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On July 10 2011 16:02 Prestine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 12:58 jongim wrote:
translator. you are making MC look bad. thats not what he said Ahh sorry if I made him look bad. Really, I didn't mean to do that... After all, I love MC! I was trying to follow everything he was saying, and I guess I mis-interpreted certain things he was talking about. I definitely need more improvements. Thanks for the comments!
Keep it up, you did great!
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On July 10 2011 16:27 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 16:13 XaI)CyRiC wrote:Just wanted to pop in here to say that attending the event today was great and the games were a lot of fun to watch. I love that it ended with Sen vs. MC, a great series with a lot of back and forth. A bit sad that Sen didn't win, but MC just played so well. MC's crowd interactions were simply awesome  Say hi plz! Would love to meet you
We did meet. I'm the Asian guy who came over and said "I just wanted to say that you're doing a great job." I didn't realize until later that I probably should have identified myself.
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On July 10 2011 13:34 dangerjoe wrote:lol couldnt resist making another one :D ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gK9hM.jpg)
LOL BEST PICTURE EVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MC FIGHTING
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On July 10 2011 13:37 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 13:35 Atasu wrote:On July 10 2011 13:25 AxionSteel wrote:10 Protoss Canada HuK Liquid $30,799.00 20 Zerg USA IdrA EG $20,801.00 At the end of the day, HuK laughs all the way to the bank HuK: "Yo Idra whats better then money?" Idra: "what..." HuK: "MO MONEY" :D wow if canada has won more money then USA then that's pretty jokes considering our populations
FYI Sweden has less than a third of the Canadian population, and the Swedish players have still made the most next to the Koreans. Joke's on you 
http://ehcg.djgamblore.com./compare.php?field=country
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On July 10 2011 16:09 CEPEHDREI wrote:
i missed todays games. do i have to pay $25 just to see them? or is there a finals package?
$10 for VOD access now. And you get the whole season for that price.
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eehr stream isnt working? When are the games being casted?
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Damnit I really wanna see Sen vs. MC. I went to my friends bday party and missed it, other than the start. I really wish they were free on LQ just like GSL.
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On July 10 2011 17:00 Dexington wrote:
Damnit I really wanna see Sen vs. MC. I went to my friends bday party and missed it, other than the start. I really wish they were free on LQ just like GSL.
Tis on youtube.
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to bad sen lost in such a close serie, best zerg outside korea keep it up
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On July 10 2011 13:29 Blacklizard wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 13:14 Noocta wrote:On July 10 2011 13:12 Dommk wrote:On July 10 2011 13:04 Turbo.Tactics wrote:On July 10 2011 13:01 Condor Hero wrote:On July 10 2011 13:00 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
Can't believe I actually rely on a Terran whiping MC's butt... sad day for Zerg -.- dude if anyone can take out mc there its a korean terran. korean terrans are just scary as shit in general. Yeah sure but the fact that I have to trust on Koriterrans because Zergs aren't able to handle it is a disgrace... You have the best Protoss in the world arguable facing a good Zerg but who isn't the same skill level as him, but MC still had some tough games and should have lost if Sen didn't make so many Broods, yet you passively cry about balance? Imagine if that was NesTea or DRG playing, MC would have got rolled. ZvP feels like its favored towards Zerg, the best Toss right now shouldn't be sweating it against anyone other than the best Zergs really Can you seriously say that the level of SEn play today wasn't in the same boat than Losira or Nestea ZvP ? These games were insane. Sen played very well in many aspects, and no doubt he deserved to be in the top few for NASL... but mainly he studied and countered MC's builds that have been very well known lately. 1 Gate fast expand stargate. Hmmm, make spore crawlers and lots of queens, maybe fast hydras or muta/corruptor. If he goes for a dark templar rush, your spores cover you. Yep, that sums up the opening pretty well I'd say. The thing I admired Sen for doing well was countering smoothly and not being too greedy early on (waiting till last minute to build a spore... or only one spore for 3 bases, etc.). That got him into the late game sitting pretty. Stargate is a risky tech if Zerg desides to plan for it, because late game infestors/banes/broodlords are hard to deal with. Vs Fungal, blink becomes semi-useless and air becomes semi-useless. What then? Bane drops vs. forcefields and fungals are rough. Forcefields counter banelings only early on... later baneling drops counter sentries unless the Protoss has breathing room to FF retreat and the Zerg doesn't smartly back off to allow wasted sentry energy. Protoss needs perfect psi storms, instant reaction time against bane drops on probes, and a little luck with dark templars or something. Sums up the end of the last couple of games pretty well I'd say. So it's no wonder so many Protoss are going for 2 base all-ins vs Zerg most of the time. MC probably should have tried it at least one game. But Sen's big battle micro was lacking... his engagements were often not carefully done and it along with other mistakes cost him. NesTea would have had better engagements and wouldn't lose to dark templars, especially once he saw the tech out.
