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Cant believe theres so much hate in these threads while we're so blessed with a wonderful event, with wonderful games. Last warning, whine and insult the players or commentators? See you.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
August 01 2011 05:19 GMT
#15581
On August 01 2011 14:02 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:56 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:51 redFF wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:38 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:36 Kiyo. wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:28 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:57 Flare23 wrote:
[quote]

Extremely rude, just wanted to point this comment out for more people to see. I wonder how many of you out there thinks just like this guy. Can't beat them? lets try to find other ways to bash them so you can feel better about your self and whatever "race/nationality" you relate to. You are a pathetic person, as are all the people who share your view.


Lol? Calm down bro. Just my opinion, I prefer watching foreigners, I'm pathetic because I prefer watching foreigners? Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean you need to go on a hissy-fit. Your post was more ban-worthy than mine, I'm not bashing any players or anybody at all, I'm saying I found this MLG boring compared to others, just a plain opinion. Events aren't perfect, just because it's starcraft doesn't mean it's perfect and heaven forbid there is a slight bit of criticism. You on the other hand are attacking me for these views, not very fair.

I'd rather watch Huk vs Idra than GanZi vs MVP...sorry if that makes me "pathetic".


It was your comment of "Koreans with zero personality". Just because you don't relate to them doesn't mean they don't have personality. You're just stereotyping all Koreans as having zero personality which is stupid.


I'm fairly sure that anyone who knows what personality is would agree and say that there was minimal personality in the Koreans this MLG.


Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?

IdrA vs cruncher was an awful series...


But the act before it built up the hype. Thats what I'm getting at.

It made me relive their TSL series.


There was no hype at all for that series. It was angry nerd #1 vs bad angry nerd #2. Their TSL series was shit, so was this one.

You seem to be a guy who loves to watch drama, I recommend WWE


Oh yeah, TSL series was shit... Even though I'm pretty sure Cruncher played a very solid first game and Idra showcased how good Overlord drops were against FE'ing Protoss. So many damn drops everywhere I was amazed how well Idra was playing and was impressed with the effort Cruncher put forth to try and hold.

God, everyone thinks it has to be drama... Why can't it be players just messing with each other? I don't get why the fuck you all insist it has to be drama, unless you're so used to seeing TV shows full of that shit.


If you want to watch kids messing with each other please go watch high school football. We're not 10 year olds here who want to watch kids poke at each other..
The Notorious Winkles
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 01 2011 05:20 GMT
#15582
On August 01 2011 14:19 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 14:02 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:56 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:51 redFF wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:38 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:36 Kiyo. wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:28 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
[quote]

Lol? Calm down bro. Just my opinion, I prefer watching foreigners, I'm pathetic because I prefer watching foreigners? Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean you need to go on a hissy-fit. Your post was more ban-worthy than mine, I'm not bashing any players or anybody at all, I'm saying I found this MLG boring compared to others, just a plain opinion. Events aren't perfect, just because it's starcraft doesn't mean it's perfect and heaven forbid there is a slight bit of criticism. You on the other hand are attacking me for these views, not very fair.

I'd rather watch Huk vs Idra than GanZi vs MVP...sorry if that makes me "pathetic".


It was your comment of "Koreans with zero personality". Just because you don't relate to them doesn't mean they don't have personality. You're just stereotyping all Koreans as having zero personality which is stupid.


I'm fairly sure that anyone who knows what personality is would agree and say that there was minimal personality in the Koreans this MLG.


Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?

IdrA vs cruncher was an awful series...


But the act before it built up the hype. Thats what I'm getting at.

It made me relive their TSL series.


There was no hype at all for that series. It was angry nerd #1 vs bad angry nerd #2. Their TSL series was shit, so was this one.

You seem to be a guy who loves to watch drama, I recommend WWE


Oh yeah, TSL series was shit... Even though I'm pretty sure Cruncher played a very solid first game and Idra showcased how good Overlord drops were against FE'ing Protoss. So many damn drops everywhere I was amazed how well Idra was playing and was impressed with the effort Cruncher put forth to try and hold.

God, everyone thinks it has to be drama... Why can't it be players just messing with each other? I don't get why the fuck you all insist it has to be drama, unless you're so used to seeing TV shows full of that shit.


