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Stop being so silly over women in esports. Rude comments will be banned for! (from page 78). Be sure to keep the topic excellent, please!
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
July 10 2011 04:59 GMT
#13861
On July 10 2011 13:58 babylon wrote:
I'm so glad I'm Taiwanese. (Well, Taiwanese-American, anyways.) I know who to root for amongst the foreigners, always.

He made a Canadian fan in me today! He was outstanding
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
July 10 2011 05:00 GMT
#13862
So, this is like the Karate Kid all over again? Huk needs be taught by the Asian senseis of Starcraft 2
to truly become enlightened?

I think the KOrean scene is important. 11 to 12 hours of practice a day is like 40 games a day.12000 games for 300 days. i mean someone who practices 4 hours a day will only play 4000 games for 300 days.
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
July 10 2011 05:01 GMT
#13863
Can anyone tell me all the results after the july vs moon games?
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
July 10 2011 05:01 GMT
#13864
Why is it necessary to divide the foreign competitors? Its better to just root for non-Koreans beating Koreans
blah blah blah...
Chainfire99
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada474 Posts
July 10 2011 05:02 GMT
#13865
On July 10 2011 14:00 chatuka wrote:
So, this is like the Karate Kid all over again? Huk needs be taught by the Asian senseis of Starcraft 2
to truly become enlightened?

I think the KOrean scene is important. 11 to 12 hours of practice a day is like 40 games a day.12000 games for 300 days. i mean someone who practices 4 hours a day will only play 4000 games for 300 days.


They say it takes at least 10,000 hrs to become a master at specific activities/professions.
Vincere Vel Mori
BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
July 10 2011 05:02 GMT
#13866
On July 10 2011 14:00 chatuka wrote:
So, this is like the Karate Kid all over again? Huk needs be taught by the Asian senseis of Starcraft 2
to truly become enlightened?

I think the KOrean scene is important. 11 to 12 hours of practice a day is like 40 games a day.12000 games for 300 days. i mean someone who practices 4 hours a day will only play 4000 games for 300 days.


I guess that makes MC the Mr. Miyagi of Starcraft 2.
Cryhavoc
Profile Joined April 2010
372 Posts
July 10 2011 05:02 GMT
#13867
On July 10 2011 14:01 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
Can anyone tell me all the results after the july vs moon games?

as i remember july won 2-0
both +1 roach t attack
En Taro Adun!
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
July 10 2011 05:03 GMT
#13868
On July 10 2011 14:02 Cryhavoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 14:01 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
Can anyone tell me all the results after the july vs moon games?

as i remember july won 2-0
both +1 roach t attack


yeah I know, I am asking about the games after that.
Cryhavoc
Profile Joined April 2010
372 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 05:07:52
July 10 2011 05:05 GMT
#13869
3-1 puma i guess
En Taro Adun!
BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
July 10 2011 05:05 GMT
#13870
On July 10 2011 14:02 Chainfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 14:00 chatuka wrote:
So, this is like the Karate Kid all over again? Huk needs be taught by the Asian senseis of Starcraft 2
to truly become enlightened?

I think the KOrean scene is important. 11 to 12 hours of practice a day is like 40 games a day.12000 games for 300 days. i mean someone who practices 4 hours a day will only play 4000 games for 300 days.


They say it takes at least 10,000 hrs to become a master at specific activities/professions.


Geez, I guess it must take 20,000 hrs+ to become a grand master then.
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 05:06:45
July 10 2011 05:05 GMT
#13871
I'm wondering, will the VODs or something be uploaded to the nasl site or something? I missed the semifinals but would really like to check them out later
Dantat
Profile Joined April 2011
170 Posts
July 10 2011 05:06 GMT
#13872
On July 10 2011 13:50 illsick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:45 Dantat wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:10 Ocedic wrote:

On July 10 2011 13:06 Serpico wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:04 InvalidID wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:00 eYeball wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:58 KimJongChill wrote:
Sen is clearly the best foreigner, and would probably be in the top 5 zergs in Korea as well. I really only see Nestea better than him, and maybe Losira and DRG. Wow, I'm a Sen fan now @_@""


I can see that. But Losira, DRG and Nestea are all better than sen.


Clearly the best foreigner? Maybe the best foreign Zerg, but Huk has clearly established himself as the top foreigner at the moment.

No, huk isn't the best foreigner at all. I'd take dimaga/throzain/sen/naniwa/idra before huk because they've been much more consistent.


Idra consistent? Is that a joke?

Huk won Dreamhack, HSC3 and is doing fantastic in Code S. Yeah, what a sloppy, inconsistent player.


Yeah, that is quite a consistent list of accomplishments for his ~1 year career.

OH WAIT..


name a foreigner more consistent


Why do I have to name a foreigner more consistent?