I wish MC would do more his old style 4/5/6 gate timing attacks to mix things up. He's getting too predictable and tries to force macro games sometimes resulting in loses and definitely predicting penix /VR harass putting him behind. I think he took early criticism to heart unfortunately making his arsenal weaker.
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On July 10 2011 17:02 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 13:29 Blacklizard wrote:On July 10 2011 13:14 Noocta wrote:On July 10 2011 13:12 Dommk wrote:On July 10 2011 13:04 Turbo.Tactics wrote:On July 10 2011 13:01 Condor Hero wrote:On July 10 2011 13:00 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
Can't believe I actually rely on a Terran whiping MC's butt... sad day for Zerg -.- dude if anyone can take out mc there its a korean terran. korean terrans are just scary as shit in general. Yeah sure but the fact that I have to trust on Koriterrans because Zergs aren't able to handle it is a disgrace... You have the best Protoss in the world arguable facing a good Zerg but who isn't the same skill level as him, but MC still had some tough games and should have lost if Sen didn't make so many Broods, yet you passively cry about balance? Imagine if that was NesTea or DRG playing, MC would have got rolled. ZvP feels like its favored towards Zerg, the best Toss right now shouldn't be sweating it against anyone other than the best Zergs really Can you seriously say that the level of SEn play today wasn't in the same boat than Losira or Nestea ZvP ? These games were insane. Sen played very well in many aspects, and no doubt he deserved to be in the top few for NASL... but mainly he studied and countered MC's builds that have been very well known lately. 1 Gate fast expand stargate. Hmmm, make spore crawlers and lots of queens, maybe fast hydras or muta/corruptor. If he goes for a dark templar rush, your spores cover you. Yep, that sums up the opening pretty well I'd say. The thing I admired Sen for doing well was countering smoothly and not being too greedy early on (waiting till last minute to build a spore... or only one spore for 3 bases, etc.). That got him into the late game sitting pretty. Stargate is a risky tech if Zerg desides to plan for it, because late game infestors/banes/broodlords are hard to deal with. Vs Fungal, blink becomes semi-useless and air becomes semi-useless. What then? Bane drops vs. forcefields and fungals are rough. Forcefields counter banelings only early on... later baneling drops counter sentries unless the Protoss has breathing room to FF retreat and the Zerg doesn't smartly back off to allow wasted sentry energy. Protoss needs perfect psi storms, instant reaction time against bane drops on probes, and a little luck with dark templars or something. Sums up the end of the last couple of games pretty well I'd say. So it's no wonder so many Protoss are going for 2 base all-ins vs Zerg most of the time. MC probably should have tried it at least one game. But Sen's big battle micro was lacking... his engagements were often not carefully done and it along with other mistakes cost him. NesTea would have had better engagements and wouldn't lose to dark templars, especially once he saw the tech out. I wish MC would do more his old style 4/5/6 gate timing attacks to mix things up. He's getting too predictable and tries to force macro games sometimes resulting in loses and definitely predicting penix /VR harass putting him behind. I think he took early criticism to heart unfortunately making his arsenal weaker.
4/5/6 gate timing attacks aren't as good as they used to be.
zergs got so much better at defending them, they're finally a great risk for protoss.
