When: Sunday July 17th, 2011 Check in begins at 10:00 AM. First round beings at 11:00AM
Cost: $20 entry fee which covers the cost of computer rentals, tournament fees and prizes. There is a $3 fee to spectate at the event. This money goes directly to help pay for the players to use the venue.
Tournament Details: Prize pool will be based on the amount of people that attend the event.
BYOC(Bring Your Own Computer): The computers at the new venue should be much better than previous events we've held. However, if you would like to play on your own machine you are welcome to bring your own.
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Rules and Regulations
Tournament format: The Hotkeyit.com Arizona Open will be run in a swiss format. There is no elimination in a swiss format. There will be 4 rounds of bo3. Each round you will be paired with an opponent and given a random map to start. After the first round, the loser will pick the next map(No map may be played twice in a match) and so on until the bo3 is over. After the four rounds of bo3 the top 8 players (subject to change based on attendance) will then move on to the bracketed elimination finals. The quarter finals, and semi finals will be played in a bo3 format. The finals for the tournament will be a bo5.
Tardy rule: Since we are running a swiss tournament, we cannot start a new round till all of the players have finished the current round. Any player who is more than 10 minutes late to a round will receive a forfeit loss for that round.
Technical Difficulties: Any drop occurring before the 5 minute mark will result in a rematch using the same map. Any other drop will be reviewed by the tournament admin.
Tournament Etiquette: Good tournament Etiquette will be required. Excessive profane language in an aggressive manner, any violence, or other similar behavior may result in disqualification.
Observers: No in game observers, other than tournament administrators or official tournament casters will be allowed. Any stream cheating will result in immediate disqualification.
Reporting Results: All tournament players are required to report their result. Failure to report a result may end up in a forfeit for that round.
Officiating: Tournament administrators have authority over all decision making, all participants must abide by rules/decisions or they may face disqualification.
Sign ups: Please leave the following information here if you plan to attend the event. Sc2 ID & Character Code League Race BYOC? (Write BYOC if you are bringing your own or SITE if you plan to use a machine on site)
Write SITE if you are bringing your own mouse and keyboard but going to hook it up to a computer at the venue.
1. EGDeMusliM, T 7650 2. QxGiNkA, P 7608 3. Egincontrol, P 7507 4. GGlastshadow, T 7497 5. sixjaxSkew, T 7459 6. REQPhiliBiRD, T 7290 7. EGMachine, Z 5999 8. SCDTaCo, Z 5998 9. EGLzGaMeR, Z 5997 10. Amalaxinaoum, Z 5996 11. piro, P 5995 12. Briggs, P 5994 13. TheBullFrog, Z 5993 14. TerranMeApar, T 5992 15. Bobhlead, T 5991 16. imba, T 4999 17. aScPraiise, P 4998 18. OneEyed, Z 4997 19. Agama, Z 4995 20. challe, T 4994 21. Qwann, P 4993 22. Ekert, Z 4992 23. Megabust, Z 4992 24. Thehealbus, Z 4791 25. BarrelLoLz, P 4710 26. macromaestro, Z 4263 27. MaDMaverick, Z 3999 28. MauiMallard, T 3998 29. FronkeyXL, P 3997 30. Ruggles, P 3996 31. zephyr, R 3995 32. Trumpets, Z 3994 33. Logyx, Z 3764 34. gurrpp, R 3179 35. Binky, P 3000 36. Weaklink, Z 2999 37. virum, Z 2998 38. FuDDx, P 2778 39. AlphaQUp, R 2096 40. Karhock, P 2037 41. Octave, P 1999 42. Sanskranati, Z 1778 43. VATObandito, Z 1558 44. VarAguTyOle, P 999 45. Biggz, P 160
On July 12 2011 03:14 Virum wrote: I live in Gilbert, has anyone think about setting up a carpool? Its quite a drive from the east valley.
im sure there is some one from east valley who can help you. um, normally i would suggest going to azsc2.com to find someone but there appears to be some malicious infection on the site so VISIT AT YOUR OWN RISK.
So anyone from East valley have a empty spot in their car !??! Let Virum know let's get everyone to this LAN!
On July 12 2011 03:14 Virum wrote: I live in Gilbert, has anyone think about setting up a carpool? Its quite a drive from the east valley.
im sure there is some one from east valley who can help you. um, normally i would suggest going to azsc2.com to find someone but there appears to be some malicious infection on the site so VISIT AT YOUR OWN RISK.
So anyone from East valley have a empty spot in their car !??! Let Virum know let's get everyone to this LAN!
I don't necessarily need a ride. I can drive my self its not a big deal. Just wasn't sure if people had one setup or if there is interest in setting one up. If i get the Okay to attend from my GF then I wouldn't even mind driving others who maybe in my immediate area.
We planned on announcing this at the event, but for anyone interested there's going to be a party afterward at Four Peaks Brewery in Tempe. Four Peaks Brewery is at 1340 E 8th St, Tempe, AZ 85281 and is a bar so only 21+ can get in. The VATOCLAN guys and myself go there often and thought it would be fun for us to meet up there after the event.
On July 12 2011 17:53 VATO_Gandair wrote: We planned on announcing this at the event, but for anyone interested there's going to be a party afterward at Four Peaks Brewery in Tempe. Four Peaks Brewery is at 1340 E 8th St, Tempe, AZ 85281 and is a bar so only 21+ can get in. The VATOCLAN guys and myself go there often and thought it would be fun for us to meet up there after the event.
Yummm four peaks. Thats my favorite bar/restaurant. You can almost count me in depending on how my day goes! Maybe ill need a drink if i play one of those EG or sixjax guys.
Also if anyone is interested in setting up an east valley (Gilbert) car pool for this or future events let me know! Its something I will consider hosting or partaking in.
honestly if this tournament gets any bigger than the one in may or june there is going to need to be a fifth round otherwise top 8/6 is gonna be a lot of chance and people with the same record.
also for the under masters prize pool it would be nice if we could have a mini playoff (top 4) because ime their will probably be quite a few 2-2 tied for it and it would be nice to play it out and see who was best.
thanks suitguy for putting this on. If you keep doing these i may have to sign up for hotkeyit.com to continue to support our only az lan
Phil - Azsc2 should be good to go. Pyre said he hasnt had any issues since I went through and looked through the server and the websites directory.
So hopefully on your end, the issues are resolved as well.
Also found out this week, my NCOIC is gonna push for a humanitarian pcs to Luke AFB so hopefully before the end of 2012 if not by 2012, I should be back home in Arizona <3
On July 15 2011 08:50 TerlocSG wrote: might decide to come from tucson for this one... so many big names...
Again, Tucson residents can PM me, and we can figure out a ride thing. I'm providing rides, given I don't run out of room.
