|
On July 27 2011 00:18 KimJongChill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 22:30 Trowa127 wrote:
Rain is actually really good, hope he takes it. As Socke proved in the IPL, Destiny is very gimmicky and has huge timing holes in all his builds, hopefully Rain will exploit these.
Just to expand on this - he beats alot of his opponents with really wierd timings, or just strange builds - In the IPL he beat socke game one with his two base infestor rush, in game 3 Socke just took a really quick third and rolled it with gate way units and archons. Destiny lost game one, although it was really down to the wire. Game two he did something really cool to win. Can't remember game three, so I guess it wasn't very good.
I thought he won game one and then Socke did a cannon rush game two and took game 3?
EDIT - Sorry that was Axslav, my bad guys, but the point stands.
|
Bomber > Rain,
Destiny > Bomber.
'nuff said.
|
This looks promising. I think Rain will take this one, not sure tho since i dont really know much about Destiny
|
On July 27 2011 00:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Bomber > Rain,
Destiny > Bomber.
'nuff said.
The transitive property does not apply to sports or e-sports. Many different factors determine why a player loses to another.
I don't see Destiny winning a bo5 against any competent player. His advantage is surprisingly people with his low econ, Infestor rush. Once people learn to turtle into a 3rd instead of doing the standard 2 base Terran push, they would have effectively countered Destiny's build.
|
Russian Federation823 Posts
This is probably one of the worst threads i have ever read here.
However, interested in seeing Rain again after forfeiting his Code S spot. Destiny is the underdog, but let's see.
|
Just whisper into Rain's ear that destiny will use infestor lings, and automatically destiny chances will fall down.
|
On July 27 2011 00:44 denzelz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 00:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Bomber > Rain,
Destiny > Bomber.
'nuff said. The transitive property does not apply to sports or e-sports. Many different factors determine why a player loses to another. I don't see Destiny winning a bo5 against any competent player. His advantage is surprisingly people with his low econ, Infestor rush. Once people learn to turtle into a 3rd instead of doing the standard 2 base Terran push, they would have effectively countered Destiny's build.
I really feel people don't give destiny enough credit. His top level of play can easily compete with top high level players, there's no doubt in my mind he could have a solid chance of beating a lot of Koreans. I think some of his decision making can be questionable, but I don't think I've ever Destiny lose a ZvT in super late game, at least not that often. Of course, your original point is assuming Rain is going to bother trying to research Destiny for just 50 bucks, in a bo5, I doubt it.
Destiny fighting.
|
On July 26 2011 22:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 22:38 Ipp wrote:If you think either player is bad, you have not watched either of them recently. Both are very strong and have most likely been training for MLG. On July 26 2011 22:36 Jombozeus wrote:Who is Destiny?
Destiny has been in the top 200 of NA Ladder since the launch of Starcraft II and is one of the few players who can support themselves via Starcraft alone. He was apart of ROOT-Gaming but left shortly after the merger with Complexity Gaming and is currently teamless. Additionally, Destiny just won the Starcraft Miami Star League taking out his former clan leader Catz in the finals 3:2.
Destiny hasn't been top 200 since the launch of SC2... Who told you that o_O He made it into Grand Masters which is the top 200 of NA? Umm, GM hasn't existed since the launch of sc2....
Agreed, but Destiny has indeed been ranked in top 200 NA since the first time Blizzard released a list of the top 200. Remember that they used to release a weekly ranking.
|
On July 27 2011 00:44 denzelz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 00:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Bomber > Rain,
Destiny > Bomber.
'nuff said. The transitive property does not apply to sports or e-sports. Many different factors determine why a player loses to another. I don't see Destiny winning a bo5 against any competent player. His advantage is surprisingly people with his low econ, Infestor rush. Once people learn to turtle into a 3rd instead of doing the standard 2 base Terran push, they would have effectively countered Destiny's build.
LOL, I think you are still in denial that Destiny beat 2-1 Bomber and also beat 2-0 Ace xD
|
On July 26 2011 22:47 CajunMan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 22:36 Bagi wrote:On July 26 2011 22:26 Gao Xi wrote:
Destiny is going to win, more because Rain is bad. Yeah, just a longtime code S player, he must suck horribly. The infestor-masser whose biggest achievement is having a popular stream will surely beat him. Yep cuz destiny has never beaten a top player let alone a top korean player never happened.....
This makes no sense , if you beat one korean you can beat them all?
Remember when socke 2-0'd MKP? Is Socke now the best player in the world?
|
On July 27 2011 00:53 carloselcoco wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 00:44 denzelz wrote:On July 27 2011 00:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Bomber > Rain,
Destiny > Bomber.