If you want to watch kids messing with each other please go watch high school football. We're not 10 year olds here who want to watch kids poke at each other..


So you were outraged when MMA/MC messed with Idra and when MC asked Naniwa if he "knew the dance of death"?
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 05:22:31
August 01 2011 05:21 GMT
#15583
On August 01 2011 14:20 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 14:19 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:02 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:56 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:51 redFF wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:38 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:36 Kiyo. wrote:
[quote]

It was your comment of "Koreans with zero personality". Just because you don't relate to them doesn't mean they don't have personality. You're just stereotyping all Koreans as having zero personality which is stupid.


I'm fairly sure that anyone who knows what personality is would agree and say that there was minimal personality in the Koreans this MLG.


Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?

IdrA vs cruncher was an awful series...


But the act before it built up the hype. Thats what I'm getting at.

It made me relive their TSL series.


There was no hype at all for that series. It was angry nerd #1 vs bad angry nerd #2. Their TSL series was shit, so was this one.

You seem to be a guy who loves to watch drama, I recommend WWE


Oh yeah, TSL series was shit... Even though I'm pretty sure Cruncher played a very solid first game and Idra showcased how good Overlord drops were against FE'ing Protoss. So many damn drops everywhere I was amazed how well Idra was playing and was impressed with the effort Cruncher put forth to try and hold.

God, everyone thinks it has to be drama... Why can't it be players just messing with each other? I don't get why the fuck you all insist it has to be drama, unless you're so used to seeing TV shows full of that shit.


If you want to watch kids messing with each other please go watch high school football. We're not 10 year olds here who want to watch kids poke at each other..


So you were outraged when MMA/MC messed with Idra and when MC asked Naniwa if he "knew the dance of death"?


No, I was indifferent because I don't care for childish antics. This is a competitive professional sport first and foremost, not an elementary school tether ball game. I could give less of a shit for people to mess with idra. I want to see the best players in the world deliver me grade A games.
The Notorious Winkles
Sideburn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
August 01 2011 05:22 GMT
#15584
On August 01 2011 14:17 Qaatar wrote:
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On August 01 2011 14:15 Sideburn wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:10 Qaatar wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:06 Sideburn wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:59 Qaatar wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:57 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:57 draumr wrote:
How can people say the Koreans didn't have personality? Boxer was grinning ear to ear after he beat rain, MVP looked very happy when he won. People say MC has personality; the truth is MC speaks some broken english.

The language barrier breaks almost all attempts at displaying a personality. Have any of you ever been on a stage in front of thousands of people and all 1 person speaks the same language as you(the translator)? I suggest you watch the facial features and the hands of the koreans as they are given interviews, it shows most of them are brimming with emotion.

And besides, so far I have seen 3 specific names given out of people that have "personality" among dozens of people we saw in pool play and championship brackets, while there was a total of 8 Koreans. Those are the guys that the oddballs, not the norm.

MC's got personality cause he knows how to speak broken english, pimp walk, and wear aviators lol


That's basically it. Convince all of these Koreans to speak their broken English more, and suddenly, in the eyes of these complainers, they'll have more "personality."


Man, if you guys can't realize that MC has more personality than almost any player in the world, Korea or otherwise, then there is no hope for you.


...and a large part of his personality has to do with his courage to speak English even when he knows it's bad or makes him look foolish. Sure, that courage might not be in most Koreans, but that has more to do with general shyness that isn't necessarily how much "personality" a person has.


Very little has to do with what language he speaks. In fact, the fact he speaks english on occasion barely plays into it. It's WHAT he says. Have you seen interviews with him and the cocky responses he gives and the showboating he does? He isn't a douche like idrA. He showboats. It's great. It's fun. The crowd and fans get into it.


Have you read the GSL interviews with guys like NesTea and FD? Or Byun? As much interesting/personality showcasing stuff as MC, if not more. NesTea is also cocky as hell. Unforunately, they don't do it in English, or showcase it in physical antics like MC, so no one notices/cares, or it's lessened. So yes, it has everything to do with language.