Ill also be driving up, Probably will have room, Keep in mind I will leave sometime late, I smoke and do not have air conditioning. Also I will more than likely having some drinks after. so 21 + years old and up and willing to stay awhile then you can join me!!
Yo anyone in the tempe area carpooling cause im interested in going as a spectator and then definitely going too 4peaks after went their last night for a buddy birthday.
We are definitely not going to have enough room to accommodate everyone that wants to bring their own machine. We can probably only do 12 or so max. Those spaces will be first come first serve the day of the tournament.
On July 16 2011 09:08 SuitGuy wrote: We are definitely not going to have enough room to accommodate everyone that wants to bring their own machine. We can probably only do 12 or so max. Those spaces will be first come first serve the day of the tournament.
might wanna update OP with that
figures, i'll be amazed if we have enough room to fit everyone inside lol.
On July 16 2011 09:08 SuitGuy wrote: We are definitely not going to have enough room to accommodate everyone that wants to bring their own machine. We can probably only do 12 or so max. Those spaces will be first come first serve the day of the tournament.
might wanna update OP with that
figures, i'll be amazed if we have enough room to fit everyone inside lol.
done. Yea, it is gonna be an experience to say the least.
On July 16 2011 09:08 SuitGuy wrote: We are definitely not going to have enough room to accommodate everyone that wants to bring their own machine. We can probably only do 12 or so max. Those spaces will be first come first serve the day of the tournament.
Good thing I'm leaving early and will be there before 10am :D
Unfortunately EG will not be participating in this event or any other event hotkeyit is involved with unless a situation is rectified.
Recently Skew and LzGamer wanted to set up a fun bet match between Demuslim and Lastshadow. All was fine. Machine told Demuslim that Lastshadow is a former cheater (caught numerous times during wcg qualifier, practice games, ladder games, tourney games etc.. he has formally apologized then done it again 2-3 times) so he recommended the match be played live at the event we were all going to Sunday (tomorrow). Sixjax.Skew took offense to this and started to accuse Machine of "not trusting him" and "spreading rumors." This was all fine and good but then Skew went and "banned" Machine from playing at the event because he "disrespected his employee/player." This is ludicrous as Machine was simply stating that he didn't trust Lastshadow to play a legit match for money online and would prefer to delay it a single day so the match can be played.
Arguments happen and that is understandable. Banning one of the kindest and most well-intentioned players/people in our community is absolutely unacceptable. If EG were to acknowledge this and still play in the event we would be disrespecting Machine and we simply won't do that.
We were excited to compete in our new home state and meet the locals as we are now a part of this community but unfortunately we cannot respect this decision and support an event that is ran so childishly.
If this rubs you the wrong way I urge everyone to please PM suitguy and tell them this displeases you. If you don't mind then that too is ok!
Sorry to all that are disappointed, trust me, we are more disappointed!
This event is about the community(to me anyway), banning a player because of a disagreement is silly. I hope this works out, would love to have a good time by all. Drama sucks
Unfortunately EG will not be participating in this event or any other event hotkeyit is involved with unless a situation is rectified.
Recently Skew and LzGamer wanted to set up a fun bet match between Demuslim and Lastshadow. All was fine. Machine told Demuslim that Lastshadow is a former cheater
Wrong. Machine got on Lz's account and said ls cheats and the fact that I'm sitting behind him doesn't change anything. Then I started to ask him why he's doing all this and he started acting strange (why I asked if alcohol was involved in the skype history I'll post) and giving me attitude and saying 'we'll never play ls online he hasn't proved himself even though he got 4th at mlg blah blah blah'. Yes, I know the guy cheated 4 years ago. He was 14. I cheated when I was 14. He's now 18 and he understands things differently and he's one of the sickest players outside of Korea in SC2 that I know, so I'm putting my neck on the line for him. Artosis, me, and others are trying to get him to Korea and help legitimize him. Machine spreading lies to other people who I respect saying he still cheats won't pass, and then he lied to everyone else saying that he didn't. Then he lied and back peddled and finally just said "I don't care anymore". OK, that's fine, but you're not welcome at the LAN if you're going to act that way towards me and my staff. I stand by what the fuck I do and the effort I put into people.
Skype history with iNcontrol starts off joking about the bet match with lz and to get his attention, then fast forward to after Machine going nuts and I was asking him to help solve what the hell was going on, and then goes to the next day after I got Machine and ls into a chat and tried to resolve everything but was just lied to more about what he said like my fucking memory doesn't last more than 10 minutes:
[7/15/2011 8:59:15 PM] Skew: tell jake to msg me on bnet [7/15/2011 8:59:15 PM] Skew: pls [7/15/2011 8:59:23 PM] Skew: tell him stop being a big betting fish too [7/15/2011 8:59:24 PM] Skew: HEH [7/15/2011 10:09:39 PM] Skew: message me pls when you're here, i need to ask you something [7/15/2011 10:23:57 PM] Geoff Robinson: yoyo [7/15/2011 10:24:20 PM] Skew: how's the mansion [7/15/2011 10:24:20 PM] Skew: ^_^ [7/15/2011 10:24:51 PM] Geoff Robinson: at scott's atm [7/15/2011 10:24:52 PM] Geoff Robinson: mansion soon [7/15/2011 10:25:13 PM] Skew: think you can help me clear something up? got drama i think alcohols involved [7/15/2011 10:25:35 PM] Geoff Robinson: nobody here has been drinking o-O [7/15/2011 10:25:37 PM] Geoff Robinson: but yeah whatsup? [7/15/2011 10:26:38 PM] Skew: jake and i had a bo7 setup for ls vs demuslim and machine got all worked up and got on lz's account and basically went off on me about how ls is a cheater and he has to prove himself at the lan etc. me and artosis have been helping ls out a lot, ive let him stay at my house, he's working for hotkeyit, etc. so he's disrespecting me big time and he wont talk straight with me when i asked him [7/15/2011 10:26:53 PM] Skew: obviously im like [7/15/2011 10:26:55 PM] Skew: pissed [7/15/2011 10:27:07 PM] Skew: but i dont wanan do anythign rash cuzz i dunno wtf he's doing [7/15/2011 10:27:33 PM] Geoff Robinson: he was eliminated from a wcg qualifer due to ls cheating [7/15/2011 