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Stop being so silly over women in esports. Rude comments will be banned for! (from page 78). Be sure to keep the topic excellent, please!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 10 2011 05:36 GMT
#13901
Say, is it just me that got it wrong, or was the schedule of the semifinals moved forward a bit?
Damn, too bad that I missed the games.
Crisco
Profile Joined March 2011
1170 Posts
July 10 2011 05:36 GMT
#13902
Are the 2 matches Bo7?
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 10 2011 05:37 GMT
#13903
Too bad, Sen lost. If Sen can go to Korea to train fully as a progamer, he will be a beast. I love Sen cos hes just semi-pro from Taiwan where virtually he can't not find any decent practice partner. He only relies on himself and laddering but still archive a high level of playing.

Fnatic, send Sen to Korea, or some pro house in EU or NA. He will rape everyone!!!!
Terran
eksert
Profile Joined August 2010
France656 Posts
July 10 2011 05:37 GMT
#13904
where's the vod guys? havent uploaded yet?
ps: i got nasl account
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 10 2011 05:37 GMT
#13905
On July 10 2011 14:15 Chainfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 14:13 chatuka wrote:
Puma paid the piper, and his skill is increasing like wildfire. Chainfire I haven't seen Puma play yet. But i am pumped up to see him in the final.


I haven't seen his TvP yet...just his TvT and TvZ. From what I've seen...he's as solid as imMVP but more aggressive and more layered/better transitions from varying stratagems.

The only TvP i've seen him was Puma vs HongUn in the ICCUP Korean Weekly, but HongUn got no detection 2 games in a row and lost to 1 cloaked banshee in each, so that really doesnt say much
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
July 10 2011 05:38 GMT
#13906
On July 10 2011 13:24 happyness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:13 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:10 flowSthead wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:04 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:01 Condor Hero wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:00 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
Can't believe I actually rely on a Terran whiping MC's butt... sad day for Zerg -.-

dude if anyone can take out mc there its a korean terran.

korean terrans are just scary as shit in general.


Yeah sure but the fact that I have to trust on Koriterrans because Zergs aren't able to handle it is a disgrace...


So Losira at MLG doesn't count for anything? Or the fact that MC is actually really good and the majority of the 16 spots were Zergs?


Makes it even worst tbh. The Zergs that know lategame compositions get cheesed early, the ones that know macro style multiple harrass midgame antics get to lategame and throw it away. It's just frustrating to watch and read about how great MC plays... I am not saying he is getting free wins...all I'm saying is he shouldn't win 3 v 5 base against any Zerg that knows how to play lategame Zerg.


Your understanding of the game is shallow. 3v5 bases does not and should not equal auto win for any zerg. The last game Sen lost because MC's control was much better and his DT harass was brilliant. The game before that sen made like 12+ broodlords and no anti air.

Sen probably would have beat any other protoss in those late game situations, but he's playing against MC, the best player in the world right now


I agree with this post. Let's look at game 4 and 5 where Sen got more bases earlier but still lost.

Game 4 - Even though Sen was on 6 bases, his units were not efficient at all. MC barely lost any of his ground army until the big engagements near the end of the game. This allowed him to save up a lot of money by not having to replenish zealots/stalkers/sentries. This is the main reason why he didn't need to expand to a 4th as quickly.

Game 5 - Sen had his 5th and 6th hatcheries up on the right side, but they were fully mining for just a little bit before MC sent in his DTs to destroy them. Just because more bases go up does not mean a zerg is ahead - they need them to be online for some time for the income to really surge ahead.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 10 2011 05:38 GMT
#13907
On July 10 2011 14:37 Caphe wrote:
Too bad, Sen lost. If Sen can go to Korea to train fully as a progamer, he will be a beast. I love Sen cos hes just semi-pro from Taiwan where virtually he can't not find any decent practice partner. He only relies on himself and laddering but still archive a high level of playing.

Fnatic, send Sen to Korea, or some pro house in EU or NA. He will rape everyone!!!!


Sen already practices on the KR server, it's why he is as good as he is.

