On July 05 2011 05:07 densha wrote: This game reminds me of why I watch the GSL and almost nothing else. Hopefully we get some better quality matches soon.
On July 05 2011 05:05 MCDayC wrote: The funny thing is, this is a standard Whitera strategy on this map. I've seen this done on multiples games, even in tournaments.
I can't remember the last time I saw White-ra on shakuras without this build
He makes it work! It's actually so cool to watch when done well.
On July 05 2011 05:05 Heavenly wrote: Lol. Talking about how powerful protoss air is when it was 35 probes on two base protoss to one base zerg in the beginning. Okay.
Well lets keep loling. And in that case Z air is also terrible
all this qqing about mrbitter is sad, actual pro sports have 99% terrible commentators, not just bad but literally terrible, i can't say i've ever heard anyone do esports that i've thought is terrible, and even if you think he is, is it really that bad that it detracts from the game?
On July 05 2011 05:09 sixfour wrote: all this qqing about mrbitter is sad, actual pro sports have 99% terrible commentators, not just bad but literally terrible, i can't say i've ever heard anyone do esports that i've thought is terrible, and even if you think he is, is it really that bad that it detracts from the game?
Yes, it is that bad. And how is it sad, we are listening to a stream, we are allowed to complain about a commentator especially one that is casting frequently lately. Just because actual pro sports have terrible commentators means nothing and that entire little point had nothing to do with anything.
On July 05 2011 05:09 sixfour wrote: all this qqing about mrbitter is sad, actual pro sports have 99% terrible commentators, not just bad but literally terrible, i can't say i've ever heard anyone do esports that i've thought is terrible, and even if you think he is, is it really that bad that it detracts from the game?
Maybe, just maybe some critique can be helpful? If he wants to cast more he needs to do something beside talk about zerg, how zerg plays or how weak they are. It's not like people are raging and going apeshit over his casting, people are voicing their opinion in a pretty civil manner.
On July 05 2011 04:50 sleepingdog wrote: Don't know where the MrBitter hate is suddenly coming from - as a toss player I agree with his critique of WhiteRa's build and disagree with TLO.
Starcraft strategies are often times counter-intuitive and not that obvious to people who don't play the game on a high level (especially until the point someone makes them work consistently), which is why casters like MrBitter shouldn't be that outspoken in their criticism.
TLO was absolutely right thing to give WhiteRa a benefit of the doubt there, and really that build WAS potentially workable as he said, it wasn't anything batshit crazy.
Alternatively, just because a pro player does it, that doesn't mean it's good or effective. Like you said, we may just not know the point behind the build or White-Ra might have made a few mistakes or forgot something, etc. So since we don't actually know either way, we have to judge based on the game at hand and the outcome. On that basis, the build was quite ineffective.
No, but it means the reasoning behind it is probably very sound, and not something that commentators can "read" that easily from just watching the game and analyzing it on the fly.
What MrBitter was doing was criticizing the reasoning behind the build, well before the game was resolved (and not only in that game).
On July 05 2011 05:09 sixfour wrote: all this qqing about mrbitter is sad, actual pro sports have 99% terrible commentators, not just bad but literally terrible, i can't say i've ever heard anyone do esports that i've thought is terrible, and even if you think he is, is it really that bad that it detracts from the game?
IMHO it's okay to discuss strategies, but it gets a bit annoying when someone keeps questioning the opinions of others. Things like "I can't believe that XY works in any situation" when pros do it all the time with success is a bit...well...cocky. It just sounds like: "I don't understand it/can't see how it can be viable, so others can't either"...it just sounds like that, maybe he doesn't mean it, but that's what I hear.