10:27:38 PM] Geoff Robinson: he has a right to dislike the dude [7/15/2011 10:27:40 PM] Geoff Robinson: and distrust him [7/15/2011 10:28:00 PM] Skew: he doesn't have to like him but if he won't put any trust in me and he's gonna disrespect players i help and hire [7/15/2011 10:28:05 PM] Skew: he's not going to be welcome to anything hotkeyit runs [7/15/2011 10:28:09 PM] Skew: i don't deserve that [7/15/2011 10:28:16 PM] Skew: i'd go to battle for machine any day of the week [7/15/2011 10:28:20 PM] Skew: and he's just going to shit on me [7/15/2011 10:28:32 PM] Geoff Robinson: what would you like me to do? [7/15/2011 10:28:51 PM] Skew: id like u to help me clear this up between him and i and ls because he's not man enough to say sorry [7/15/2011 10:28:56 PM] Skew: but i dont wanna ruin the lan for everyone [7/15/2011 10:29:07 PM] Geoff Robinson: you know damn well it won't even get brought up [7/15/2011 10:29:11 PM] Geoff Robinson: unless you/ls make a big deal [7/15/2011 10:29:13 PM] Geoff Robinson: o_O [7/15/2011 10:29:18 PM] Geoff Robinson: these kind of things have happened many a time [7/15/2011 10:29:21 PM] Geoff Robinson: nerds don't say shit [7/15/2011 10:29:31 PM] Skew: it doesn't have to do with that, he has ben and everyone else suspicious now and he's direspecting me [7/15/2011 10:29:42 PM] Geoff Robinson: you want me to ask him to apologize? [7/15/2011 10:30:05 PM] Skew: i want you to ask him to sort this out with me and ls so we can have a good lan. it's been 4 years since ls cheated, he was 14, he's 18. i'm putting a lot of work into helping him [7/15/2011 10:30:29 PM] Geoff Robinson: I can ask machine but I can't force him [7/15/2011 10:30:32 PM] Skew: i really don't need ppl that i feel like i have all this loyalty to backstabbing me and stepping on shit i do [7/15/2011 10:30:46 PM] Skew: yea i know but ure the only one that can deal with this [7/15/2011 10:30:47 PM] Skew: im not there [7/15/2011 10:30:57 PM] Geoff Robinson: machine is streaming atm but I will ask him to contact you after [7/15/2011 10:31:00 PM] Geoff Robinson: so you guys can work it out [7/15/2011 10:31:01 PM] Skew: ok thx man [7/15/2011 10:31:02 PM] Geoff Robinson: I will do my best [7/15/2011 10:31:04 PM] Geoff Robinson: np [7/15/2011 10:31:06 PM] Skew: haha [7/15/2011 10:31:10 PM] Skew: sc drama, need some more of it i guess fml [7/15/2011 10:31:50 PM] Geoff Robinson: :D [9:27:22 AM] Skew: well i tried to clear shit up but bryce just wants to say he doesnt care and lie about what he said [9:27:33 AM] Skew: he's not welcome to play @ the lan, he can come, but im not putting up with that [9:27:56 AM] Skew: and he said u were laughing about what i said instead of explaining it so i dunno wtf is with him [9:28:00 AM] Skew: anyway thx for trying lol [9:30:12 AM] Geoff Robinson: banning machine is very dumb [9:30:15 AM] Geoff Robinson: we will all not play/come now [9:30:18 AM] Geoff Robinson: and I will be making a post [9:30:25 AM] Geoff Robinson: talking about you banning him because he doesn't trust lastshadow [9:30:31 AM] Geoff Robinson: you can feelf ree to explain [9:30:32 AM] Geoff Robinson: your side [9:30:49 AM] Geoff Robinson: but essentially EG will not participate in anything you are involved in [9:30:53 AM] Geoff Robinson: and we will make it known why [9:31:30 AM] Skew: do what you want man, he spreads rumors and causes drama [9:31:33 AM] Skew: continue it for him i guess [9:31:46 AM] Geoff Robinson: he didn't spread anything [9:31:48 AM] Geoff Robinson: don't be a fucking idiot [9:32:18 AM] Skew: me/ben/lz all were fine and then he butt in and started giving me attitude and saying ls cheats online and nothing he's done is worth shit [9:32:22 AM] Skew: and that me being there doesnt prove anything [9:32:31 AM] Skew: now he's acting like he doesnt care [9:32:35 AM] Skew: he wont even explain how he feels, doesnt give a shit about us [9:32:44 AM] Skew: so dunno what u want me to do, but sure make it an EG thing [9:32:44 AM] Geoff Robinson: I wouldn't either [9:32:48 AM] Geoff Robinson: if I was dealing with a fuck tard [9:32:49 AM] Geoff Robinson: who bans people [9:32:53 AM] Geoff Robinson: cause he doesn't like my friends [9:32:54 AM] Geoff Robinson: from a fucking lan [9:32:58 AM] Geoff Robinson: you are fucking dumb as shit [9:33:02 AM] Geoff Robinson: and I will LET you know how I feel [9:33:03 AM] Skew: uhhh he's spreading rumors about someone who works for hotkeyit [9:33:03 AM] Geoff Robinson: when I see you [9:33:08 AM] Geoff Robinson: THERE IS NO RUMOR [9:33:09 AM] Geoff Robinson: TO SPREAD [9:33:12 AM] Geoff Robinson: HE FUCKING CHEATED [9:33:13 AM] Geoff Robinson: A BUNCH [9:33:14 AM] Skew: he told ben ls is a cheater and he's gonan cheat vs him [9:33:18 AM] Geoff Robinson: HE IS LOL [9:33:33 AM] Skew: right he is, thats my pt [9:33:35 AM] Skew: someone i hire is a cheater [9:33:55 AM] Skew: man i dunno why i felt any loyalty to u guys from media days, and u dotn even give a shit how it affects my fucking company or me trying to help him [9:33:58 AM] Skew: do what u want [9:34:06 AM] Geoff Robinson: I will [9:34:07 AM] Geoff Robinson: thanks! [9:34:13 AM] Geoff Robinson: banning machine and you want to talk [9:34:17 AM] Geoff Robinson: about fucking "your company" [9:34:20 AM] Geoff Robinson: you are a fucking idiot [9:34:39 AM] Skew: why should he be welcome to the lan hotkeyit runs if he spreads shit to eg members that a hotkeyit member cheats [9:34:49 AM] Geoff Robinson: hey bro [9:34:53 AM] Geoff Robinson: Lastshadow fucking cheated [9:34:56 AM] Geoff Robinson: did you know that? [9:35:01 AM] Skew: demuslim is one of the sickst eu terrans and now he doesnt trust him or probably me because i recruited him [9:35:06 AM] Geoff Robinson: you want nobody to remember machine losing his wcg qualifier cause he got cheated? [9:35:12 AM] Skew: yes 4 years ago, a lot of people are helping him work it throughw ith tl [9:35:13 AM] Skew: and legitimize [9:35:20 AM] Skew: including me, artosis, entire gg.net, ret at one point [9:35:21 AM] Geoff Robinson: WHAT HAS HE DONE? [9:35:31 AM] Skew: got 4th at mlg, go to his tl listing [9:35:36 AM] Geoff Robinson: ROFL [9:35:36 AM] Skew: he's done a lot [9:35:41 AM] Geoff Robinson: "a lot" [9:35:43 AM] Geoff Robinson: fucking LOL [9:35:46 AM] Skew: i dont get it [9:36:06 AM] Skew: why dont u even read what i say? im letting him live at my home, work for my company, im putting everything on the line to help him legitimize [9:36:14 AM] Skew: and u guys want to cause drama for him and it makes me look bad [9:36:20 AM] Skew: i was so upset about bryce saying all that last night i almost vomitted [9:36:25 AM] Skew: and now he wants to call it a wash [9:58:40 AM] Geoff Robinson: uh [9:58:48 AM] Geoff Robinson: it was machine telling ben he cheated [9:58:48 AM] Geoff Robinson: NOW [9:58:51 AM] Geoff Robinson: it will be a public thread [9:58:54 AM] Geoff