Without a progaming team that also does so however I don't see him getting much better.

Huk wouldn't be as amazing right now without teammates like MC to practice with.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
July 10 2011 05:40 GMT
#13908
16th seed and 15th seed in the final.
oh the irony...
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Crisco
Profile Joined March 2011
1170 Posts
July 10 2011 05:40 GMT
#13909
On July 10 2011 14:38 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 14:37 Caphe wrote:
Too bad, Sen lost. If Sen can go to Korea to train fully as a progamer, he will be a beast. I love Sen cos hes just semi-pro from Taiwan where virtually he can't not find any decent practice partner. He only relies on himself and laddering but still archive a high level of playing.

Fnatic, send Sen to Korea, or some pro house in EU or NA. He will rape everyone!!!!


Sen already practices on the KR server, it's why he is as good as he is.

Without a progaming team that also does so however I don't see him getting much better.

Huk wouldn't be as amazing right now without teammates like MC to practice with.


He should train 1 week with MC and another high-tiered korean terran. Then, his evolution will be complete
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 05:43:07
July 10 2011 05:41 GMT
#13910
On July 10 2011 14:38 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 14:37 Caphe wrote:
Too bad, Sen lost. If Sen can go to Korea to train fully as a progamer, he will be a beast. I love Sen cos hes just semi-pro from Taiwan where virtually he can't not find any decent practice partner. He only relies on himself and laddering but still archive a high level of playing.

Fnatic, send Sen to Korea, or some pro house in EU or NA. He will rape everyone!!!!


Sen already practices on the KR server, it's why he is as good as he is.

Without a progaming team that also does so however I don't see him getting much better.

Huk wouldn't be as amazing right now without teammates like MC to practice with.

What do you mean? Practice on ladder is not enough and Sen is already on Fnatic but he has no one to practice in real life and hes not full time pro like Huk or Idra.
Why don't you see him getting much better? Sen was one of the best foreigner Zerg in SC:BW. Sen needs to switch to full-pro and get to a practice house. Ladder is never enough!!!
Terran
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
July 10 2011 05:42 GMT
#13911
Don't worry Sen is graduating from college this year if I am not mistaken. He is going full time pretty soon.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
July 10 2011 05:44 GMT
#13912
On July 10 2011 14:38 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 14:37 Caphe wrote:
Too bad, Sen lost. If Sen can go to Korea to train fully as a progamer, he will be a beast. I love Sen cos hes just semi-pro from Taiwan where virtually he can't not find any decent practice partner. He only relies on himself and laddering but still archive a high level of playing.

Fnatic, send Sen to Korea, or some pro house in EU or NA. He will rape everyone!!!!


Sen already practices on the KR server, it's why he is as good as he is.

Without a progaming team that also does so however I don't see him getting much better.

Huk wouldn't be as amazing right now without teammates like MC to practice with.



Team liquid trained together there more before i think, now they seem to mix it up a lot more, and Huk is literaly sitting next to MC, so yes i believe if Sen would want to be a pro gamer full time he should be thinking about doing that, might be hard though to find a team willing to take him in, so many talent in Korea itself around aswell.

Also is Sen now done with his Univercity ? And some said he might need to join the army aswell ?
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 10 2011 05:45 GMT
#13913
On July 10 2011 14:42 bubblegumbo wrote:
Don't worry Sen is graduating from college this year if I am not mistaken. He is going full time pretty soon.

Yeah, I am looking forward to his anouncement after he graduates. Sen is such a boss, getting a degree at the same time tearing apart in SC2. I am struggling with my degree and a place in low master on SC2 T_T
Terran
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 10 2011 05:45 GMT
#13914
On July 10 2011 14:41 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 14:38 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 10 2011 14:37 Caphe wrote:
Too bad, Sen lost. If Sen can go to Korea to train fully as a progamer, he will be a beast. I love Sen cos hes just semi-pro from Taiwan where virtually he can't not find any decent practice partner. He only relies on himself and laddering but still archive a high level of playing.

