EPTOn July 21 2011 11:38 AxionSteel wrote:
Completely outclassed
Completely outclassed
In PvP :/
iCCup/Nationvoice Korean Weekly Finals #1 - $500! - Page 50
| Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments |
|
HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
In PvP :/ | ||
|
bovi
Japan208 Posts
thanks orb. great games, thanks to the sponsors too. | ||
|
babylon
8765 Posts
 | ||
|
AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
You can't be a great player if you have a really weak matchup, and that was pretty weak play. | ||
|
figq
12519 Posts
| ||
|
StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
YoungHwa is a PvP master, no shame in losing to him. | ||
|
Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
| ||
|
Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On July 21 2011 11:40 AxionSteel wrote: You can't be a great player if you have a really weak matchup, and that was pretty weak play. Yeah, most great players have weaker matchups, but they're still pretty decent in them. Bomber's TvZ, MVP's TvP, Losira's ZvT, but sage's PvP just seems downright awful.... | ||
|
Qaatar
1409 Posts
| ||
|
Azuroz
Sweden1630 Posts
| ||
|
HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On July 21 2011 11:40 AxionSteel wrote: You can't be a great player if you have a really weak matchup, and that was pretty weak play. Where did I say Sage was a great player? Your response is irrelevant to what we're talking about. | ||
|
babylon
8765 Posts
On July 21 2011 11:41 Itsmedudeman wrote: Yeah, most great players have weaker matchups, but they're still pretty decent in them. Bomber's TvZ, MVP's TvP, Losira's ZvT, but sage's PvP just seems downright awful.... Well, Losira's ZvT used to be absolute shit. Same with HuK's PvP. ... hopefully Sage can work on that a little bit. At least he's not like an InCa. One good match-up, two shitty ones. Lol. | ||
|
Qaatar
1409 Posts
On July 21 2011 11:43 babylon wrote: Well, Losira's ZvT used to be absolute shit. Same with HuK's PvP. ... hopefully Sage can work on that a little bit. At least he's not like an InCa. One good match-up, two shitty ones. Lol. Not certain if that's the case anymore, after he discovered how great the mass-muta style can be. TOP's TvZ is monstrous, yet Losira defeated him quite handily imo. | ||
|
HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On July 21 2011 11:43 babylon wrote: Well, Losira's ZvT used to be absolute shit. Same with HuK's PvP. ... hopefully Sage can work on that a little bit. At least he's not like an InCa. One good match-up, two shitty ones. Lol. Yeah, it's far, far better to have 2 good matchups and 1 shitty one than the opposite - I may be stating the obvious, but it really makes all the difference in how people perceive you, since you're either good at the majority of the MU's or good at a minority (in the case of 3 MUs, only one) of matchups. You become this player that kind of takes out "overall better" players by luck of the draw. I'd like to make it clear that I'm not talking about Sage and Yonghwa in particular, since I actually think Yonghwa has 2 strong MUs himself - PvP and PvT (no idea about his PvZ), but I still think Sage's PvT and vZ are stronger, and more entertaining overall. Thus it's not so bad to see Sage losing to Yonghwa like that, but imagine if Inca knocked out MC T_T | ||
|
dooraven
Australia2820 Posts
| ||
|
babylon
8765 Posts
On July 21 2011 11:46 Qaatar wrote: Not certain if that's the case anymore, after he discovered how great the mass-muta style can be. TOP's TvZ is monstrous, yet Losira defeated him quite handily imo. That's why I said it used to be absolute shit. He's been doing very well lately in his ZvT, though his past performance in that match-up was so horrible that his win-percentage is still sitting at a 41%. Same with Huk, really. His PvP is still at a 35.7%. I remember that series where he won against San. It was pretty hilarious because San's PvP win-percentage actually went up after he lost the series. Pretty horrible. | ||
|
Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
edit: there we go. | ||
|
Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
On July 21 2011 11:42 HolyArrow wrote: Where did I say Sage was a great player? Your response is irrelevant to what we're talking about. Who is "we"? Does that include AxionSteel, the one who made the original post? Does he not get a say in what the two of you are talking about? At that, were you really "talking" about anything, at least anything more complicated than a very simple and obvious complaint about PvP? | ||
|
Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
| ||
|
HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On July 21 2011 11:52 Nimic wrote: Who is "we"? Does that include AxionSteel, the one who made the original post? Does he not get a say in what the two of you are talking about? At that, were you really "talking" about anything, at least anything more complicated than a very simple and obvious complaint about PvP? Well, conversations have purposes, and I feel that my purpose was clear: to state that the unfairly general declaration of how Sage was "completely outclassed" should be specified to only PvP. My point in calling his response irrelevant was because I don't see how whether or not Sage is a "great player" had anything to do with what we were previously talking about. So, sure, he gets to say as much as he wants, but when it's something that seems irrelevant to the initial conversation, I'd rather point it out rather than going down another tangent (which happens a lot on the internet). | ||
| ||