Robinson: where EG takes astand [9:58:56 AM] Geoff Robinson: against hotkeyit [9:59:00 AM] Geoff Robinson: and it's horrific decisions [9:59:04 AM] Geoff Robinson: so you are actually [9:59:06 AM] Geoff Robinson: completely dumb [9:59:13 AM] Geoff Robinson: if you wanted it low key [9:59:17 AM] Geoff Robinson: you talk face to face when we get there [9:59:18 AM] Geoff Robinson: privately [9:59:24 AM] Geoff Robinson: instead you went and made a rash decision [9:59:28 AM] Geoff Robinson: that now HAS to go public [9:59:32 AM] Geoff Robinson: so your company is about to get shat on [9:59:39 AM] Geoff Robinson: when it was just machine and lastshadow [9:59:40 AM] Geoff Robinson: involved [9:59:43 AM] Skew: i didnt make a rash decision, i had him in a convo with me and ls and he just wants to lie about what he said and disrespect me, so i calmy said 'u can come but u cant play' [9:59:49 AM] Skew: i know u wanna get all barbarian and shit and defend him [9:59:50 AM] Skew: i dont care [10:00:12 AM] Geoff Robinson: I know you care bro :D [10:00:14 AM] Geoff Robinson: but thanks! [10:00:22 AM] Geoff Robinson: I appreciate permission to defend my friend
I've never admined much but I was a team leader and personally I don't feel like Machine deserves to play if he wants to disrespect staff by lying and then lying about lying the next day to different people. iNcontrol wants to make a huge deal out of it and go to war so have fun.
On July 17 2011 03:26 iNcontroL wrote: "go to war"
??? What choice do I have? show up and ask machine to wait in the car so we can play?
OK sorry Geoff, I'll let him play even though he lies and disrespects me and HotKeyIt staff just because you and EG threaten to bully my company and staff. You guys are disgusting.
On July 17 2011 02:52 iNcontroL wrote: If this rubs you the wrong way I urge everyone to please PM suitguy and tell them this displeases you. If you don't mind then that too is ok!
threaten to bully? We say we won't play in an event machine gets banned from.. how the fuck is that bullying?
And calling machine a liar is dumb. He is truthful to a fault if anything. You can say he misheard / communicated if you like but do you really think machine is sitting around lying over lastshadow?
And get off the "disrespecting my staff" shit. You hired Lastshadow to coach/make videos but he has a horrific history of being a terrible community member with LIES (literal lies btw) and cheating... yeah it was awhile ago (not 4 years btw, do I call you aliar now?) and if people distrust him for that it's his burden to bear obviously.
Is this what one does when they run events and companies? Ban people for personal non-event related issues and disagreements? Sweet, I will remember that come Devastation in October. Sorry to the fans of Bryce and the rest of EG, but as Geoff stated, we will not be attending this event tomorrow. Best of luck to those in attendance!
Wow, well... all I can say is this is kinda dumb lol.
But, I think people are overreacting a bit. I personally kinda have to side with Machine/EG as I don't really see much they did wrong, even I know Ls is a cheater/was a cheater and/or is not to be trusted unless its @ LAN, which he never is from what I hear. Also I don't see whats wrong with playing the game for money @ LAN instead of online, it actually makes more sense to do so.
On July 17 2011 03:42 SirScoots wrote: Is this what one does when they run events and companies? Ban people for personal non-event related issues and disagreements? Sweet, I will remember that come Devastation in October. Sorry to the fans of Bryce and the rest of EG, but as Geoff stated, we will not be attending this event tomorrow. Best of luck to those in attendance!
Spreading lies about someone to other people isn't a personal non-event it's a serious issue and I take it pretty seriously. I tried to resolve it many times but it only lead the Machine lying more, so he's disallowed from playing Sunday.
You threatening to keep HKI staff out of Devastation and everything else because I moderate our events shows real class though thanks for that.
Wow. Really... and you guys call yourself professionals...
This stupid argument is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of and the repercussions from it are even larger. Regardless of if Ls is/was a cheater, Machine had legitimate concerns that he might cheat in a match. So instead of proving that he can play a legit game in the LAN tomorrow and defending his "reputation", you went and took everything personal like you're 4 years old, and then you decided to ban Machine from coming. Wrong move.
The funny thing is, if Ls came to the tournament and won everything, or even just done well, then I'm sure the EG guys would have defended his so called "reputation" because you would have some actual proof instead of "your word against mine".
The 3 of us from Prescott will not be attending as well if this is what Hotkeyit.com and Sixjax stand for. I would like to hear what Suitguy has to say on this matter though, as he is the one that pours all of his hard work into organizing these events, and I think he should have the final say as to whether or not anyone is "banned" from attending these events.
Also, I'm not sure what Hotkeyit even does to actually sponsor the event other than throw their name on it because Suitguy is an Admin of the site. So then to have a player of the tournament, not Suitguy, ban Machine is one of the dumbest things I've heard.
On July 17 2011 04:02 Qwann wrote: Wow. Really... and you guys call yourself professionals...
This stupid argument is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of and the repercussions from it are even larger. Regardless of if Ls is/was a cheater, Machine had legitimate concerns that he might cheat in a match. So instead of proving that he can play a legit game in the LAN tomorrow and defending his "reputation", you went and took everything personal like you're 4 years old, and then you decided to ban Machine from coming. Wrong move.
The funny thing is, if Ls came to the tournament and won everything, or even just done well, then I'm sure the EG guys would have defended his so called "reputation" because you would have some actual proof instead of "your word against mine".
The 3 of us from Prescott will not be attending as well if this is what Hotkeyit.com and Sixjax stand for. I would like to hear what Suitguy has to say on this matter though, as he is the one that pours all of his hard work into organizing these events, and I think he should have the final say as to whether or not anyone is "banned" from attending these events.
Also, I'm not sure what Hotkeyit even does to actually sponsor the event other than throw their name on it because Suitguy is an Admin of the site. So then to have a player of the tournament, not Suitguy, ban Machine is one of the dumbest things I've heard.