Fnatic, send Sen to Korea, or some pro house in EU or NA. He will rape everyone!!!!


Sen already practices on the KR server, it's why he is as good as he is.

Without a progaming team that also does so however I don't see him getting much better.

Huk wouldn't be as amazing right now without teammates like MC to practice with.

What do you mean? Practice on ladder is not enough and Sen is already on Fnatic but he has no one to practice in real life and hes not full time pro like Huk or Idra.
Why don't you see him getting much better? Sen was one of the best foreigner Zerg in SC:BW. Sen needs to switch to full-pro and get to a practice house. Ladder is never enough!!!


Fnatic is not a korean team, and Sen is their best member.

I just don't feel that Idra or Sen will be able to get better without being in korea, training with equal-level players full time.

Sen is able to take a edge because he lives in Taiwan and can play KR ladder without huge lag.
dsl2000
Profile Joined July 2011
8 Posts
July 10 2011 05:50 GMT
#13915
excuse me, at what time will the final be played?
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
July 10 2011 05:53 GMT
#13916
On July 10 2011 14:33 SafeAsCheese wrote:
I wanted to know why MC played turtletoss every game.

Just a few weeks ago at Dreamhack, he 2-0'd Sen pretty easily with blink timings... He didn't even attempt it once this series.



Because Sen was going ling/infester quite quickly and fast infesters own blink timings. MC wasn't familiar or comfortable with the style Sen played it seems hence he played reactionary.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 10 2011 05:54 GMT
#13917
On July 10 2011 14:45 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 14:41 Caphe wrote:
On July 10 2011 14:38 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 10 2011 14:37 Caphe wrote:
Too bad, Sen lost. If Sen can go to Korea to train fully as a progamer, he will be a beast. I love Sen cos hes just semi-pro from Taiwan where virtually he can't not find any decent practice partner. He only relies on himself and laddering but still archive a high level of playing.

Fnatic, send Sen to Korea, or some pro house in EU or NA. He will rape everyone!!!!


Sen already practices on the KR server, it's why he is as good as he is.

Without a progaming team that also does so however I don't see him getting much better.

Huk wouldn't be as amazing right now without teammates like MC to practice with.

What do you mean? Practice on ladder is not enough and Sen is already on Fnatic but he has no one to practice in real life and hes not full time pro like Huk or Idra.
Why don't you see him getting much better? Sen was one of the best foreigner Zerg in SC:BW. Sen needs to switch to full-pro and get to a practice house. Ladder is never enough!!!


Fnatic is not a korean team, and Sen is their best member.

I just don't feel that Idra or Sen will be able to get better without being in korea, training with equal-level players full time.

Sen is able to take a edge because he lives in Taiwan and can play KR ladder without huge lag.

Where did I say Fnatic is a Korean team??? And Idra WAS in Korea for 3 years and basically I don't see Idra getting any better cos hes maxed out after stay so many years in Korea while Sen on the other hand has never been a full time pro and got so much potential to be better if he can practice in any pro-house.
As I say before, ladder is not enough, you need team-mate or top practice partners around you to really improve. Look at what Ogs-TL house in Korea did for Jinro(2 time GSL semi final) and Huk.
Terran
Thewildfish
Profile Joined September 2010
United States113 Posts
July 10 2011 05:54 GMT
#13918
I was at the live event...it was awesome! Can't wait for tomorrow! How many viewers did the stream get up to?
kethers
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States719 Posts
July 10 2011 05:55 GMT
#13919
My shameless brag, I was able to get a very special signature at NASL:

It was awesome, and I even got to take a picture with BoxeR =)))

[image loading]
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
July 10 2011 05:57 GMT
#13920
On July 10 2011 14:36 JustPassingBy wrote:
Say, is it just me that got it wrong, or was the schedule of the semifinals moved forward a bit?
Damn, too bad that I missed the games.


Yeah it's like they finally decided to cave in to the demands of the people complaining about long breaks. I actually missed the first two games of July vs PuMa because of this.
Someone call down the Thunder?
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