"They're exactly like him only he does way more. Clearly he hasn't been considered to have a big personality since before he spoke in english. MC's antics have nothing to do with anything. It's all about him speaking English."
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 01 2011 05:23 GMT
#15585
On August 01 2011 14:21 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 14:20 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:19 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:02 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:56 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:51 redFF wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:38 Cloud9157 wrote:
[quote]

I'm fairly sure that anyone who knows what personality is would agree and say that there was minimal personality in the Koreans this MLG.


Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?

IdrA vs cruncher was an awful series...


But the act before it built up the hype. Thats what I'm getting at.

It made me relive their TSL series.


There was no hype at all for that series. It was angry nerd #1 vs bad angry nerd #2. Their TSL series was shit, so was this one.

You seem to be a guy who loves to watch drama, I recommend WWE


Oh yeah, TSL series was shit... Even though I'm pretty sure Cruncher played a very solid first game and Idra showcased how good Overlord drops were against FE'ing Protoss. So many damn drops everywhere I was amazed how well Idra was playing and was impressed with the effort Cruncher put forth to try and hold.

God, everyone thinks it has to be drama... Why can't it be players just messing with each other? I don't get why the fuck you all insist it has to be drama, unless you're so used to seeing TV shows full of that shit.


If you want to watch kids messing with each other please go watch high school football. We're not 10 year olds here who want to watch kids poke at each other..


So you were outraged when MMA/MC messed with Idra and when MC asked Naniwa if he "knew the dance of death"?


No, I was indifferent because I don't care for childish antics. This is a competitive professional sport first and foremost, not an elementary school tether ball game. I could give less of a shit for people to mess with idra. I want to see the best players in the world deliver me grade A games.


Ok, so it bothers you when I point out the lack of poking fun, but it doesn't bother you when you see it...

Perfect logic.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
QuantumPhysX
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines273 Posts
August 01 2011 05:23 GMT
#15586
What's this bitching about "drama > quality of games" about?

Seriously, watch the Ganzi vs MVP series and stfu
A man once asked me if I saw the glass half empty or half full. I turned and said, "Neither. I see a glass twice as big as it should be."
Carryz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States67 Posts
August 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#15587
On August 01 2011 14:20 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 14:19 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:02 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:56 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:51 redFF wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:38 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:36 Kiyo. wrote:
[quote]

It was your comment of "Koreans with zero personality". Just because you don't relate to them doesn't mean they don't have personality. You're just stereotyping all Koreans as having zero personality which is stupid.


I'm fairly sure that anyone who knows what personality is would agree and say that there was minimal personality in the Koreans this MLG.


Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?

IdrA vs cruncher was an awful series...


But the act before it built up the hype. Thats what I'm getting at.

It made me relive their TSL series.


There was no hype at all for that series. It was angry nerd #1 vs bad angry nerd #2. Their TSL series was shit, so was this one.

You seem to be a guy who loves to watch drama, I recommend WWE


Oh yeah, TSL series was shit... Even though I'm pretty sure Cruncher played a very solid first game and Idra showcased how good Overlord drops were against FE'ing Protoss. So many damn drops everywhere I was amazed how well Idra was playing and was impressed with the effort Cruncher put forth to try and hold.

God, everyone thinks it has to be drama... Why can't it be players just messing with each other? I don't get why the fuck you all insist it has to be drama, unless you're so used to seeing TV shows full of that shit.


If you want to watch kids messing with each other please go watch high school football. We're not 10 year olds here who want to watch kids poke at each other..


So you were outraged when MMA/MC messed with Idra and when MC asked Naniwa if he "knew the dance of death"?


Believe it or not, there are people that aren't retarded like you. Unlike you, we aren't going to sit here and bitch that there isn't any drama or personality. We will enjoy it if it occurs, but our lives aren't dull enough that we vicariously rely on gamers for fake drama.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 01 2011 05:25 GMT
#15588
On August 01 2011 14:24 Carryz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 14:20 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:19 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:02 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:56 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:51 redFF wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:38 Cloud9157 wrote:
[quote]

I'm fairly sure that anyone who knows what personality is would agree and say that there was minimal personality in the Koreans this MLG.


Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?

IdrA vs cruncher was an awful series...


But the act before it built up the hype. Thats what I'm getting at.

It made me relive their TSL series.


There was no hype at all for that series. It was angry nerd #1 vs bad angry nerd #2. Their TSL series was shit, so was this one.