Agreed. This really should have been left between you guys. Suitguy organizes the event, and for doing such they promote Hotkeyit.com. Theres no $ put into it by HKI, just a bit of adminstrative duties.
fuddx please stop acting like the frantic girl between two guys arguing... a member of EG was wronged so we are discussing it publicly so everyone can understand why an entire squad of people who had said they'd be somewhere are now not going to be there.
Saying "Lets all be friends!" over and over again isn't actually helping.. anyone...
Should this have been handled privately? Yes. Until Machine was banned. Now EG cannot go and rather than have a bunch of people showing up / spending money to go we NEEDED to say our story so that those people don't turn their angst wrongfully against us.
On July 17 2011 04:02 Qwann wrote: Wow. Really... and you guys call yourself professionals...
This stupid argument is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of and the repercussions from it are even larger. Regardless of if Ls is/was a cheater, Machine had legitimate concerns that he might cheat in a match. So instead of proving that he can play a legit game in the LAN tomorrow and defending his "reputation", you went and took everything personal like you're 4 years old, and then you decided to ban Machine from coming. Wrong move.
The funny thing is, if Ls came to the tournament and won everything, or even just done well, then I'm sure the EG guys would have defended his so called "reputation" because you would have some actual proof instead of "your word against mine".
The 3 of us from Prescott will not be attending as well if this is what Hotkeyit.com and Sixjax stand for. I would like to hear what Suitguy has to say on this matter though, as he is the one that pours all of his hard work into organizing these events, and I think he should have the final say as to whether or not anyone is "banned" from attending these events.
Also, I'm not sure what Hotkeyit even does to actually sponsor the event other than throw their name on it because Suitguy is an Admin of the site. So then to have a player of the tournament, not Suitguy, ban Machine is one of the dumbest things I've heard.
If someone is going to hold a grudge and spread lies about him cheating even though he already got 4th at MLG Raleigh 2010 and won other events then they aren't going to randomly decide he's amazingly legit because he wins a local tournament. Machine also added lastshadow to practice with him awhile back so the concerns aren't even legit, it's just him trying to spread disinformation and trying to destroy the guy legitimizing himself and making HotKeyIt look bad in the process for ever dealing with him. Why is it unfair that he's not allowed to play in a tournament run by HotKeyIt after all of this? We even tried to clear it up with him but he wants to just back peddle and lie some more.
I'm sorry that EG is taking all of this personal but it only has to do with machine. SuitGuy also had nothing to do with this decision. And I'm an owner of HotKeyIt, not just a player.
First of all this seems very childish, all I did was recommend that the match was played offline. Even if he didn't cheat (LS has given me no reason to believe that he has in SC2) the match seems like it would be much more fun if played at an offline event with spectators knowing two players are battling it out for some cash. Second of all Demuslim is a good friend of mine and I honestly was just doing my best to look out for a friend. I even consider Nick a friend, he seems like a very respectable guy in person but as the old saying goes " fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me". From my past experiences, Lastshadow has previously cheated against me in a WCG qualifier where he had a ref who was obsing our match tell him everything that I was doing in order to get an advantage and beat me. I never said that Lastshadow cheats now, yet from previously dealing with him I know that it would be a possibility. As incontrol has said he has done this numerous times and apologized then continued to do so (all during broodwar). He is obviously a very strong player taking 4th place at MLG last year, from my past experiences with Nick im sure you can all understand my hesitation in completely forgiving / forgetting the past. Even if the question of cheating was irrelevant, why not play it offline anyways, it seems it would be more fun anyways. As far as the lying comment goes, I did not lie to you. Prove where I lied to you and what I said. Yes I do believe Lastshadow has the possibility of cheating as sad as that seems but it is only once again due to previous FACTS. I understand Alex how I have offended you by saying that he has the possibility of cheating even in front of yourself but once again Kawaiirice use to be one of my most trusted online friends yet he reffed our game and helped Lastshadow get a victory against me in an extremely important match, then he went on to help LastShadow beat LzGameR in the same method. You are a good friend, it seems very odd to have something like this get between us but so be it. I will not lie about my thoughts, yes after four years it seems like I really should have forgiven him but I cant help but be very bitter about my past experience. I told no one about this instance, I don't give a damn about drama. The fact that you had to go public with this and bring it to light shows that you thrive on this. Sorry to everyone who wanted to see EG tomorrow, if I could I would probably go back and forget that LastShadow ever cheated against anyone in order to calm this drama and allow us to participate in this event. The fact is I can't, I was purely giving a good friend my personal advice with a player that I had previously encountered and he had no idea about. I stand by everything I've said.
In my opinion and personal reference, "Once a hacker always a hacker".
They've done it once before, so whats stopping them from doing it again?
Sure some of them learn and evolve to not do it but the fact of the matter is, they still did it and they know what sources to get newly updated forms of the hacks.
Either way the situation has just blown out of proportion and overall it can jeopardize Arizona from having any future recurring events that can help promote e-sports and Starcraft throughout Arizona and United States.
I can see both sides perspectives of the situation. Yes the match could have taken place at the LAN and at the same time the match probably would not have been done online due to past reputations/experiences. But overall, I believe it is unfair to "ban" someone from attending a localized event.
On July 17 2011 04:16 Skew wrote: If someone is going to hold a grudge and spread lies about him cheating even though he already got 4th at MLG Raleigh 2010 and won other events then they aren't going to randomly decide he's amazingly legit because he wins a local tournament. Machine also added lastshadow to practice with him awhile back so the concerns aren't even legit, it's just him trying to spread disinformation and trying to destroy the guy legitimizing himself and making HotKeyIt look bad in the process for ever dealing with him. Why is it unfair that he's not allowed to play in a tournament run by HotKeyIt after all of this? We even tried to clear it up with him but he wants to just back peddle and lie some more.
I'm sorry that EG is taking all of this personal but it only has to do with machine. SuitGuy also had nothing to do with this decision. And I'm an owner of HotKeyIt, not just a player.
1. Hotkeyit does nothing to actually sponsor the event. So no one cares what happens at the LAN and it only shows how you have no idea how to run an event/website if you're banning people over private concerns. 2. No one would have actually cared what Machine said about LS, as this was a private conversation that you decided to bring into the public. 3. You are acting like you're 4 and getting butthurt and banning people where instead to show the professional conduct that Hotkeyit and Sixjax supposedly endorse, you should have stated that Ls would demonstrate his ability tomorrow and never made threats against machine/ EG. 4. You didn't try to clear up anything with him, you decided that because Machine didn't want to take your word that this guy is legit you were going to ban him. Those are not the same thing. 5. This argument/banning of Machine actually makes your website look like total shit. I'm sure that once word gets out that the EG guys aren't going your attendance is going to drop like a rock, and I for one will be glad to tell anyone that asks me, or anyone that I talk to at MLG Anaheim that Hotkeyit has done shit for the local AZ community and resorts to banning and bullshitting the rest unless you can rectify this situation.
