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Sadly it seems I have to put this up yet again. Any of the following types of posts will be met with immediate bans:

Imbalance whine/Player bashing/Caster bashing/Stream complaining/Off topic arguing.

Stick to the games and enjoy the event and its free services and coverage.
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
June 20 2011 12:18 GMT
#3481
On June 20 2011 21:16 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 21:13 Yaotzin wrote:
If HuK beats Bomber to take DH, he's the best foreigner player.

Anyone disagree?


He's not a foreigner! + Show Spoiler +
if you're completely retarded

Uh, even though Huk has practiced in Korea for quite some time, I'd still call him a foreigner.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
June 20 2011 12:18 GMT
#3482
On June 20 2011 21:17 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 21:15 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:13 Yaotzin wrote:
If HuK beats Bomber to take DH, he's the best foreigner player.

Anyone disagree?


Yes, one Bo5 doesn't make you the best XYZ

It's not just one Bo5. It's July, Socke, Bomber, Moon...


One tournament doesn't establish a 'best player'. People need to stop jumping so quickly to huge conclusions; the best player changes from week to week. If Huk wins he's the best player who attended Dreamhack at that time; nothing more, nothing less.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
norterrible
Profile Joined October 2009
United States618 Posts
June 20 2011 12:19 GMT
#3483
On June 20 2011 21:18 asperger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 21:16 Kevan wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:13 Yaotzin wrote:
If HuK beats Bomber to take DH, he's the best foreigner player.

Anyone disagree?


He's not a foreigner! + Show Spoiler +
if you're completely retarded

Uh, even though Huk has practiced in Korea for quite some time, I'd still call him a foreigner.


ARE YOU SERIOUS????????? WHO CARES?!?!?!
kekeke
Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
June 20 2011 12:19 GMT
#3484
On June 20 2011 21:17 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 21:13 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:12 TheRidd wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:09 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:07 eggs wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:07 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:05 Sneakyz wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:04 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:03 zestzorb wrote:
I think it's pretty clear that HuK is not Korean.

He represented Team USA against Team Korea back in GSL world championship.

You mean Team World.

Clearly you didn't watch the tournament

No but I also see that no foreigner in that tournament was actually American.


Coach Artosis

Liquipedia doesn't show coaches



They were ALL Americans!

+ Show Spoiler +
Artosis called it by accident Team America and that's why we joke about this :p

Ahhhhh

lol I'm extremely new to SC2 I've only been into it for like 3 weeks so I only get some things like top 3 control and dont worry thats halo.

The world championship is free to watch on GOM (they even have uploaded VODs with tastosis or Korean commentary, your choice).
I really encourage you to watch it
http://www.gomtv.net/2011championship/schedule/


Indeed the showmatch was really fun and kinda epic. After the normal tournament, it's just an usual GSL basically :D
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
June 20 2011 12:19 GMT
#3485
On June 20 2011 21:17 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 21:13 Yaotzin wrote:
If HuK beats Bomber to take DH, he's the best foreigner player.

Anyone disagree?

At the moment I'd agree, but things can change quickly.


Yes, it will be the greatest victory for a "foreigner" in SC2.
OrChard
Profile Joined February 2011
Hong Kong1119 Posts
June 20 2011 12:19 GMT
#3486
Huk fighting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Revenge for MC and Protoss please!
En toro Tassadar
Protosser
Rinnegan5
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands319 Posts
June 20 2011 12:19 GMT
#3487
I actually hope that Moon wins...he's still the fifth race! WC3 legend!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 20 2011 12:19 GMT
#3488
On June 20 2011 21:16 Pyrthas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 21:13 Yaotzin wrote:
If HuK beats Bomber to take DH, he's the best foreigner player.

Anyone disagree?

One match does not a best player establish.

Anyone disagree?

[Note: I am not saying Huk is not the best foreigner. I am saying that I do not think that whether he is the best foreigner depends on whether he wins a single match against either Bomber or Moon.]

well then no one can consider thorzain or naniwa.... and huk has won a mlg and is a current code s player. wins arent everything, its the whole body of work. winning dreamhack would be the biggest foreign win in a tournament with koreans.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
June 20 2011 12:19 GMT
#3489
On June 20 2011 21:17 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 21:13 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:12 TheRidd wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:09 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:07 eggs wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:07 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:05 Sneakyz wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:04 Femari wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:03 zestzorb wrote:
I think it's pretty clear that HuK is not Korean.

He represented Team USA against Team Korea back in GSL world championship.

You mean Team World.

Clearly you didn't watch the tournament

No but I also see that no foreigner in that tournament was actually American.


Coach Artosis

Liquipedia doesn't show coaches



They were ALL Americans!

+ Show Spoiler +
Artosis called it by accident Team America and that's why we joke about this :p

Ahhhhh

lol I'm extremely new to SC2 I've only been into it for like 3 weeks so I only get some things like top 3 control and dont worry thats halo.

The world championship is free to watch on GOM (they even have uploaded VODs with tastosis or Korean commentary, your choice).
I really encourage you to watch it
http://www.gomtv.net/2011championship/schedule/

Thanks for letting me know, I'll be sure to get to that then.

lol for me the past 3 weeks have been nonstop VoD and Day9 Dailies (literally nonstop, only bathroom and food breaks since it's summer). I may need a break soon.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 12:21:40
June 20 2011 12:19 GMT
#3490
On June 20 2011 21:17 Dariusz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 21:13 qwaykee wrote:
people should focus more on being happy for Huk rather then discussing things like if he's korean or not. it's insignificant


He wasn't born in Korea nor have korean citizenship, there is no discussion, just plain trolling and internet ignorance.


i wasn't born in the country that both my parents were born in nor do i have citizenship of that country. am i not the same nationality as them?
i definitely wasn't raised like an American and English was not my first language. and on legal documents i don't check the box for Native American.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 20 2011 12:19 GMT
#3491
On June 20 2011 21:16 derb2k2 wrote:
how many minutes till next semi?