You seem to be a guy who loves to watch drama, I recommend WWE


Oh yeah, TSL series was shit... Even though I'm pretty sure Cruncher played a very solid first game and Idra showcased how good Overlord drops were against FE'ing Protoss. So many damn drops everywhere I was amazed how well Idra was playing and was impressed with the effort Cruncher put forth to try and hold.

God, everyone thinks it has to be drama... Why can't it be players just messing with each other? I don't get why the fuck you all insist it has to be drama, unless you're so used to seeing TV shows full of that shit.


If you want to watch kids messing with each other please go watch high school football. We're not 10 year olds here who want to watch kids poke at each other..


So you were outraged when MMA/MC messed with Idra and when MC asked Naniwa if he "knew the dance of death"?


Believe it or not, there are people that aren't retarded like you. Unlike you, we aren't going to sit here and bitch that there isn't any drama or personality. We will enjoy it if it occurs, but our lives aren't dull enough that we vicariously rely on gamers for fake drama.


TROLOLOLOLOLOL x2

User was temp banned for this post.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Melix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States89 Posts
August 01 2011 05:25 GMT
#15589
On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:38 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:36 Kiyo. wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:28 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:57 Flare23 wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:43 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:31 Cloud9157 wrote:
I think I'm the only person kinda sick of seeing Koreans dominate everything. Can we grab all Code A guys next time? I'm sure Puzzle would love the chance to test his skill out against foreigners.


Agreed. This MLG was so boring for me. Every second game had koreans with zero personality. I didn't see a single "omg epic" matchup like huk vs idra or something along those lines which MLG is famous for. Every day when I checked the matchlist upcoming for the day it just got more and more boring. I can't blame the koreans or the management because it would be unfair to not include them but...boy does it make events more boring for foreigner viewers. We already have gom...I'd like to see some foreigners play for once.

The skill gap between koreans and foreigners are getting bigger and bigger just like in BW.


Extremely rude, just wanted to point this comment out for more people to see. I wonder how many of you out there thinks just like this guy. Can't beat them? lets try to find other ways to bash them so you can feel better about your self and whatever "race/nationality" you relate to. You are a pathetic person, as are all the people who share your view.


Lol? Calm down bro. Just my opinion, I prefer watching foreigners, I'm pathetic because I prefer watching foreigners? Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean you need to go on a hissy-fit. Your post was more ban-worthy than mine, I'm not bashing any players or anybody at all, I'm saying I found this MLG boring compared to others, just a plain opinion. Events aren't perfect, just because it's starcraft doesn't mean it's perfect and heaven forbid there is a slight bit of criticism. You on the other hand are attacking me for these views, not very fair.

I'd rather watch Huk vs Idra than GanZi vs MVP...sorry if that makes me "pathetic".


It was your comment of "Koreans with zero personality". Just because you don't relate to them doesn't mean they don't have personality. You're just stereotyping all Koreans as having zero personality which is stupid.


I'm fairly sure that anyone who knows what personality is would agree and say that there was minimal personality in the Koreans this MLG.


Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?


White Ra just proves my point. People find him interesting because he's older, and supposedly super nice and plain vanilla. It's his LACK of personality that most people find endearing. But if he were a Korean you would find him boring.

As for Tyler, I suppose he's an interesting guy in general, but what sort of "personality" did he show at this MLG? You got more excited watching Tyler v. ThisIsJimmy than watching Boxer v. Rain? Seriously?

As for Idra vs Cruncher, if that's the sort of thing you want to see more at MLG -- even if the actual series is AWFUL -- maybe you should try watching a different sport.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
August 01 2011 05:26 GMT
#15590
On August 01 2011 14:23 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 14:21 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:20 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:19 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:02 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:56 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:51 redFF wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
[quote]

Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?

IdrA vs cruncher was an awful series...


But the act before it built up the hype. Thats what I'm getting at.

It made me relive their TSL series.


There was no hype at all for that series. It was angry nerd #1 vs bad angry nerd #2. Their TSL series was shit, so was this one.

You seem to be a guy who loves to watch drama, I recommend WWE


Oh yeah, TSL series was shit... Even though I'm pretty sure Cruncher played a very solid first game and Idra showcased how good Overlord drops were against FE'ing Protoss. So many damn drops everywhere I was amazed how well Idra was playing and was impressed with the effort Cruncher put forth to try and hold.

