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Cant believe theres so much hate in these threads while we're so blessed with a wonderful event, with wonderful games. Last warning, whine and insult the players or commentators? See you.
Carryz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States67 Posts
August 01 2011 05:02 GMT
#15561
LOL @ the fucking retards ITT.

brb caring more about personality than the actual video game that you're watching.
brb bitching about koreans dominating. i rather see shitty foreigners play and just drench myself in their flowing aroma of PERSONALITY
brb being retards

keep crying idiots

User was temp banned for this post.
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
August 01 2011 05:02 GMT
#15562
On August 01 2011 13:49 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Watching top players > watching good players. Always. Sure, it's harder to discern personalities through a translator and Koreans tend to be a little more reserved but you're not telling me Korean games don't have drama too and you can't seriously be telling me you only watch SCII for the drama anyway.

Hopefully foreigners start to train properly now that they don't have any tournaments where they can hide from the Koreans. Aside from Huk, Jinro and Naniwa there really aren't many with the right attitude.


Agreed. Im here to watch superb micro and control that i could never perform and their crisis management/decision making, player rivalries are fun and all but watching top level players drop/frontal assault/macro perfectly is just pure awesome.

The observer kind of sucked though
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 01 2011 05:02 GMT
#15563
On August 01 2011 13:56 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:51 redFF wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:38 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:36 Kiyo. wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:28 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:57 Flare23 wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:43 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
[quote]

Agreed. This MLG was so boring for me. Every second game had koreans with zero personality. I didn't see a single "omg epic" matchup like huk vs idra or something along those lines which MLG is famous for. Every day when I checked the matchlist upcoming for the day it just got more and more boring. I can't blame the koreans or the management because it would be unfair to not include them but...boy does it make events more boring for foreigner viewers. We already have gom...I'd like to see some foreigners play for once.

The skill gap between koreans and foreigners are getting bigger and bigger just like in BW.


Extremely rude, just wanted to point this comment out for more people to see. I wonder how many of you out there thinks just like this guy. Can't beat them? lets try to find other ways to bash them so you can feel better about your self and whatever "race/nationality" you relate to. You are a pathetic person, as are all the people who share your view.


Lol? Calm down bro. Just my opinion, I prefer watching foreigners, I'm pathetic because I prefer watching foreigners? Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean you need to go on a hissy-fit. Your post was more ban-worthy than mine, I'm not bashing any players or anybody at all, I'm saying I found this MLG boring compared to others, just a plain opinion. Events aren't perfect, just because it's starcraft doesn't mean it's perfect and heaven forbid there is a slight bit of criticism. You on the other hand are attacking me for these views, not very fair.

I'd rather watch Huk vs Idra than GanZi vs MVP...sorry if that makes me "pathetic".


It was your comment of "Koreans with zero personality". Just because you don't relate to them doesn't mean they don't have personality. You're just stereotyping all Koreans as having zero personality which is stupid.


I'm fairly sure that anyone who knows what personality is would agree and say that there was minimal personality in the Koreans this MLG.


Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?

IdrA vs cruncher was an awful series...


But the act before it built up the hype. Thats what I'm getting at.

It made me relive their TSL series.


There was no hype at all for that series. It was angry nerd #1 vs bad angry nerd #2. Their TSL series was shit, so was this one.

You seem to be a guy who loves to watch drama, I recommend WWE


Oh yeah, TSL series was shit... Even though I'm pretty sure Cruncher played a very solid first game and Idra showcased how good Overlord drops were against FE'ing Protoss. So many damn drops everywhere I was amazed how well Idra was playing and was impressed with the effort Cruncher put forth to try and hold.

God, everyone thinks it has to be drama... Why can't it be players just messing with each other? I don't get why the fuck you all insist it has to be drama, unless you're so used to seeing TV shows full of that shit.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
MBV
Profile Joined June 2011
United States83 Posts
August 01 2011 05:05 GMT
#15564
Koreans show as much personality as they can without being able to speak the same language as everybody who is there. Boxer and MMA cupping their hands around their ears to get the audience to cheer when they were tossing out a shirt. MVP giving MMA a hug after their series. The team Slayers group huddle for MMA before his match against MVP. They show plenty of personality, and are all extremely classy players.
Sideburn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
August 01 2011 05:06 GMT
#15565
On August 01 2011 13:59 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:57 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:57 draumr wrote:
How can people say the Koreans didn't have personality? Boxer was grinning ear to ear after he beat rain, MVP looked very happy when he won. People say MC has personality; the truth is MC speaks some broken english.