On July 17 2011 04:23 Machine[USA] wrote: First of all this seems very childish, all I did was recommend that the match was played offline. Even if he didn't cheat (LS has given me no reason to believe that he has in SC2) the match seems like it would be much more fun if played at an offline event with spectators knowing two players are battling it out for some cash. Second of all Demuslim is a good friend of mine and I honestly was just doing my best to look out for a friend. I even consider Nick a friend, he seems like a very respectable guy in person but as the old saying goes " fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me". From my past experiences, Lastshadow has previously cheated against me in a WCG qualifier where he had a ref who was obsing our match tell him everything that I was doing in order to get an advantage and beat me. I never said that Lastshadow cheats now, yet from previously dealing with him I know that it would be a possibility. As incontrol has said he has done this numerous times and apologized then continued to do so (all during broodwar). He is obviously a very strong player taking 4th place at MLG last year, from my past experiences with Nick im sure you can all understand my hesitation in completely forgiving / forgetting the past. Even if the question of cheating was irrelevant, why not play it offline anyways, it seems it would be more fun anyways. As far as the lying comment goes, I did not lie to you. Prove where I lied to you and what I said. Yes I do believe Lastshadow has the possibility of cheating as sad as that seems but it is only once again due to previous FACTS. I understand Alex how I have offended you by saying that he has the possibility of cheating even in front of yourself but once again Kawaiirice use to be one of my most trusted online friends yet he reffed our game and helped Lastshadow get a victory against me in an extremely important match, then he went on to help LastShadow beat LzGameR in the same method. You are a good friend, it seems very odd to have something like this get between us but so be it. I will not lie about my thoughts, yes after four years it seems like I really should have forgiven him but I cant help but be very bitter about my past experience. I told no one about this instance, I don't give a damn about drama. The fact that you had to go public with this and bring it to light shows that you thrive on this. Sorry to everyone who wanted to see EG tomorrow, if I could I would probably go back and forget that LastShadow ever cheated against anyone in order to calm this drama and allow us to participate in this event. The fact is I can't, I was purely giving a good friend my personal advice with a player that I had previously encountered and he had no idea about. I stand by everything I've said.
First of all this seems very childish, all I did was recommend that the match was played offline. Even if he didn't cheat (LS has given me no reason to believe that he has in SC2) the match seems like it would be much more fun if played at an offline event with spectators knowing two players are battling it out for some cash.
Second of all Demuslim is a good friend of mine and I honestly was just doing my best to look out for a friend. I even consider Nick a friend, he seems like a very respectable guy in person but as the old saying goes " fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me". From my past experiences, Lastshadow has previously cheated against me in a WCG qualifier where he had a ref who was obsing our match tell him everything that I was doing in order to get an advantage and beat me.
I never said that Lastshadow cheats now, yet from previously dealing with him I know that it would be a possibility. As incontrol has said he has done this numerous times and apologized then continued to do so (all during broodwar). He is obviously a very strong player taking 4th place at MLG last year, from my past experiences with Nick im sure you can all understand my hesitation in completely forgiving / forgetting the past. Even if the question of cheating was irrelevant, why not play it offline anyways, it seems it would be more fun anyways.
As far as the lying comment goes, I did not lie to you. Prove where I lied to you and what I said. Yes I do believe Lastshadow has the possibility of cheating as sad as that seems but it is only once again due to previous FACTS.
I understand Alex how I have offended you by saying that he has the possibility of cheating even in front of yourself but once again Kawaiirice use to be one of my most trusted online friends yet he reffed our game and helped Lastshadow get a victory against me in an extremely important match, then he went on to help LastShadow beat LzGameR in the same method. You are a good friend, it seems very odd to have something like this get between us but so be it.
I will not lie about my thoughts, yes after four years it seems like I really should have forgiven him but I cant help but be very bitter about my past experience. I told no one about this instance, I don't give a damn about drama. The fact that you had to go public with this and bring it to light shows that you thrive on this.
Sorry to everyone who wanted to see EG tomorrow, if I could I would probably go back and forget that LastShadow ever cheated against anyone in order to calm this drama and allow us to participate in this event. The fact is I can't, I was purely giving a good friend my personal advice with a player that I had previously encountered and he had no idea about. I stand by everything I've said.
(edit: It's been pointed out to me that my adding paragraphs to Machine's post could be taken as a sleight against him. It is not intended that way. I added the paragraphs so that more people would read it, because I think he said some important things.)
On July 17 2011 04:06 iNcontroL wrote: fuddx please stop acting like the frantic girl between two guys arguing... a member of EG was wronged so we are discussing it publicly so everyone can understand why an entire squad of people who had said they'd be somewhere are now not going to be there.
Saying "Lets all be friends!" over and over again isn't actually helping.. anyone...
On July 17 2011 04:23 Machine[USA] wrote:The fact that you had to go public with this and bring it to light shows that you thrive on this.
What? iNcontrol made this public. When have I ever started a thread on TL to cause drama for no reason? Please someone show one. I'm pretty sure I never say anything without merit.
You did in fact say you think he's still a cheater and all of this nonsense with DeMusliM, EG, and everyone else there. Your word stands for a lot and it toally undermines everything me and ls are trying to do. All I wanted was for you to talk to me instead of blowing me off so we could resolve everything. I contacted Geoff but you said he just laughed about it and blew it off, then I contacted you and got ls in the convo and you said "I don't care whatever". Finally you come forward and say what you think. That's all I ever asked for was an explanation but I guess ignoring me and joking about what I'm trying to do is hilarious.
Also skew in case you aren't keeping track we have a 100% you are wrong opinion being fielded thus far in this thread.. even spoke with Sixjax about this.
Need to rethink your shitty management of events.. going to end up killing em.
On July 17 2011 04:23 Machine[USA] wrote: From my past experiences, Lastshadow has previously cheated against me in a WCG qualifier where he had a ref who was obsing our match tell him everything that I was doing in order to get an advantage and beat me. I never said that Lastshadow cheats now, yet from previously dealing with him I know that it would be a possibility. As incontrol has said he has done this numerous times and apologized then continued to do so (all during broodwar). He is obviously a very strong player taking 4th place at MLG last year, from my past experiences with Nick im sure you can all understand my hesitation in completely forgiving / forgetting the past. Even if the question of cheating was irrelevant, why not play it offline anyways, it seems it would be more fun anyways.
Once again you're just bullshitting everything. Just because he thinks there is the possibility of cheating and doesn't 100% trust him does not mean he's calling him a cheater now. He also stated that LS is a very strong player. Right there ^^^^^^!!! and you just ignore it.
On July 17 2011 04:23 Machine[USA] wrote:The fact that you had to go public with this and bring it to light shows that you thrive on this.
What? iNcontrol made this public. When have I ever started a thread on TL to cause drama for no reason? Please someone show one. I'm pretty sure I never say anything without merit.