God, everyone thinks it has to be drama... Why can't it be players just messing with each other? I don't get why the fuck you all insist it has to be drama, unless you're so used to seeing TV shows full of that shit.


If you want to watch kids messing with each other please go watch high school football. We're not 10 year olds here who want to watch kids poke at each other..


So you were outraged when MMA/MC messed with Idra and when MC asked Naniwa if he "knew the dance of death"?


No, I was indifferent because I don't care for childish antics. This is a competitive professional sport first and foremost, not an elementary school tether ball game. I could give less of a shit for people to mess with idra. I want to see the best players in the world deliver me grade A games.


Ok, so it bothers you when I point out the lack of poking fun, but it doesn't bother you when you see it...

Perfect logic.


It bothers me when top players like mvp, boxer, drg, etc. are stereotyped as having no personality when the problem is your retarded thirst for annoyance.
The Notorious Winkles
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Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
August 01 2011 05:26 GMT
#15591
On August 01 2011 14:22 Sideburn wrote:
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On August 01 2011 14:17 Qaatar wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:15 Sideburn wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:10 Qaatar wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:06 Sideburn wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:59 Qaatar wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:57 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:57 draumr wrote:
How can people say the Koreans didn't have personality? Boxer was grinning ear to ear after he beat rain, MVP looked very happy when he won. People say MC has personality; the truth is MC speaks some broken english.

The language barrier breaks almost all attempts at displaying a personality. Have any of you ever been on a stage in front of thousands of people and all 1 person speaks the same language as you(the translator)? I suggest you watch the facial features and the hands of the koreans as they are given interviews, it shows most of them are brimming with emotion.

And besides, so far I have seen 3 specific names given out of people that have "personality" among dozens of people we saw in pool play and championship brackets, while there was a total of 8 Koreans. Those are the guys that the oddballs, not the norm.

MC's got personality cause he knows how to speak broken english, pimp walk, and wear aviators lol


That's basically it. Convince all of these Koreans to speak their broken English more, and suddenly, in the eyes of these complainers, they'll have more "personality."


Man, if you guys can't realize that MC has more personality than almost any player in the world, Korea or otherwise, then there is no hope for you.


...and a large part of his personality has to do with his courage to speak English even when he knows it's bad or makes him look foolish. Sure, that courage might not be in most Koreans, but that has more to do with general shyness that isn't necessarily how much "personality" a person has.


Very little has to do with what language he speaks. In fact, the fact he speaks english on occasion barely plays into it. It's WHAT he says. Have you seen interviews with him and the cocky responses he gives and the showboating he does? He isn't a douche like idrA. He showboats. It's great. It's fun. The crowd and fans get into it.


Have you read the GSL interviews with guys like NesTea and FD? Or Byun? As much interesting/personality showcasing stuff as MC, if not more. NesTea is also cocky as hell. Unforunately, they don't do it in English, or showcase it in physical antics like MC, so no one notices/cares, or it's lessened. So yes, it has everything to do with language.


"They're exactly like him only he does way more. Clearly he hasn't been considered to have a big personality since before he spoke in english. MC's antics have nothing to do with anything. It's all about him speaking English."


I have no clue what your quote is referencing. Either way, read my original post. It wasn't that these Koreans would suddenly rival MC or surpass him in personality if they started speaking broken English. No, it's just that they would greatly enhance that image of "having personality" to foreigners IF they did so. Has nothing to do, really, with how much personality MC has or doesn't have - and quite frankly, I don't give a shit. Was just using him as an example, but got sucked into this useless argument as per usual on TL.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
August 01 2011 05:26 GMT
#15592
I like the crossout and change of time for the Boxer vs. Rain series. Best BO3 ever.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
August 01 2011 05:26 GMT
#15593
Right no professional athlete ever acts cocky so our pros shouldn't...

*shifty eyes*

Yes, that was sarcasm, professional athletes are just as bad if not worse. Especially in hockey and basketball. (On that note... fuck Avery.)
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
QuantumPhysX
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines273 Posts
August 01 2011 05:27 GMT
#15594
Who cares about personality anyway?

