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Deniedx
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands14 Posts
July 04 2011 20:08 GMT
#261
On July 05 2011 05:07 densha wrote:
This game reminds me of why I watch the GSL and almost nothing else. Hopefully we get some better quality matches soon.

its just a showmatch, not a tournament
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 04 2011 20:08 GMT
#262
On July 05 2011 05:06 snurre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 05:05 MCDayC wrote:
The funny thing is, this is a standard Whitera strategy on this map. I've seen this done on multiples games, even in tournaments.

I can't remember the last time I saw White-ra on shakuras without this build

He makes it work! It's actually so cool to watch when done well.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
July 04 2011 20:08 GMT
#263
Lol at Bitter trying to cut-off TLO mid-explanation. Does he remember who he's talking to?
With no power comes no responsibility?
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 04 2011 20:08 GMT
#264
TLO best zerg confirmed.

Pure Ultras FTW!
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
July 04 2011 20:09 GMT
#265
On July 05 2011 05:05 Heavenly wrote:
Lol. Talking about how powerful protoss air is when it was 35 probes on two base protoss to one base zerg in the beginning. Okay.


Well lets keep loling. And in that case Z air is also terrible
Morrisson
Profile Joined May 2011
289 Posts
July 04 2011 20:09 GMT
#266
Damn on this map WR does this every time, and it works most of the time :D This is why we love White Ra, motherships and carriers !D
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 04 2011 20:09 GMT
#267
I think TLO just wrecked Shakuras
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
July 04 2011 20:09 GMT
#268
all this qqing about mrbitter is sad, actual pro sports have 99% terrible commentators, not just bad but literally terrible, i can't say i've ever heard anyone do esports that i've thought is terrible, and even if you think he is, is it really that bad that it detracts from the game?
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 04 2011 20:11 GMT
#269
He's a fine commentator with a soothing voice, but the zerg bias is very, very, very, very obvious.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
July 04 2011 20:11 GMT
#270
Slasher there going to be a MP3 of SoTG like before?
eyeEX
Profile Joined June 2010
United States64 Posts
July 04 2011 20:12 GMT
#271
Can't wait for the Quake match. I don't know shit about Quake, but I love watching it. Kind of sad its out of IEM :[
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Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
July 04 2011 20:12 GMT
#272
On July 05 2011 05:09 sixfour wrote:
all this qqing about mrbitter is sad, actual pro sports have 99% terrible commentators, not just bad but literally terrible, i can't say i've ever heard anyone do esports that i've thought is terrible, and even if you think he is, is it really that bad that it detracts from the game?


Yes, it is that bad. And how is it sad, we are listening to a stream, we are allowed to complain about a commentator especially one that is casting frequently lately. Just because actual pro sports have terrible commentators means nothing and that entire little point had nothing to do with anything.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
July 04 2011 20:12 GMT
#273
On July 05 2011 05:11 Whiteman103 wrote:
Slasher there going to be a MP3 of SoTG like before?


There must be. Cuz i cant watch it live !
I'm getting the derection.
Dezire
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands640 Posts
July 04 2011 20:13 GMT
#274
please mrbitter, a bit less biased
BoxeR, HuK, IdrA, Minigun, MVP <3
holycrapitsTony
Profile Joined October 2010
United States330 Posts
July 04 2011 20:13 GMT
#275
People hating on MrBitter. lol.
NYE: when the match loading screen comes up "zvz" it's like finding out you have hiv
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 20:16:37
July 04 2011 20:14 GMT
#276
On July 05 2011 05:09 sixfour wrote:
all this qqing about mrbitter is sad, actual pro sports have 99% terrible commentators, not just bad but literally terrible, i can't say i've ever heard anyone do esports that i've thought is terrible, and even if you think he is, is it really that bad that it detracts from the game?


Maybe, just maybe some critique can be helpful? If he wants to cast more he needs to do something beside talk about zerg, how zerg plays or how weak they are. It's not like people are raging and going apeshit over his casting, people are voicing their opinion in a pretty civil manner.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 20:16:06
July 04 2011 20:14 GMT
#277
On July 05 2011 05:04 densha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 05:01 Talin wrote:
On July 05 2011 04:50 sleepingdog wrote:
Don't know where the MrBitter hate is suddenly coming from - as a toss player I agree with his critique of WhiteRa's build and disagree with TLO.

Starcraft strategies are often times counter-intuitive and not that obvious to people who don't play the game on a high level (especially until the point someone makes them work consistently), which is why casters like MrBitter shouldn't be that outspoken in their criticism.

TLO was absolutely right thing to give WhiteRa a benefit of the doubt there, and really that build WAS potentially workable as he said, it wasn't anything batshit crazy.


Alternatively, just because a pro player does it, that doesn't mean it's good or effective. Like you said, we may just not know the point behind the build or White-Ra might have made a few mistakes or forgot something, etc. So since we don't actually know either way, we have to judge based on the game at hand and the outcome. On that basis, the build was quite ineffective.


No, but it means the reasoning behind it is probably very sound, and not something that commentators can "read" that easily from just watching the game and analyzing it on the fly.

What MrBitter was doing was criticizing the reasoning behind the build, well before the game was resolved (and not only in that game).
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
July 04 2011 20:14 GMT
#278
"banelings are super exciting" xDDDD

+ Show Spoiler +
don't flame me /sarcasm
snurre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States118 Posts
July 04 2011 20:14 GMT
#279
i wish this had been PvT instead now
Eggcake
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 20:16:09
July 04 2011 20:14 GMT
#280
On July 05 2011 05:09 sixfour wrote:
all this qqing about mrbitter is sad, actual pro sports have 99% terrible commentators, not just bad but literally terrible, i can't say i've ever heard anyone do esports that i've thought is terrible, and even if you think he is, is it really that bad that it detracts from the game?


IMHO it's okay to discuss strategies, but it gets a bit annoying when someone keeps questioning the opinions of others. Things like "I can't believe that XY works in any situation" when pros do it all the time with success is a bit...well...cocky. It just sounds like: "I don't understand it/can't see how it can be viable, so others can't either"...it just sounds like that, maybe he doesn't mean it, but that's what I hear.

But anyhooo ...
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