You did in fact say you think he's still a cheater and all of this nonsense with DeMusliM, EG, and everyone else there. Your word stands for a lot and it toally undermines everything me and ls are trying to do. All I wanted was for you to talk to me instead of blowing me off so we could resolve everything. I contacted Geoff but you said he just laughed about it and blew it off, then I contacted you and got ls in the convo and you said "I don't care whatever". Finally you come forward and say what you think. That's all I ever asked for was an explanation but I guess ignoring me and joking about what I'm trying to do is hilarious.
You made it public when you tweeted about it first
I never said he still cheats, I did say he has the possibility of still cheating but thats just my opinion.
I get that it must be hard for him to repair his name but in my opinion with how many times he has apologized and the cheated again I think it should be rather hard.
I did not blow you off, without a better way to describe it you were not listening to reason and would not answer my questions so I found it a waste of time to argue with you, and yes in fact I really don't give a damn about any of this. Your digging youself in a hole and as a friend you need to just stop.
I told you all of this, none of this was a joke to me. I understood that you were upset, I was purely just trying to help a friend. It only got comical once you could not / refused to answer my basic questions.
I was really looking forward to this event with a lot of great players being involved. Sad that it has to get blown up because of petty bullshit like this.
You guys are professionals and I think you should come to a mutual agreement to be bigger people, drop the arguement and make this an awesome lan. Regardless of who is right or who is wrong all this does is shine a negative light on both parties involved.
Hey, any chance you guys are still gonna be in the AZ area tomorrow? I know that a lot of the disapointed fans would deffintally be cheered up if there was some way to meet you guys. I'm sure many of your fans were looking forward to getting a chance to play against you pros, but im sure they would love just to meet you guys as well.
Hotkeyit LANs have been put together by SuitGuy and I didn't have the right to make this decision by myself. Sorry for wasting everyone's time. I'm done. I'll be there tomorrow. GL to everyone who comes.
On July 17 2011 04:53 Castrophy wrote: I was really looking forward to this event with a lot of great players being involved. Sad that it has to get blown up because of petty bullshit like this.
You guys are professionals and I think you should come to a mutual agreement to be bigger people, drop the arguement and make this an awesome lan. Regardless of who is right or who is wrong all this does is shine a negative light on both parties involved.
Excuse me? What resolution do you want EG to offer?
We show up and play without Machine? We let Skew call Machine a liar and just shrug it off?
I have been reviewing the information from both Skew and Machine over the past 3+ hours. Sorry for taking so long to make a statement, just wanted to get as much information as I could to make as fair a decision as possible for all parties involved.
It is my opinion that the matter between Skew and Machine/EG is that of a personal nature. In no official capacity is Machine or any other member of EG barred from playing in this event. It saddens me that friends that go so far back can so quickly be divided by something so silly and childish. I truly hope that they come to terms and continue being friends. I invite all our friends from EG to play in tomorrow's event despite last night/today's transgressions.
I hope that we all, as a community, can put this dark moment behind us and come together for what these tournaments truly are, a spectacle of competition in the game we love among some of the very best the game has to offer.
On July 17 2011 04:59 SuitGuy wrote: I have been reviewing the information from both Skew and Machine over the past 3+ hours. Sorry for taking so long to make a statement, just wanted to get as much information as I could to make as fair a decision as possible for all parties involved.
It is my opinion that the matter between Skew and Machine/EG is that of a personal nature. In no official capacity is Machine or any other member of EG barred from playing in this event. It saddens me that friends that go so far back can so quickly be divided by something so silly and childish. I truly hope that they come to terms and continue being friends. I invite all our friends from EG to play in tomorrow's event despite last night/today's transgressions.
I hope that we all, as a community, can put this dark moment behind us and come together for what these tournaments truly are, a spectacle of competition in the game we love among some of the very best the game has to offer.
ty suitguy Will talk it over with EG guys but I am urging them to go.. we truly want to compete/meet our new community. Skew getting inbetween that was some dumb shit but we can overlook that as long as Machine isn't banned (like you said).
On July 17 2011 04:53 Castrophy wrote: I was really looking forward to this event with a lot of great players being involved. Sad that it has to get blown up because of petty bullshit like this.
You guys are professionals and I think you should come to a mutual agreement to be bigger people, drop the arguement and make this an awesome lan. Regardless of who is right or who is wrong all this does is shine a negative light on both parties involved.
Excuse me? What resolution do you want EG to offer?
We show up and play without Machine? We let Skew call Machine a liar and just shrug it off?
How is EG in a negative light here?
I should have worded my post a bit better. I have agreed with EG from the start on this issue but it rubbed me the wrong way that you guys would come here to discuss it. Even though you did give your reasoning behind making it public this sort of drama which is really just argueing holds back the community as a whole.
Regardless I'm glad that suitguy posted a response and hope that you guys are there. Still a big fan of all you guys espically Machine so I'd like to see you guys do well!
It would be nice to know if the EG members are going or not soon, me and a few other friends were going to go down and play, but will probably not go if EG does not show up.
On July 17 2011 06:28 Thehealbus wrote: It would be nice to know if the EG members are going or not soon, me and a few other friends were going to go down and play, but will probably not go if EG does not show up.
If anything, it should encourage you to go even more, if you're playing, since the chances are higher for you to place higher, with fewer pros showing up.
ty suitguy Will talk it over with EG guys but I am urging them to go.. we truly want to compete/meet our new community. Skew getting inbetween that was some dumb shit but we can overlook that as long as Machine isn't banned (like you said).
Last offer to get a ride from me, on the way from gilbert.
edit: I was gonna make an EG cheerful :O hope you guys show up even if not to play.
On July 17 2011 08:10 leftykill wrote: Some big names coming out to the desert? Already have plans in the morning, but I might come and spectate to watch some pros in action!
don't forget your $3 to spectate ^_^, I would expect 60+ people there 46 playing and almost 20 spectators, prizepool will be very good for the pros
I am looking for a ride back home, I have a way there and not home ... I live in Chandler off Dobson and Warner. (Warner and 101ish) If you can give me a ride there or close to there afterwards please let me know. Thanks!
I think everyone needs to rethink their motives on this particular thread. The public bickering and statement making on this thread needs to go into another thread topic because this symphony of comments is giving the ARIZONA community a sense of disconnect which SuitGuy and other locals have worked hard to build up. The people who actually attend the event every month regularly don't deserve higher tier individuals producing a sense of chaotic community on this thread. Its not considerate. The completely private issue at hand deserves an entirely different thread subject regardless the resulting matter of machine getting supposedly banned from this event.
I hope all of this is resolved and the irony of an online suspicion and opposing opinions mixed with the negativity brought to a LAN event needs to get taken care of outside of this thread.
For the sake of the majority of the community that supports eg AND sixjax (more importantly Arizona SC2 gaming in general) I hope all of you guys can attend the event and build upon everyone's progress with this event.