It won't give Huk's consistency any more credibility.
Cryhavoc
Profile Joined April 2010
372 Posts
July 10 2011 05:06 GMT
#13873
July < Tal'Darim > Puma
July < Backwater > Puma
July < Xel"naga > Puma
July < Terminus > Puma
En Taro Adun!
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
July 10 2011 05:07 GMT
#13874
10,000 hours is approximately 416 days. 1 year 51 days.

that is a ridiculous amount of time of dedication. of course you are right. you are talking about muscle memory via APM. And of course memorization of strategems. Just like Chess. That is the ultimate goal. I would like to see a Kasparov or Magnus Carlson of SC2
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8324 Posts
July 10 2011 05:08 GMT
#13875
On July 10 2011 13:54 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:53 Chainfire99 wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:52 Lamphead wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:42 Chainfire99 wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:40 Lamphead wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:37 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:35 Atasu wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:25 AxionSteel wrote:
10 Protoss Canada HuK Liquid $30,799.00
20 Zerg USA IdrA EG $20,801.00

At the end of the day, HuK laughs all the way to the bank


HuK: "Yo Idra whats better then money?"

Idra: "what..."

HuK: "MO MONEY" :D


wow if canada has won more money then USA then that's pretty jokes considering our populations


well Huk is American too so..


Huk was born and raised in Canada. He's Canadian...he runs the maple leaf. Americans always trying to steal all our talent...from mkotherfrigging Jim Carrey to John Candy. Stop claiming all the talented Canadians.


nono that's not my point. I think he's more Canadian too. In fact I'm Canadian. But he was born in the US so it doesn't make sense to use him in the population argument (he would go down in the US census as a member of their population)


I was wrong. He's not Canadian at all. He's American. Canada doesn't have even one gosu player. What shame...

kiwikaki....

And TT1 is pretty baller too. Took some wins for us in the WC IIRC
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Bababooey
Profile Joined May 2011
19 Posts
July 10 2011 05:08 GMT
#13876
On July 10 2011 13:58 babylon wrote:
I'm so glad I'm Taiwanese. (Well, Taiwanese-American, anyways.) I know who to root for amongst the foreigners, always.


SEN! =DDD
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 10 2011 05:08 GMT
#13877
On July 10 2011 13:56 Nate.F wrote:
You all realise that probably the only reason MC is having trouble with Sen is that, before this series even happened, no one had a 'decent' answer towards MC's stargate opening. MC is just adjusting to this 'answer' and therefore is having troubles. There's a first time for everything.

Sure you could say if it was Nestea executing this style MC woulda gotten roflstomped, but let's face it - this is probably the first time a zerg gotten into the lategame(and in a decent position at that) with MC opening stargate. Yes, if Nestea was executing this style and it was the first time MC had seen it, MC would have probably lost.



No. More likely it's:

1) Sen is a very good player with similar mechanics to the top level pros.

2) MC doesn't have a solid answer to ling/bling/infestor heavy compositions. Which would explain why he called it imba in the interview and hydra/roach/corruptor "easy".
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 10 2011 05:08 GMT
#13878
On July 10 2011 14:05 Cryhavoc wrote:
3-1 puma i guess

Ok MC.... Its a best of 7, need more than 3 wins
www.superbeerbrothers.com
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
July 10 2011 05:10 GMT
#13879
On July 10 2011 14:06 Dantat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 13:50 illsick wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:45 Dantat wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:10 Ocedic wrote:

On July 10 2011 13:06 Serpico wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:04 InvalidID wrote:
On July 10 2011 13:00 eYeball wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:58 KimJongChill wrote:
Sen is clearly the best foreigner, and would probably be in the top 5 zergs in Korea as well. I really only see Nestea better than him, and maybe Losira and DRG. Wow, I'm a Sen fan now @_@""


I can see that. But Losira, DRG and Nestea are all better than sen.


Clearly the best foreigner? Maybe the best foreign Zerg, but Huk has clearly established himself as the top foreigner at the moment.

No, huk isn't the best foreigner at all. I'd take dimaga/throzain/sen/naniwa/idra before huk because they've been much more consistent.


Idra consistent? Is that a joke?

Huk won Dreamhack, HSC3 and is doing fantastic in Code S. Yeah, what a sloppy, inconsistent player.


Yeah, that is quite a consistent list of accomplishments for his ~1 year career.

OH WAIT..


name a foreigner more consistent


Why do I have to name a foreigner more consistent?

It won't give Huk's consistency any more credibility.


I think chainfire just answered your question. more dedication. but that is hard to find, since SC2 is not as lucrative as Chess or even professional sports. Which is ridiculous that a baseball player should earn more than a chess player or SC2 player.
Chainfire99
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada474 Posts
July 10 2011 05:10 GMT
#13880
On July 10 2011 14:07 chatuka wrote:
10,000 hours is approximately 416 days. 1 year 51 days.

that is a ridiculous amount of time of dedication. of course you are right. you are talking about muscle memory via APM. And of course memorization of strategems. Just like Chess. That is the ultimate goal. I would like to see a Kasparov or Magnus Carlson of SC2


Puma's level of game understanding is pretty sick thus far. I wish I could play TvZ like he does ( such crisp transitions from a multi-layered strategy...timed out to almost perfection). Scouting and getting good reads on your opponent is everything in starcraft 2. Know your enemy and know thyself!
Vincere Vel Mori
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