The language barrier breaks almost all attempts at displaying a personality. Have any of you ever been on a stage in front of thousands of people and all 1 person speaks the same language as you(the translator)? I suggest you watch the facial features and the hands of the koreans as they are given interviews, it shows most of them are brimming with emotion.

And besides, so far I have seen 3 specific names given out of people that have "personality" among dozens of people we saw in pool play and championship brackets, while there was a total of 8 Koreans. Those are the guys that the oddballs, not the norm.

MC's got personality cause he knows how to speak broken english, pimp walk, and wear aviators lol


That's basically it. Convince all of these Koreans to speak their broken English more, and suddenly, in the eyes of these complainers, they'll have more "personality."


Man, if you guys can't realize that MC has more personality than almost any player in the world, Korea or otherwise, then there is no hope for you.
Carryz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States67 Posts
August 01 2011 05:07 GMT
#15566
On August 01 2011 14:02 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:56 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:51 redFF wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:38 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:36 Kiyo. wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:28 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:57 Flare23 wrote:
[quote]

Extremely rude, just wanted to point this comment out for more people to see. I wonder how many of you out there thinks just like this guy. Can't beat them? lets try to find other ways to bash them so you can feel better about your self and whatever "race/nationality" you relate to. You are a pathetic person, as are all the people who share your view.


Lol? Calm down bro. Just my opinion, I prefer watching foreigners, I'm pathetic because I prefer watching foreigners? Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean you need to go on a hissy-fit. Your post was more ban-worthy than mine, I'm not bashing any players or anybody at all, I'm saying I found this MLG boring compared to others, just a plain opinion. Events aren't perfect, just because it's starcraft doesn't mean it's perfect and heaven forbid there is a slight bit of criticism. You on the other hand are attacking me for these views, not very fair.

I'd rather watch Huk vs Idra than GanZi vs MVP...sorry if that makes me "pathetic".


It was your comment of "Koreans with zero personality". Just because you don't relate to them doesn't mean they don't have personality. You're just stereotyping all Koreans as having zero personality which is stupid.


I'm fairly sure that anyone who knows what personality is would agree and say that there was minimal personality in the Koreans this MLG.


Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?

IdrA vs cruncher was an awful series...


But the act before it built up the hype. Thats what I'm getting at.

It made me relive their TSL series.


There was no hype at all for that series. It was angry nerd #1 vs bad angry nerd #2. Their TSL series was shit, so was this one.

You seem to be a guy who loves to watch drama, I recommend WWE


Oh yeah, TSL series was shit... Even though I'm pretty sure Cruncher played a very solid first game and Idra showcased how good Overlord drops were against FE'ing Protoss. So many damn drops everywhere I was amazed how well Idra was playing and was impressed with the effort Cruncher put forth to try and hold.

God, everyone thinks it has to be drama... Why can't it be players just messing with each other? I don't get why the fuck you all insist it has to be drama, unless you're so used to seeing TV shows full of that shit.


Probably because their normal every day life consists of them doing nothing but browsing TL and finding anything and everything to bitch about. With no actual human interaction, they yearn to see your average human being show their "personality." Amazing how a simple throat slice action or a soda can crush can rile up all the virgin phaggots on this forum.

Try to watch the tournament for COMPETITIVE GAMING for the GAMES rather than seeing a bunch of fake hype. Sad ass people.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 05:10:26
August 01 2011 05:08 GMT
#15567
Don't get how anyone can say the Koreans are robots and have no personality.
- DRG's tableflip in that game against MMA.
- MMA killing his own CC. (Unintentional, I'm sure, but hilarious.)
- Ganzi's somewhat adorable "im ur brother, go easy" moment in Ganzi vs. MVP. Followed by, y'know, one of the most intense TvTs ever.
- Boxer's ".................." and Rain's "T.T" followed by Boxer's "david some do it T>T."
- Boxer: "#1 plz. plz. gg. wp." I teared up.
- MMA vs. Boxer in general.
- MMA playing his fucking heart out against MVP.
- MVP being adorably awkward on-stage.
- Choya being Choya.
- All the hugs. Seriously.

