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Lipski
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland373 Posts
June 28 2011 07:31 GMT
#3481
On June 28 2011 16:28 JunkkaGom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 16:27 red4ce wrote:
Fantastic TvZ, above average TvT. Bad TvP. MMA is truly the son of Boxer.


Boxer's TvZ is not fantastic at all


he meant in brood war, probably
"i'll just train hard and win the next one"
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 07:31:59
June 28 2011 07:31 GMT
#3482
On June 28 2011 16:28 JunkkaGom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 16:27 red4ce wrote:
Fantastic TvZ, above average TvT. Bad TvP. MMA is truly the son of Boxer.


Boxer's TvZ is not fantastic at all


That was when he started SC2, now it's probably his best matchup.

Remember, he did really good vs DRG.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 28 2011 07:31 GMT
#3483
On June 28 2011 16:27 AgentV wrote:
fanboys upset with the loss and not admitting puzzle was beast in the last two games. same thing when he lost to polt. mma must be in a slump right, let's wait till puzzle wins the whole code a this season.

he never really outplayed MMA

MMA got really far behind because he didn't prepare for dts 2 games in a row
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
June 28 2011 07:31 GMT
#3484
On June 28 2011 16:28 JunkkaGom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 16:27 red4ce wrote:
Fantastic TvZ, above average TvT. Bad TvP. MMA is truly the son of Boxer.


Boxer's TvZ is not fantastic at all

Are you still trolling John?
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
June 28 2011 07:31 GMT
#3485
On June 28 2011 16:29 Greggle wrote:
Man, all my favorite players just kick ass for a while, then all the sudden slump like all hell. Boxer fell to Code A, Jinro might fall out of Code A, TLO out on medical, Min down to Code B, and MMA down to Code B. =(

Ryung and Alicia fighting!


You do know alicia is not gonna make it out of his group right ? :D
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
June 28 2011 07:31 GMT
#3486
On June 28 2011 16:30 Gorlin wrote:
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On June 28 2011 16:25 WindCalibur wrote:
MMA overrated. Can't believe he lost to dts twice. A turret isn't just for DTs you know. It can be used to deny the ob seeing your army size.

How is runner up in the ST, winner of MLG, and MVP of the past two GSTLs overrated...


Cause he lost 2 series now. completely throws out everything he's done. /sarcasm
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 28 2011 07:32 GMT
#3487
On June 28 2011 16:30 Gorlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 16:25 WindCalibur wrote:
MMA overrated. Can't believe he lost to dts twice. A turret isn't just for DTs you know. It can be used to deny the ob seeing your army size.

How is runner up in the ST, winner of MLG, and MVP of the past two GSTLs overrated...


MMA really isn't overrated that much, but his weakness is still TvP. He got somewhat lucky that he didn't play and tosses in the Super Tournament or MC/Naniwa/Huk at MLG.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Ulixes
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany25 Posts
June 28 2011 07:32 GMT
#3488
I dont get it, why are so many terrans taking the risk to get be killed by dts or losing alot of scans only to save freaking 100 minerals. He already had the ebay in both games.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
June 28 2011 07:32 GMT
#3489
On June 28 2011 16:31 Rayansaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 16:29 Greggle wrote:
Man, all my favorite players just kick ass for a while, then all the sudden slump like all hell. Boxer fell to Code A, Jinro might fall out of Code A, TLO out on medical, Min down to Code B, and MMA down to Code B. =(

Ryung and Alicia fighting!


You do know alicia is not gonna make it out of his group right ? :D


who's in his group? XD haven't paid much attention to the code S brackets.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 28 2011 07:32 GMT
#3490
On June 28 2011 16:31 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 16:30 Gorlin wrote:
On June 28 2011 16:25 WindCalibur wrote:
MMA overrated. Can't believe he lost to dts twice. A turret isn't just for DTs you know. It can be used to deny the ob seeing your army size.

How is runner up in the ST, winner of MLG, and MVP of the past two GSTLs overrated...


Cause he lost 2 series now. completely throws out everything he's done. /sarcasm

It's mystifying how short people's memories here are.
dpL
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden571 Posts
June 28 2011 07:33 GMT
#3491
On June 28 2011 16:32 Ulixes wrote:
I dont get it, why are so many terrans taking the risk to get be killed by dts or losing alot of scans only to save freaking 100 minerals. He already had the ebay in both games.

He didn't have the ebay in the first game.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
June 28 2011 07:33 GMT
#3492
On June 28 2011 16:31 pyro19 wrote:
I Have no Idea why people slump like this?? Did he just stop practicing or what?
Slumps like these have no Logical explanation other than the Fact that everybody else just got better.