On July 17 2011 06:28 Thehealbus wrote: It would be nice to know if the EG members are going or not soon, me and a few other friends were going to go down and play, but will probably not go if EG does not show up.
I've been told that the EG guys will be there tomorrow
I have made the decision to participate in the lan tomorrow. Honestly all of this drama had nothing to do with the hotkeyit lan whatsoever other than me being banned and now that I am unbanned and allowed to participate in this event I will do so. It would be selfish of me to not participate because all this is doing is helping the Arizona community aka my community of starcraft players.
I look forward to the lan tomorrow and look forward to meeting everyone again, and I hope everyone is looking forward to seeing EG. See you all tomorrow <3
So sad that I'm casting from home! Hope it wouldn't be too much of a bother, but would anyone mind getting me something signed by all of them? If the venue sells mousepads just get one and I'll pay you back in full!
Good moderator choices over there. Spouting shite about IdrA was a hacker in BW and it was actually him and not a fake 'EGIdrA' doing drop hacking in SC2.. lol
On July 18 2011 08:10 Jono7272 wrote: Good moderator choices over there. Spouting shite about IdrA was a hacker in BW and it was actually him and not a fake 'EGIdrA' doing drop hacking in SC2.. lol
lol a mod was saying that? My chat is broken for some reason on the stream page.
On July 18 2011 08:10 Jono7272 wrote: Good moderator choices over there. Spouting shite about IdrA was a hacker in BW and it was actually him and not a fake 'EGIdrA' doing drop hacking in SC2.. lol
lol a mod was saying that? My chat is broken for some reason on the stream page.
Hah yeah, I don't think he realises anyone can make an account called EGIdrA!
On July 18 2011 08:10 Jono7272 wrote: Good moderator choices over there. Spouting shite about IdrA was a hacker in BW and it was actually him and not a fake 'EGIdrA' doing drop hacking in SC2.. lol
lol a mod was saying that? My chat is broken for some reason on the stream page.
Hah yeah, I don't think he realises anyone can make an account called EGIdrA!
A couple of things: Is the chat non functional for anyone else? Shouldn't this be posted as on the side of TL as an event? Is DeMuslim still in this? Where are the brackets? Thanks in advance.
On July 18 2011 08:28 MCDayC wrote: A couple of things: Is the chat non functional for anyone else? Shouldn't this be posted as on the side of TL as an event? Is DeMuslim still in this? Where are the brackets? Thanks in advance.
1. Chat is broken for me too. 2. InsigmaTheory said he messaged Hot_Bid but no response. 3. DeMuslim is still in it. 4. On the first post it shows matchups for each round and the results after.
On July 18 2011 08:28 MCDayC wrote: A couple of things: Is the chat non functional for anyone else? Shouldn't this be posted as on the side of TL as an event? Is DeMuslim still in this? Where are the brackets? Thanks in advance.
1. Chat is broken for me too. 2. InsigmaTheory said he messaged Hot_Bid but no response. 3. DeMuslim is still in it. 4. On the first post it shows matchups for each round and the results after.
Thank you very much. The chat for multiple JTVs have been bad recently. GOGO DEMUSLIM!
Why are all the pros matching up with pros in group stages? That seems pretty odd that some of them will have guarnateed losses and won't have the best records to make it to top 8, or am i reading the format wrong?
On July 18 2011 08:28 MCDayC wrote: A couple of things: Is the chat non functional for anyone else? Shouldn't this be posted as on the side of TL as an event? Is DeMuslim still in this? Where are the brackets? Thanks in advance.
1. Chat is broken for me too. 2. InsigmaTheory said he messaged Hot_Bid but no response. 3. DeMuslim is still in it. 4. On the first post it shows matchups for each round and the results after.
On July 18 2011 08:28 MCDayC wrote: A couple of things: Is the chat non functional for anyone else? Shouldn't this be posted as on the side of TL as an event? Is DeMuslim still in this? Where are the brackets? Thanks in advance.
1. Chat is broken for me too. 2. InsigmaTheory said he messaged Hot_Bid but no response. 3. DeMuslim is still in it. 4. On the first post it shows matchups for each round and the results after.
On July 18 2011 08:28 MCDayC wrote: A couple of things: Is the chat non functional for anyone else? Shouldn't this be posted as on the side of TL as an event? Is DeMuslim still in this? Where are the brackets? Thanks in advance.
1. Chat is broken for me too. 2. InsigmaTheory said he messaged Hot_Bid but no response. 3. DeMuslim is still in it. 4. On the first post it shows matchups for each round and the results after.
Sorry guys, I wasn't clear and it was my bad. I messaged Kennigit but I don't think he's online. We will submit to the calendar for future events and I hope to see you all back here!
Once again my heart goes out to everyone involved in this! The players, the sponsor, the guy in the suit, and every one of you viewers!
Thanks again everyone! Keep an eye out for future Hotkeyit tournaments here in AZ, we've got A LOT planned that we're implementing each time!
Well due to my amatuer photography skills 2/3 of the photos I took were shit, but dont worry I'll post 2/3 of the photos after HEAVY (emphasis on the heavy)photo editing. Was a fun lan, hope I can make it to the august lan, hopefully Howie's Game Shack will have their AC working ^_^. Stay tuned for EG/tourny pics.
Thanks to everyone for coming out. Always looking to improve the experience for everyone and I have a good idea of how to do that next month. I'll see you in August!
Yea its a weird system.. i like it cuz its appeals to the mass and gives everyone 4 games. but i hate it cuz theres 4 rounds of random(i know its weighted random, but still random). It also depends on how good the players you beat are to determine tie breaking.
i think a double elimn might be better... or just a better AC system. yes AC as in Air Conditioning. other then that, great tourny,thanks suit guy!
video is being worked on now, I should have interviews up at some point. Unfortunately there are no interviews with the EG players, it was too hot to think at the LAN and i didn't want to be a bother. There's also a bunch of pics of the crowd watching Lz vs lastshadow
Pictures are up, feel free to use them anywhere you like. Trust me I'm gonna practice my photography some more so hopefully in August there will be more quality pictures.
On July 19 2011 18:16 Boblhead wrote: Pictures are up, feel free to use them anywhere you like. Trust me I'm gonna practice my photography some more so hopefully in August there will be more quality pictures.
The interviews from the LAN have been uploaded. I must apologize once again for not seeking to interview any of team Evil Genius' players. I'm still quite timid about interviewing pro players because I don't want to case any trouble with broadcast rights or anything. Maybe if some EG players show up next time I'll approach them about it then. Sorry if this makes anyone unhappy.
The good news is there's a bunch of other interviews. I passed on Skew, iNkA, and PhiliBiRD since nothing worth mentioning has changed with them since last LAN and I'll be seeing them in Anaheim.
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