Honestly, the only Korean you can accuse of not showing any personality is Alicia, and that's simply because he got knocked out so early. Check out Milkis's twitter meanwhile, and it gives you a look at those "boring Koreans." Sheesh.
Crayakz
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 05:09:21
August 01 2011 05:09 GMT
#15568
Well, all this personality and Korean/foreigner talk aside. This MLG was actually pretty crappy imo.. seriously, there were too many TvTs.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 01 2011 05:09 GMT
#15569
Korean 1-2-3

order of the universe is restored <3
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 05:14:35
August 01 2011 05:10 GMT
#15570
On August 01 2011 14:06 Sideburn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:59 Qaatar wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:57 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:57 draumr wrote:
How can people say the Koreans didn't have personality? Boxer was grinning ear to ear after he beat rain, MVP looked very happy when he won. People say MC has personality; the truth is MC speaks some broken english.

The language barrier breaks almost all attempts at displaying a personality. Have any of you ever been on a stage in front of thousands of people and all 1 person speaks the same language as you(the translator)? I suggest you watch the facial features and the hands of the koreans as they are given interviews, it shows most of them are brimming with emotion.

And besides, so far I have seen 3 specific names given out of people that have "personality" among dozens of people we saw in pool play and championship brackets, while there was a total of 8 Koreans. Those are the guys that the oddballs, not the norm.

MC's got personality cause he knows how to speak broken english, pimp walk, and wear aviators lol


That's basically it. Convince all of these Koreans to speak their broken English more, and suddenly, in the eyes of these complainers, they'll have more "personality."


Man, if you guys can't realize that MC has more personality than almost any player in the world, Korea or otherwise, then there is no hope for you.


...and a large part of his personality has to do with his courage to speak English even when he knows it's bad or makes him look foolish. Sure, that courage might not be in most Koreans, but that has more to do with general shyness that isn't necessarily how much "personality" a person has.

Edit: Just realized that MVP was wearing an Anaheim Ducks cap the whole time. Hahaha.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 01 2011 05:10 GMT
#15571
On August 01 2011 14:07 Carryz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 14:02 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:56 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:51 redFF wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:38 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:36 Kiyo. wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:28 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
[quote]

Lol? Calm down bro. Just my opinion, I prefer watching foreigners, I'm pathetic because I prefer watching foreigners? Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean you need to go on a hissy-fit. Your post was more ban-worthy than mine, I'm not bashing any players or anybody at all, I'm saying I found this MLG boring compared to others, just a plain opinion. Events aren't perfect, just because it's starcraft doesn't mean it's perfect and heaven forbid there is a slight bit of criticism. You on the other hand are attacking me for these views, not very fair.

I'd rather watch Huk vs Idra than GanZi vs MVP...sorry if that makes me "pathetic".


It was your comment of "Koreans with zero personality". Just because you don't relate to them doesn't mean they don't have personality. You're just stereotyping all Koreans as having zero personality which is stupid.


I'm fairly sure that anyone who knows what personality is would agree and say that there was minimal personality in the Koreans this MLG.


Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?

IdrA vs cruncher was an awful series...


But the act before it built up the hype. Thats what I'm getting at.

It made me relive their TSL series.


There was no hype at all for that series. It was angry nerd #1 vs bad angry nerd #2. Their TSL series was shit, so was this one.

You seem to be a guy who loves to watch drama, I recommend WWE


Oh yeah, TSL series was shit... Even though I'm pretty sure Cruncher played a very solid first game and Idra showcased how good Overlord drops were against FE'ing Protoss. So many damn drops everywhere I was amazed how well Idra was playing and was impressed with the effort Cruncher put forth to try and hold.

God, everyone thinks it has to be drama... Why can't it be players just messing with each other? I don't get why the fuck you all insist it has to be drama, unless you're so used to seeing TV shows full of that shit.