Mindset, mindset, mindset. It's amazing how much a bad mindset can affect your game.
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
June 28 2011 07:33 GMT
#3493
qxc is such a good caster, please keep him!
the game is the game
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 28 2011 07:33 GMT
#3494
On June 28 2011 16:31 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 16:27 AgentV wrote:
fanboys upset with the loss and not admitting puzzle was beast in the last two games. same thing when he lost to polt. mma must be in a slump right, let's wait till puzzle wins the whole code a this season.

he never really outplayed MMA

MMA got really far behind because he didn't prepare for dts 2 games in a row

Definitely overestimating Puzzle. I'm not saying he's terrible, he might be pretty good but what really won the game for him was a lack of turrets from MMA. If he had turrets, MMA might've won pretty easily.
lacho_u
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria535 Posts
June 28 2011 07:33 GMT
#3495
On June 28 2011 16:31 Lipski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 16:28 JunkkaGom wrote:
On June 28 2011 16:27 red4ce wrote:
Fantastic TvZ, above average TvT. Bad TvP. MMA is truly the son of Boxer.


Boxer's TvZ is not fantastic at all


he meant in brood war, probably


Yep but SC2 is not brood war at all
Power is nothing without control
Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
June 28 2011 07:33 GMT
#3496
On June 28 2011 16:27 JKira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 16:23 Samhax wrote:
On June 28 2011 16:20 andaylin wrote:
On June 28 2011 16:20 vrok wrote:
On June 28 2011 16:18 ribboo wrote:
im gonna start go dt more often

Don't. Diamond and master players build turrets in my experience.

except pros, rofl.


that's so true...Tarson got dismantle by Huk with the same build...i really can't understand when you are a pro Terran, how you can lose to dt builds when they aren't dropped by warp prism. Are Terran that greedy?


Unfortunately, yes they are. When I play TvP with a lot of my friends they randomly have turrets in front of their entrance and main. Pro players don't want to spend that money if they don't have to. It's kind of like newbies building lots of cannons at their entrance cause they are scared. Pros would laugh at that, as they see no reason to do so (make turrets).


i'm not talking about making a billions turrets everywhere in your basis, but just 1 turret at your entrance that's it. If it was a dt drop like white ra do often, i can understand but it's just some fucking dts who sneak from your main entrance.i love MMA, but i'm so pissed right now because he lost in a pretty bad fashion way, Puzzle control were not that good, he could have won those games.
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 28 2011 07:33 GMT
#3497
I don't get how this is an upset.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/665_MMA
MMA is terrible against Protoss. You can't be a dominant player unless you have all 3 matchups over 60%
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
SpecFire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1681 Posts
June 28 2011 07:33 GMT
#3498
On June 28 2011 16:32 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 16:31 Rayansaki wrote:
On June 28 2011 16:29 Greggle wrote:
Man, all my favorite players just kick ass for a while, then all the sudden slump like all hell. Boxer fell to Code A, Jinro might fall out of Code A, TLO out on medical, Min down to Code B, and MMA down to Code B. =(

Ryung and Alicia fighting!


You do know alicia is not gonna make it out of his group right ? :D


who's in his group? XD haven't paid much attention to the code S brackets.


.........losira AND marineking..and somebody else
•|SlayerS_MMA| • Ryung • Fin • Puzzle •
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 07:34:45
June 28 2011 07:33 GMT
#3499
On June 28 2011 16:24 KaraJjang wrote:
puzzle seems very good at mind games

More like MMA's style is well known.

That is a problem with players doing well. The format of GSL allows plenty of time for others to study your style and game, and all they have to do is prepare 2-3 games to counter you, while you have no idea how they play. We saw it happen to Fruitdealer, Kyrix, MKP, etc etc. Unless MMA starts mixing up his style like MKP has, he's not gonna get far like this.

Puzzle knows MMA's weak early games, so he took the risk, because he knew MMA would most likely not attack him. And it paid off big time. You also see puzzle getting multiple cannons at all his bases. No one really does that unless you know your opponent likes dropping a lot, and he does.

Imo, the format of GSL needs to change, as the current format isn't really dividing players into 3 different skill categories. We saw how easily it is for a lower code player beating a higher one, it is almost pointless to say "I'm a Code S" player nowadays.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 28 2011 07:33 GMT
#3500
On June 28 2011 16:33 lacho_u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 16:31 Lipski wrote:
On June 28 2011 16:28 JunkkaGom wrote:
On June 28 2011 16:27 red4ce wrote:
Fantastic TvZ, above average TvT. Bad TvP. MMA is truly the son of Boxer.


Boxer's TvZ is not fantastic at all


he meant in brood war, probably


Yep but SC2 is not brood war at all

He's not talking about Boxer's SC2 skill, just how MMA and Boxer have similar backgrounds/characteristics.
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