On July 05 2011 04:53 StarVe wrote:
I hope White-Ra goes carriers again on Shakuras.
I hope White-Ra goes carriers again on Shakuras.
Called it. :D
Edit: Noo, he sees no need to use the beacon.
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On July 05 2011 04:53 StarVe wrote: I hope White-Ra goes carriers again on Shakuras. Called it. :D Edit: Noo, he sees no need to use the beacon. | ||
Jimmy Raynor
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On July 05 2011 04:57 K_Dilkington wrote: Who is this guy co-commentating with TLO? He annoys me, he comes of as a bitter zerg player. he's known as MrBitter lol | ||
Elite__
Canada976 Posts
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Axeltoss
United States283 Posts
On July 05 2011 04:57 K_Dilkington wrote: Who is this guy co-commentating with TLO? He annoys me, he comes of as a bitter zerg player. Well played sir. | ||
sixfour
England11060 Posts
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snurre
United States118 Posts
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On July 05 2011 04:54 karpo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2011 04:52 rotegirte wrote: On July 05 2011 04:50 sleepingdog wrote: Don't know where the MrBitter hate is suddenly coming from - as a toss player I agree with his critique of WhiteRa's build and disagree with TLO. This. People yet fail to point out Mr Bitter on making wrong points. It really can't care less about alleged "bias" as long as the caster is spot on. Stuff like "Zerg late game is still horrible, yadda yadda". There's just this "zerg have it hard" undertone that people dislike. It is you that assume a "whiney undertone"- your personal interpretation. Would you dispute the fact that it's a fundamental concept of games to have "hard times"? | ||
zYwi3c
Poland1811 Posts
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jgoonld
334 Posts
On July 05 2011 04:55 InvalidID wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2011 04:53 ianlr wrote: On July 05 2011 04:50 sleepingdog wrote: Don't know where the MrBitter hate is suddenly coming from - as a toss player I agree with his critique of WhiteRa's build and disagree with TLO. Just because you play toss doesn't mean you are qualified to argue with TLO on analysis, especially since he played random. Eh, I think Mr Bitter may have a point regarding the build, but for the sake of a fluid cast it is best not to start arguments like that. In a different setting maybe it would be good to have such an argument, but when commentating a show-match it just comes across as silly. I completely disagree with this. I love when two different point of views can argue about the merits of the build and its effectiveness, maybe I'll get a better overall view of in what times it can be good, what can counter it, and how efficient it is. | ||
Dystisis
Norway713 Posts
He keeps making asinine statements as if they were obvious, like the idea that Zerg is the only true macro race (which is a stupid thought I've seen pop up among the noobs due to misinformation people like Mr.Bitter and Idra spread around). | ||
karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On July 05 2011 04:59 rotegirte wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2011 04:54 karpo wrote: On July 05 2011 04:52 rotegirte wrote: On July 05 2011 04:50 sleepingdog wrote: Don't know where the MrBitter hate is suddenly coming from - as a toss player I agree with his critique of WhiteRa's build and disagree with TLO. This. People yet fail to point out Mr Bitter on making wrong points. It really can't care less about alleged "bias" as long as the caster is spot on. Stuff like "Zerg late game is still horrible, yadda yadda". There's just this "zerg have it hard" undertone that people dislike. It is you that assume a "whiney undertone"- your personal interpretation. Would you dispute the fact that it's a fundamental concept of games to have "hard times"? I honestly don't know how people can't hear it right now. It's just not me hearing it, at least 5 different people last page said the same thing. | ||
Backpack
United States1776 Posts
On July 05 2011 04:59 Dystisis wrote: Mr. Bitter is pretty blatantly Zerg biased. It's really annoying to listen to, especially when he tries to argue against TLO, who has vastly superior knowledge of the game in general. He's like the non-progamer IdrA | ||
Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On July 05 2011 04:50 sleepingdog wrote: Don't know where the MrBitter hate is suddenly coming from - as a toss player I agree with his critique of WhiteRa's build and disagree with TLO. Yeah, but only because it's "easy" to agree with him, especially because WhiteRa's build didn't work out. Based on what most players know, WhiteRa's build wasn't all that good. MrBitter just echoes that generic sentiment and to most people it makes sense. However, the fact WhiteRa went with that build means that he very very likely knows something about it that we (and MrBitter) just don't. TLO was wise enough to account for the fact that if a progamer goes for a build, there's likely to be a very solid reasoning behind it, whether it works out or not. Starcraft strategies are often times counter-intuitive and not that obvious to people who don't play the game on a high level (especially until the point someone makes them work consistently), which is why casters like MrBitter shouldn't be that outspoken in their criticism. TLO was absolutely right thing to give WhiteRa a benefit of the doubt there, and really that build WAS potentially workable as he said, it wasn't anything batshit crazy. | ||
Fyzar
Netherlands8009 Posts
I would probably do the same for toss if I was a caster ;P. | ||
sixfour
England11060 Posts
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FenneK
France1231 Posts
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Elasticity
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
On July 05 2011 05:01 Talin wrote: TLO was absolutely right thing to give WhiteRa a benefit of the doubt there, and really that build was potentially workable as he says. My final 2 cents: I HATE casters that ALWAYS agree on EVERYTHING (sry for caps). MrBitter and TLO agreed to disagree, both have valid points, I find the arguments of MrBitter more convincing. I think casters can and should have the right to disagree from time to time. So, you agree with TLO - fine with me, tbh. I just hate people here hating on the caster they don't agree with. FFS calm down, different opinions are not necessarily a bad thing. | ||
mav451
United States1596 Posts
On July 05 2011 05:00 Backpack wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2011 04:59 Dystisis wrote: Mr. Bitter is pretty blatantly Zerg biased. It's really annoying to listen to, especially when he tries to argue against TLO, who has vastly superior knowledge of the game in general. He's like the non-progamer IdrA That's probably the kindest euphemism yeah. In the beginning of the cast, I didn't really mind, but it is getting increasingly grating. | ||
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