Probably because their normal every day life consists of them doing nothing but browsing TL and finding anything and everything to bitch about. With no actual human interaction, they yearn to see your average human being show their "personality." Amazing how a simple throat slice action or a soda can crush can rile up all the virgin phaggots on this forum.

Try to watch the tournament for COMPETITIVE GAMING for the GAMES rather than seeing a bunch of fake hype. Sad ass people.


TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
August 01 2011 05:13 GMT
#15572
I think MLG and Dreamhack have it perfectly...showcasing mainly code B/A players who have great skills but don't get seen a lot because of the punishing GSL format. People are seriously complaining about koreans in foreign tourneys? Foreigner only tourneys are boring as fuck nowadays...just look at IPL.
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
August 01 2011 05:13 GMT
#15573
On August 01 2011 14:02 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:56 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:51 redFF wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:38 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:36 Kiyo. wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:28 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
On August 01 2011 12:57 Flare23 wrote:
[quote]

Extremely rude, just wanted to point this comment out for more people to see. I wonder how many of you out there thinks just like this guy. Can't beat them? lets try to find other ways to bash them so you can feel better about your self and whatever "race/nationality" you relate to. You are a pathetic person, as are all the people who share your view.


Lol? Calm down bro. Just my opinion, I prefer watching foreigners, I'm pathetic because I prefer watching foreigners? Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean you need to go on a hissy-fit. Your post was more ban-worthy than mine, I'm not bashing any players or anybody at all, I'm saying I found this MLG boring compared to others, just a plain opinion. Events aren't perfect, just because it's starcraft doesn't mean it's perfect and heaven forbid there is a slight bit of criticism. You on the other hand are attacking me for these views, not very fair.

I'd rather watch Huk vs Idra than GanZi vs MVP...sorry if that makes me "pathetic".


It was your comment of "Koreans with zero personality". Just because you don't relate to them doesn't mean they don't have personality. You're just stereotyping all Koreans as having zero personality which is stupid.


I'm fairly sure that anyone who knows what personality is would agree and say that there was minimal personality in the Koreans this MLG.


Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?

IdrA vs cruncher was an awful series...


But the act before it built up the hype. Thats what I'm getting at.

It made me relive their TSL series.


There was no hype at all for that series. It was angry nerd #1 vs bad angry nerd #2. Their TSL series was shit, so was this one.

You seem to be a guy who loves to watch drama, I recommend WWE


Oh yeah, TSL series was shit... Even though I'm pretty sure Cruncher played a very solid first game and Idra showcased how good Overlord drops were against FE'ing Protoss. So many damn drops everywhere I was amazed how well Idra was playing and was impressed with the effort Cruncher put forth to try and hold.

God, everyone thinks it has to be drama... Why can't it be players just messing with each other? I don't get why the fuck you all insist it has to be drama, unless you're so used to seeing TV shows full of that shit.


Cruncher playing a solid game and IdrA doing drops is such a weak argument. Koreans play much more solid games than cruncher and IdrA flying a cloud of overlords filled with hydras and ending the game with that one play is not that awe inspiring. Like drops? How about watching MMA vs. BoxeR from this very tournament? Multipronged drops going on ALL GAME LONG.

And if you want to watch player messing with each other watch streams. And what is "players messing with each other" if not drama?
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 01 2011 05:13 GMT
#15574
On August 01 2011 14:06 Sideburn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:59 Qaatar wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:57 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:57 draumr wrote:
How can people say the Koreans didn't have personality? Boxer was grinning ear to ear after he beat rain, MVP looked very happy when he won. People say MC has personality; the truth is MC speaks some broken english.

The language barrier breaks almost all attempts at displaying a personality. Have any of you ever been on a stage in front of thousands of people and all 1 person speaks the same language as you(the translator)? I suggest you watch the facial features and the hands of the koreans as they are given interviews, it shows most of them are brimming with emotion.

And besides, so far I have seen 3 specific names given out of people that have "personality" among dozens of people we saw in pool play and championship brackets, while there was a total of 8 Koreans. Those are the guys that the oddballs, not the norm.