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On July 10 2011 17:02 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 13:29 Blacklizard wrote:On July 10 2011 13:14 Noocta wrote:On July 10 2011 13:12 Dommk wrote:On July 10 2011 13:04 Turbo.Tactics wrote:On July 10 2011 13:01 Condor Hero wrote:On July 10 2011 13:00 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
Can't believe I actually rely on a Terran whiping MC's butt... sad day for Zerg -.- dude if anyone can take out mc there its a korean terran. korean terrans are just scary as shit in general. Yeah sure but the fact that I have to trust on Koriterrans because Zergs aren't able to handle it is a disgrace... You have the best Protoss in the world arguable facing a good Zerg but who isn't the same skill level as him, but MC still had some tough games and should have lost if Sen didn't make so many Broods, yet you passively cry about balance? Imagine if that was NesTea or DRG playing, MC would have got rolled. ZvP feels like its favored towards Zerg, the best Toss right now shouldn't be sweating it against anyone other than the best Zergs really Can you seriously say that the level of SEn play today wasn't in the same boat than Losira or Nestea ZvP ? These games were insane. Sen played very well in many aspects, and no doubt he deserved to be in the top few for NASL... but mainly he studied and countered MC's builds that have been very well known lately. 1 Gate fast expand stargate. Hmmm, make spore crawlers and lots of queens, maybe fast hydras or muta/corruptor. If he goes for a dark templar rush, your spores cover you. Yep, that sums up the opening pretty well I'd say. The thing I admired Sen for doing well was countering smoothly and not being too greedy early on (waiting till last minute to build a spore... or only one spore for 3 bases, etc.). That got him into the late game sitting pretty. Stargate is a risky tech if Zerg desides to plan for it, because late game infestors/banes/broodlords are hard to deal with. Vs Fungal, blink becomes semi-useless and air becomes semi-useless. What then? Bane drops vs. forcefields and fungals are rough. Forcefields counter banelings only early on... later baneling drops counter sentries unless the Protoss has breathing room to FF retreat and the Zerg doesn't smartly back off to allow wasted sentry energy. Protoss needs perfect psi storms, instant reaction time against bane drops on probes, and a little luck with dark templars or something. Sums up the end of the last couple of games pretty well I'd say. So it's no wonder so many Protoss are going for 2 base all-ins vs Zerg most of the time. MC probably should have tried it at least one game. But Sen's big battle micro was lacking... his engagements were often not carefully done and it along with other mistakes cost him. NesTea would have had better engagements and wouldn't lose to dark templars, especially once he saw the tech out. I wish MC would do more his old style 4/5/6 gate timing attacks to mix things up. He's getting too predictable and tries to force macro games sometimes resulting in loses and definitely predicting penix /VR harass putting him behind. I think he took early criticism to heart unfortunately making his arsenal weaker.
It really is a testament to MC's overall macro and mechanics that he can win these games without doing any damage with his air.
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On July 10 2011 16:58 sC)oRacle wrote:
eehr stream isnt working? When are the games being casted?
Day 2 ended already... If you are asking when Day 3 starts, the opening ceremony starts at 19:00 GMT (+00:00).
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I really wish the person creating the thread would actually update it... It wasn't updated for the last few games yesterday either.
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On July 10 2011 17:16 snafoo wrote:
I really wish the person creating the thread would actually update it... It wasn't updated for the last few games yesterday either.
He's a mod so he's untouchable for the most part >:
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On July 10 2011 17:16 snafoo wrote:
I really wish the person creating the thread would actually update it... It wasn't updated for the last few games yesterday either.
I completly agree, i always go on my mobile to check results if im not by the computer, and quite frustrating its almost never up to date.
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On July 10 2011 17:08 Elefanto wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 17:02 tdt wrote:On July 10 2011 13:29 Blacklizard wrote:On July 10 2011 13:14 Noocta wrote:On July 10 2011 13:12 Dommk wrote:On July 10 2011 13:04 Turbo.Tactics wrote:On July 10 2011 13:01 Condor Hero wrote:On July 10 2011 13:00 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
Can't believe I actually rely on a Terran whiping MC's butt... sad day for Zerg -.- dude if anyone can take out mc there its a korean terran. korean terrans are just scary as shit in general. Yeah sure but the fact that I have to trust on Koriterrans because Zergs aren't able to handle it is a disgrace... You have the best Protoss in the world arguable facing a good Zerg but who isn't the same skill level as him, but MC still had some tough games and should have lost if Sen didn't make so many Broods, yet you passively cry about balance? Imagine if that was NesTea or DRG playing, MC would have got rolled. ZvP feels like its favored towards Zerg, the best Toss right now shouldn't be sweating it against anyone other than the best Zergs really Can you seriously say that the level of SEn play today wasn't in the same boat than Losira or Nestea ZvP ? These games were insane. Sen played very well in many aspects, and no doubt he deserved to be in the top few for NASL... but mainly he studied and countered MC's builds that have been very well known lately. 1 Gate fast expand stargate. Hmmm, make spore crawlers and lots of queens, maybe fast hydras or muta/corruptor. If he goes for a dark templar rush, your spores cover you. Yep, that sums up the opening pretty well I'd say. The thing I admired Sen for doing well was countering smoothly and not being too greedy early on (waiting till last minute to build a spore... or only one spore for 3 bases, etc.). That got him into the late game sitting pretty. Stargate is a risky tech if Zerg desides to plan for it, because late game infestors/banes/broodlords are hard to deal with. Vs Fungal, blink becomes semi-useless and air becomes semi-useless. What then? Bane drops vs. forcefields and fungals are rough. Forcefields counter banelings only early on... later baneling drops counter sentries unless the Protoss has breathing room to FF retreat and the Zerg doesn't smartly back off to allow wasted sentry energy. Protoss needs perfect psi storms, instant reaction time against bane drops on probes, and a little luck with dark templars or something. Sums up the end of the last couple of games pretty well I'd say. So it's no wonder so many Protoss are going for 2 base all-ins vs Zerg most of the time. MC probably should have tried it at least one game. But Sen's big battle micro was lacking... his engagements were often not carefully done and it along with other mistakes cost him. NesTea would have had better engagements and wouldn't lose to dark templars, especially once he saw the tech out. I wish MC would do more his old style 4/5/6 gate timing attacks to mix things up. He's getting too predictable and tries to force macro games sometimes resulting in loses and definitely predicting penix /VR harass putting him behind. I think he took early criticism to heart unfortunately making his arsenal weaker. 4/5/6 gate timing attacks aren't as good as they used to be. zergs got so much better at defending them, they're finally a great risk for protoss.