'nuff said. The transitive property does not apply to sports or e-sports. Many different factors determine why a player loses to another. I don't see Destiny winning a bo5 against any competent player. His advantage is surprisingly people with his low econ, Infestor rush. Once people learn to turtle into a 3rd instead of doing the standard 2 base Terran push, they would have effectively countered Destiny's build. LOL, I think you are still in denial that Destiny beat 2-1 Bomber and also beat 2-0 Ace xD
and ret beat mc etc etc in nasl
then mc is at a lan and smashes face
let destiny play someone who isnt on 400 ms ping then talk about his abiltiy to beat koreans
|
On July 27 2011 00:53 carloselcoco wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 00:44 denzelz wrote:On July 27 2011 00:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Bomber > Rain,
Destiny > Bomber.
'nuff said. The transitive property does not apply to sports or e-sports. Many different factors determine why a player loses to another. I don't see Destiny winning a bo5 against any competent player. His advantage is surprisingly people with his low econ, Infestor rush. Once people learn to turtle into a 3rd instead of doing the standard 2 base Terran push, they would have effectively countered Destiny's build. LOL, I think you are still in denial that Destiny beat 2-1 Bomber and also beat 2-0 Ace xD
If you still think online results equal major tournament success, I don't even know what to say to you.
|
On July 27 2011 00:57 turdburgler wrote:
let destiny play someone who isnt on 400 ms ping then talk about his abiltiy to beat koreans
He did. He played ZeNEXPuzzle (Code A champion) on the KR server and dominated him. Took an entire series from him 2-1 I believe, possibly 2-0.
How many more top Koreans do we need to put in front of Destiny for him to knock down til people give him credit? I'm pretty sure Destiny could win GSL and people would still say he was no good. HuK believes Destiny is pretty skilled and a good played (as Jinros mentioned HuK saying before), so why is it so hard for people on here to give any credit?
EDIT: He beat Puzzle 3-1
|
On July 27 2011 00:57 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 00:53 carloselcoco wrote:On July 27 2011 00:44 denzelz wrote:On July 27 2011 00:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Bomber > Rain,
Destiny > Bomber.
'nuff said. The transitive property does not apply to sports or e-sports. Many different factors determine why a player loses to another. I don't see Destiny winning a bo5 against any competent player. His advantage is surprisingly people with his low econ, Infestor rush. Once people learn to turtle into a 3rd instead of doing the standard 2 base Terran push, they would have effectively countered Destiny's build. LOL, I think you are still in denial that Destiny beat 2-1 Bomber and also beat 2-0 Ace xD and ret beat mc etc etc in nasl then mc is at a lan and smashes face let destiny play someone who isnt on 400 ms ping then talk about his abiltiy to beat koreans
He actually beat ZeNexPuzzle today 3-1 ( they played 3 times on NA and once on Korean server - Destiny won the Korean server game ).
I am only bringing this up because you brought up ping.
|
Online results mean nothing. If you don't do it at a LAN it's not worth a thing. If he gets into MLG Championship play then yeah I will give him credit as a top end foreign player.
|
On July 26 2011 22:47 CajunMan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 22:36 Bagi wrote:On July 26 2011 22:26 Gao Xi wrote:
Destiny is going to win, more because Rain is bad. Yeah, just a longtime code S player, he must suck horribly. The infestor-masser whose biggest achievement is having a popular stream will surely beat him. Yep cuz destiny has never beaten a top player let alone a top korean player never happened.....
I guess huk doesnt count then lol
|
On July 27 2011 01:19 lunchforthesky wrote:
Online results mean nothing. If you don't do it at a LAN it's not worth a thing. If he gets into MLG Championship play then yeah I will give him credit as a top end foreign player.
I wanted to say that too and add NASL, then I noticed that to get into NASL you need to place high in an online tournament. :-/
Besides, big lans are rare, big online tournaments are much more often. So even though it's online, their mass makes a better judge of a player's capabilities.
|
On July 27 2011 01:11 r4pture wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 00:57 turdburgler wrote:
let destiny play someone who isnt on 400 ms ping then talk about his abiltiy to beat koreans
He did. He played ZeNEXPuzzle (Code A champion) on the KR server and dominated him. Took an entire series from him 2-1 I believe, possibly 2-0. How many more top Koreans do we need to put in front of Destiny for him to knock down til people give him credit? I'm pretty sure Destiny could win GSL and people would still say he was no good. HuK believes Destiny is pretty skilled and a good played (as Jinros mentioned HuK saying before), so why is it so hard for people on here to give any credit?
Give him credit when he gets actual MAJOR tournament results. He has literally no tournament results and people credit him as being better then bomber or puzzle( who actually have tournament results). Destiny would get smashed if he went to korea to compete. Why? Cause he gets smashed in foreign tournaments.
|
To OP: I recommend you talk to Cella if you're looking for more players for the future.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