MC's got personality cause he knows how to speak broken english, pimp walk, and wear aviators lol


That's basically it. Convince all of these Koreans to speak their broken English more, and suddenly, in the eyes of these complainers, they'll have more "personality."


Man, if you guys can't realize that MC has more personality than almost any player in the world, Korea or otherwise, then there is no hope for you.


Well, I'll admit that I enjoyed Columbus more because of MC, and that the lower level of crowd enthusiasm at Anaheim probably reflects the effect of MC's personality.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
August 01 2011 05:14 GMT
#15575
On August 01 2011 14:10 Qaatar wrote:
...and a large part of his personality has to do with his courage to speak English even when he knows it's bad or makes him look foolish. Sure, that courage might not be in most Koreans, but that has more to do with general shyness that isn't necessarily how much "personality" a person has.



Sort of, even in Korea MC does stuff that most koreans don't do, for example like where he brought in his cardboard copy of him self and plopped it against the enemy team in the gstl, or when he sat on a chair in the middle of the whole studio, not to mention his throat slashing etc. The only people who I've seen done anything simillar is TOP with his nunchuks and Ace with his flags.
Go go Alliance.
Sideburn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
August 01 2011 05:15 GMT
#15576
On August 01 2011 14:10 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 14:06 Sideburn wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:59 Qaatar wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:57 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:57 draumr wrote:
How can people say the Koreans didn't have personality? Boxer was grinning ear to ear after he beat rain, MVP looked very happy when he won. People say MC has personality; the truth is MC speaks some broken english.

The language barrier breaks almost all attempts at displaying a personality. Have any of you ever been on a stage in front of thousands of people and all 1 person speaks the same language as you(the translator)? I suggest you watch the facial features and the hands of the koreans as they are given interviews, it shows most of them are brimming with emotion.

And besides, so far I have seen 3 specific names given out of people that have "personality" among dozens of people we saw in pool play and championship brackets, while there was a total of 8 Koreans. Those are the guys that the oddballs, not the norm.

MC's got personality cause he knows how to speak broken english, pimp walk, and wear aviators lol


That's basically it. Convince all of these Koreans to speak their broken English more, and suddenly, in the eyes of these complainers, they'll have more "personality."


Man, if you guys can't realize that MC has more personality than almost any player in the world, Korea or otherwise, then there is no hope for you.


...and a large part of his personality has to do with his courage to speak English even when he knows it's bad or makes him look foolish. Sure, that courage might not be in most Koreans, but that has more to do with general shyness that isn't necessarily how much "personality" a person has.


Very little has to do with what language he speaks. In fact, the fact he speaks english on occasion barely plays into it. It's WHAT he says. Have you seen interviews with him and the cocky responses he gives and the showboating he does? He isn't a douche like idrA. He showboats. It's great. It's fun. The crowd and fans get into it.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
August 01 2011 05:16 GMT
#15577
On August 01 2011 14:13 I)etox wrote:
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On August 01 2011 14:02 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:56 rysecake wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:51 redFF wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:45 Melix wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:38 Cloud9157 wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:36 Kiyo. wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:28 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
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Lol? Calm down bro. Just my opinion, I prefer watching foreigners, I'm pathetic because I prefer watching foreigners? Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean you need to go on a hissy-fit. Your post was more ban-worthy than mine, I'm not bashing any players or anybody at all, I'm saying I found this MLG boring compared to others, just a plain opinion. Events aren't perfect, just because it's starcraft doesn't mean it's perfect and heaven forbid there is a slight bit of criticism. You on the other hand are attacking me for these views, not very fair.

I'd rather watch Huk vs Idra than GanZi vs MVP...sorry if that makes me "pathetic".


It was your comment of "Koreans with zero personality". Just because you don't relate to them doesn't mean they don't have personality. You're just stereotyping all Koreans as having zero personality which is stupid.


I'm fairly sure that anyone who knows what personality is would agree and say that there was minimal personality in the Koreans this MLG.


Um, can you cite my any examples of where the foreigner match-ups were brimming over with personality this MLG? It's not like anyone is going to be talking about the zany antics of Sjow v. Haypro for weeks to come. And having Boxer play deep into an SC2 tourney is all the drama that a true Starcraft fan should ever need.


