics. he does find a way to win games/tournies though so many i just miss him when hes playing his best. He was B+ iccup, mister elitist.
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ret losing so many mutas its painful to watch
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On August 08 2011 12:32 poor newb wrote: ret losing so many mutas its painful to watch
Doesn't matter. Select has lost already unless he takes a 4th right now.
Ret and a-move with brood lords and lings and win.
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Ultras was an interesting choice, wouldn't be surprised to see him just not really use it.
Ret has a commanding lead
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So terrifying to see what a zerg can do off this kind of economy. Select's strength (finessing multiple drops/skirmishes) is not favored here. Needs a concentrated Thorzain push.
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lol Ret wasn't microing his infestors at all - doesn't matter
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oh wow ret spent over twice as many resources.
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great play by both players 3 good games
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On August 08 2011 12:35 morningbreeze wrote: So terrifying to see what a zerg can do off this kind of economy. Select's strength (finessing multiple drops/skirmishes) is not favored here. Needs a concentrated Thorzain push.
Yes, agreed, SeleCT is a very very active Terran with his drops and multi but Ret's style lends him so much flexibility and defense against that style of play, at least from Medvacs. SeleCT would probably find more success using Hellions instead of 8 'rine drops.
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Jesus, who chose these maps.... Feel kinda bad for select
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I want to see Ret vs ThorZaiN !!!
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Even though Ret was in a commanding position in game 1 and 3 his unit control really made me cringe. In game 1 those mutas just sacrificed themselves over a control group of marines and then that infestor control at the end of game 3 makes me want to scream haha
Overall though he played well against SeleCT (who is awesome!) so a great result for Ret
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On August 08 2011 12:37 Itsmedudeman wrote: Jesus, who chose these maps....
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KR - TvZ: 20-9 (69%)
Int - TvZ: 64-77 (45.4%)
Nothing to do with balance, just foreign terran don't know how to play macro games against Zerg.
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On August 08 2011 12:37 Shackadeemus wrote: I want to see Ret vs ThorZaiN !!!
That matchup happened in the blizzard invite thingy yesterday, I believe.
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On August 08 2011 12:38 SafeAsCheese wrote:terminus KR - TvZ: 20-9 (69%) Int - TvZ: 64-77 (45.4%) Nothing to do with balance, just foreign terran don't know how to play macro games against Zerg.
Well Ret did say playing against very good Korean terrans was like playing a completely different game.
Still, though that is a stark contrast.
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So what is up with the clock thing that is up right now on the stream?Is it a regular event I just haven't encountered before?
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On August 08 2011 12:41 Brotatolol wrote:Sad to see + Show Spoiler + knocked out already, was hoping he'd do well. It wasn't thaaat early. He did get into the top 12 after all.
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On August 08 2011 12:40 Ghostpvp wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2011 12:38 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 08 2011 12:37 Itsmedudeman wrote: Jesus, who chose these maps.... terminus KR - TvZ: 20-9 (69%) Int - TvZ: 64-77 (45.4%) Nothing to do with balance, just foreign terran don't know how to play macro games against Zerg. Well Ret did say playing against very good Korean terrans was like playing a completely different game. Still, though that is a stark contrast.
29 games is not nearly enough to draw any conclusions tho... i wouldnt even say that a 150 is that convincing.
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When will the games catch up with the present. Can't really feel any emotion when the games and maps are so out-dated..
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When is this Idra Moonan game from?
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Will someone please tell me the results for tonight in a PM since the OP isnt updated to show them? Thanks
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I don't know what's worse about these gamestop commercials: the smug jokes or the horrible, pinched voice that always comes in at the end, spieling off the names of games I am now certain to never buy.
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On August 08 2011 12:46 Maskedsatyr wrote: When will the games catch up with the present. Can't really feel any emotion when the games and maps are so out-dated..
They don't catch up, the whole tournament was played over the course of a weekend three or four weeks ago if I recall correctly.
Also, Joshy could you please try to keep on top of updating results? thanks.
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Can someone give me a link to the brackets/pool results?
Is it in the OP? I can't find it. I don't really know what each of these players is playing for.
edit: nm, someone else asked.
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Painuser's personal improvement has converted me to a IPL fanboy.
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