Oh they are, it's just that MC is obliged to provide entertainment hence the macro games. Give him tougher opponents and we'll probably see a lot more timing pushes.
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On July 10 2011 17:11 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 17:02 tdt wrote:On July 10 2011 13:29 Blacklizard wrote:On July 10 2011 13:14 Noocta wrote:On July 10 2011 13:12 Dommk wrote:On July 10 2011 13:04 Turbo.Tactics wrote:On July 10 2011 13:01 Condor Hero wrote:On July 10 2011 13:00 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
Can't believe I actually rely on a Terran whiping MC's butt... sad day for Zerg -.- dude if anyone can take out mc there its a korean terran. korean terrans are just scary as shit in general. Yeah sure but the fact that I have to trust on Koriterrans because Zergs aren't able to handle it is a disgrace... You have the best Protoss in the world arguable facing a good Zerg but who isn't the same skill level as him, but MC still had some tough games and should have lost if Sen didn't make so many Broods, yet you passively cry about balance? Imagine if that was NesTea or DRG playing, MC would have got rolled. ZvP feels like its favored towards Zerg, the best Toss right now shouldn't be sweating it against anyone other than the best Zergs really Can you seriously say that the level of SEn play today wasn't in the same boat than Losira or Nestea ZvP ? These games were insane. Sen played very well in many aspects, and no doubt he deserved to be in the top few for NASL... but mainly he studied and countered MC's builds that have been very well known lately. 1 Gate fast expand stargate. Hmmm, make spore crawlers and lots of queens, maybe fast hydras or muta/corruptor. If he goes for a dark templar rush, your spores cover you. Yep, that sums up the opening pretty well I'd say. The thing I admired Sen for doing well was countering smoothly and not being too greedy early on (waiting till last minute to build a spore... or only one spore for 3 bases, etc.). That got him into the late game sitting pretty. Stargate is a risky tech if Zerg desides to plan for it, because late game infestors/banes/broodlords are hard to deal with. Vs Fungal, blink becomes semi-useless and air becomes semi-useless. What then? Bane drops vs. forcefields and fungals are rough. Forcefields counter banelings only early on... later baneling drops counter sentries unless the Protoss has breathing room to FF retreat and the Zerg doesn't smartly back off to allow wasted sentry energy. Protoss needs perfect psi storms, instant reaction time against bane drops on probes, and a little luck with dark templars or something. Sums up the end of the last couple of games pretty well I'd say. So it's no wonder so many Protoss are going for 2 base all-ins vs Zerg most of the time. MC probably should have tried it at least one game. But Sen's big battle micro was lacking... his engagements were often not carefully done and it along with other mistakes cost him. NesTea would have had better engagements and wouldn't lose to dark templars, especially once he saw the tech out. I wish MC would do more his old style 4/5/6 gate timing attacks to mix things up. He's getting too predictable and tries to force macro games sometimes resulting in loses and definitely predicting penix /VR harass putting him behind. I think he took early criticism to heart unfortunately making his arsenal weaker. It really is a testament to MC's overall macro and mechanics that he can win these games without doing any damage with his air.
yeah..but every game it's just painful to watch. I feel like he could open differently and come out ahead, rather than behind, every single early game haha.
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