Idra vs Cruncher
White Ra in general. Why do you think he got such an awesome reception?
How about Tyler?

IdrA vs cruncher was an awful series...


But the act before it built up the hype. Thats what I'm getting at.

It made me relive their TSL series.


There was no hype at all for that series. It was angry nerd #1 vs bad angry nerd #2. Their TSL series was shit, so was this one.

You seem to be a guy who loves to watch drama, I recommend WWE


Oh yeah, TSL series was shit... Even though I'm pretty sure Cruncher played a very solid first game and Idra showcased how good Overlord drops were against FE'ing Protoss. So many damn drops everywhere I was amazed how well Idra was playing and was impressed with the effort Cruncher put forth to try and hold.

God, everyone thinks it has to be drama... Why can't it be players just messing with each other? I don't get why the fuck you all insist it has to be drama, unless you're so used to seeing TV shows full of that shit.


Cruncher playing a solid game and IdrA doing drops is such a weak argument. Koreans play much more solid games than cruncher and IdrA flying a cloud of overlords filled with hydras and ending the game with that one play is not that awe inspiring. Like drops? How about watching MMA vs. BoxeR from this very tournament? Multipronged drops going on ALL GAME LONG.

And if you want to watch player messing with each other watch streams. And what is "players messing with each other" if not drama?


And I won't argue that guys like MMA have ridiculous drops. I think he dropped 3 locations at once at one point, at least 2. Was very ridiculous.

If you want to consider it a weak argument, go ahead, but I found it entertaining.

Players messing with each other is having fun. Its about showing that Koreans aren't the scary, "I'll kill you" pro gamers. Its to show that they have fun just like everyone else.

I would go as far as calling it building foreign relations between Korean gamers and foreign gamers.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
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Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
August 01 2011 05:17 GMT
#15578
On August 01 2011 14:15 Sideburn wrote:
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On August 01 2011 14:10 Qaatar wrote:
On August 01 2011 14:06 Sideburn wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:59 Qaatar wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:57 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:57 draumr wrote:
How can people say the Koreans didn't have personality? Boxer was grinning ear to ear after he beat rain, MVP looked very happy when he won. People say MC has personality; the truth is MC speaks some broken english.

The language barrier breaks almost all attempts at displaying a personality. Have any of you ever been on a stage in front of thousands of people and all 1 person speaks the same language as you(the translator)? I suggest you watch the facial features and the hands of the koreans as they are given interviews, it shows most of them are brimming with emotion.

And besides, so far I have seen 3 specific names given out of people that have "personality" among dozens of people we saw in pool play and championship brackets, while there was a total of 8 Koreans. Those are the guys that the oddballs, not the norm.

MC's got personality cause he knows how to speak broken english, pimp walk, and wear aviators lol


That's basically it. Convince all of these Koreans to speak their broken English more, and suddenly, in the eyes of these complainers, they'll have more "personality."


Man, if you guys can't realize that MC has more personality than almost any player in the world, Korea or otherwise, then there is no hope for you.


...and a large part of his personality has to do with his courage to speak English even when he knows it's bad or makes him look foolish. Sure, that courage might not be in most Koreans, but that has more to do with general shyness that isn't necessarily how much "personality" a person has.


Very little has to do with what language he speaks. In fact, the fact he speaks english on occasion barely plays into it. It's WHAT he says. Have you seen interviews with him and the cocky responses he gives and the showboating he does? He isn't a douche like idrA. He showboats. It's great. It's fun. The crowd and fans get into it.


Have you read the GSL interviews with guys like NesTea and FD? Or Byun? As much interesting/personality showcasing stuff as MC, if not more. NesTea is also cocky as hell. Unforunately, they don't do it in English, or showcase it in physical antics like MC, so no one notices/cares, or it's lessened. So yes, it has everything to do with language.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
August 01 2011 05:17 GMT
#15579
Boxer fuck yeah!!!!!
striderxxx
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada443 Posts
August 01 2011 05:18 GMT
#15580
winning trumps personality!!! who cares about a big personality like destiny who is just merely average in play talent when you can be an elite talent who actually wins without an overblown personality like mvp.
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