Idra himself said, this is video game competition, NOT A DATING GAME. LOLOL
A man once asked me if I saw the glass half empty or half full. I turned and said, "Neither. I see a glass twice as big as it should be."
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
August 01 2011 05:29 GMT
#15595
Also for those talking about personality and Koreans obviously did not watch a SINGLE Boxer match, dude showed more personality than anyone else this event. Well, besides the Idra Cruncher no handshake TWICE.
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Jeity
Profile Joined March 2011
99 Posts
August 01 2011 05:29 GMT
#15596
Top players produce top quality games. Top quality games produce drama in and of itself once the match is over. That's the only kind of drama I need, everything else is extraneous. I was much more into the event when Boxer came out with a 2-1 win over Rain than I was when Idra refused to shake Cruncher's hand.

Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 01 2011 05:30 GMT
#15597
On August 01 2011 14:25 Melix wrote:
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On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:38 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:36 Kiyo. wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:28 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:57 Flare23 wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:43 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:31 Cloud9157 wrote:
I think I'm the only person kinda sick of seeing Koreans dominate everything. Can we grab all Code A guys next time? I'm sure Puzzle would love the chance to test his skill out against foreigners.


Agreed. This MLG was so boring for me. Every second game had koreans with zero personality. I didn't see a single "omg epic" matchup like huk vs idra or something along those lines which MLG is famous for. Every day when I checked the matchlist upcoming for the day it just got more and more boring. I can't blame the koreans or the management because it would be unfair to not include them but...boy does it make events more boring for foreigner viewers. We already have gom...I'd like to see some foreigners play for once.

The skill gap between koreans and foreigners are getting bigger and bigger just like in BW.


Extremely rude, just wanted to point this comment out for more people to see. I wonder how many of you out there thinks just like this guy. Can't beat them? lets try to find other ways to bash them so you can feel better about your self and whatever "race/nationality" you relate to. You are a pathetic person, as are all the people who share your view.


Lol? Calm down bro. Just my opinion, I prefer watching foreigners, I'm pathetic because I prefer watching foreigners? Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean you need to go on a hissy-fit. Your post was more ban-worthy than mine, I'm not bashing any players or anybody at all, I'm saying I found this MLG boring compared to others, just a plain opinion. Events aren't perfect, just because it's starcraft doesn't mean it's perfect and heaven forbid there is a slight bit of criticism. You on the other hand are attacking me for these views, not very fair.

I'd rather watch Huk vs Idra than GanZi vs MVP...sorry if that makes me "pathetic".


It was your comment of "Koreans with zero personality". Just because you don't relate to them doesn't mean they don't have personality. You're just stereotyping all Koreans as having zero personality which is stupid.


I'm fairly sure that anyone who knows what personality is would agree and say that there was minimal personality in the Koreans this MLG.


Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?


White Ra just proves my point. People find him interesting because he's older, and supposedly super nice and plain vanilla. It's his LACK of personality that most people find endearing. But if he were a Korean you would find him boring.

As for Tyler, I suppose he's an interesting guy in general, but what sort of "personality" did he show at this MLG? You got more excited watching Tyler v. ThisIsJimmy than watching Boxer v. Rain? Seriously?

As for Idra vs Cruncher, if that's the sort of thing you want to see more at MLG -- even if the actual series is AWFUL -- maybe you should try watching a different sport.


People have pointed at the language barrier as an issue for the Koreans. Frankly, I think thats what it is: White Ra can speak English better than just about every Korean who isn't a translator. He gets more of a chance to show people what he is like: A guy who loves his fans, tries entertaining them (special tektiks) and he is very considerate.

Are the Koreans like him? Probably. I guess I need to realize the language barrier will make it seem like they have a lack of personality.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 05:54:57
August 01 2011 05:54 GMT
#15598
This is a competitive game. Who cares if the players aren't drama queens or the Johnny Depp of gaming. They're professional, and place gaming ahead of trivial and ultimately useless "personality."
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
August 01 2011 05:59 GMT
#15599
Great tournament! I don't think MMA would mind too much losing the finals. Code S would be the more important thing imo
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
August 01 2011 06:18 GMT
#15600
As I predicted, DRG is left with nothing. As I also said, he should have gone through code A qualifiers in a normal way and just prepare better, just like Losira did.
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