10
ckast
Profile Joined September 2010
175 Posts
June 20 2011 12:20 GMT
#3492
On June 20 2011 21:16 Paradice wrote:
Hopefully MC has got HuK in a corner somewhere and they are discussing how to beat Bomber...

If Moon wins then I feel HuK is the favourite. But Bomber is gonna be tough. GL HuK!


didnt you see MC said "korea fighting" after his GG?
I believe he is going to help bomber instead
lacho_u
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria535 Posts
June 20 2011 12:20 GMT
#3493
MC PICKING BOMBER AT HIS GROUP FOR CODE S JULY :D :D
Power is nothing without control
Logo2010
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
June 20 2011 12:20 GMT
#3494
On June 20 2011 21:09 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 21:03 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:00 Jampackedeon wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:53 CaptainTwig wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:48 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:46 Gheizen64 wrote:
This topic is so stupid to read.

Suddendly people think the nation where you play has to determine your nationality. It isn't like this in ANY sport, so please stfu. If people move to a nation with better infrastructures for training they don't change nationality. Messi and Ronaldo isn't spanish , they play in spanish teams. Same goes for Huk, he isn't Korean for the mother of god, he play in a korean team.

I couldn't care less about who win but the fanboysm in this thread is making me puke.


Yeah and it isn't about nationality but practice environment / scene.

People like iNcontroL and IdrA have been spouting nonsense like "Korea isn't the place to be"

Bullshit.

Yeah if you wanna feast on the scraps and be a B-class player, stay in the US or wherever, but if you wanna take the big tournies and be the best player you can be there is absolutely no alternative to going to Korea.


Couldn't have put it better my friend. If us non-koreans ever establish anything close to the training/tournament system they have set-up. I might start taking iNcontrols, IdrA, demuslim etc comments seriously.


This is just silly, InControl and the whole EG team have said that they really want to ramp up their practice schedule and will be creating their own team house to achieve a Korean-like regiment for the next MLG. Clearly they think that style of practicing has value. HOWEVER, what InControl and Idra were actually saying is that the TOURNAMENT scene of Korea isn't worth it because of the lack of tournaments and time commitment per payoff. The west has tons of cash up and way better opportunity for the team to do well and attract attention to them and their sponsors. Try to not misquote people when you have your axe to grind.



Well, that's actually bullshit as well.

If you look at the Korean vs Foreigner winnings statistics, Koreans have won far far more.

And also it isn't just about playing the game and winning as much as possible as soon as possible.

None of the US players are at the peak of their skill, they should go to Korea and get good. Once they feel that a skill plateau is incoming they can go to the West to take down the lesser tournies (which also pay out way less)


Because it's that easy. Goodbye family and friends, whole lifestyle, bills, commitments/dependents, culture, girlfriend if i have one, country i love... etc etc... I'm just gonna drop everything and move over to a country where i don't speak a word of the spoken language and try and compete for 1 tournament. It will for a long time probably cost me more money than i make but what the hell, there's a chance i might be better for it so it's worth the risk.

Hah this reminds of the nerds Tastless talks about. 'Can I have everything I want?' NO GODDAMMIT!
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
June 20 2011 12:20 GMT
#3495
I spent a few posts trying to explain HuK's oGs training, his obvious copies of MC builds, his GSL experience... etc.. but I'm quite done with that (I'm hitting myself for expecting more from an LR thread). HuK is foreigner. Bomber will eat him with a side of kimchi. Koreans > Foreigners forever. End of discussion.
ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
June 20 2011 12:20 GMT
#3496
On June 20 2011 21:19 norterrible wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 21:18 asperger wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:16 Kevan wrote:
On June 20 2011 21:13 Yaotzin wrote:
If HuK beats Bomber to take DH, he's the best foreigner player.

Anyone disagree?


He's not a foreigner! + Show Spoiler +
if you're completely retarded

Uh, even though Huk has practiced in Korea for quite some time, I'd still call him a foreigner.


ARE YOU SERIOUS????????? WHO CARES?!?!?!

we gotta do this all over again now
dpL
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden571 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 12:21:49
June 20 2011 12:20 GMT
#3497
The only way to establish whether or not HuK is foreigner is to ask him if he wants to know what love is.
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
June 20 2011 12:21 GMT
#3498
On June 20 2011 21:05 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 21:00 Jampackedeon wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:53 CaptainTwig wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:48 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 20 2011 20:46 Gheizen64 wrote:
This topic is so stupid to read.

Suddendly people think the nation where you play has to determine your nationality. It isn't like this in ANY sport, so please stfu. If people move to a nation with better infrastructures for training they don't change nationality. Messi and Ronaldo isn't spanish , they play in spanish teams. Same goes for Huk, he isn't Korean for the mother of god, he play in a korean team.

I couldn't care less about who win but the fanboysm in this thread is making me puke.


Yeah and it isn't about nationality but practice environment / scene.

People like iNcontroL and IdrA have been spouting nonsense like "Korea isn't the place to be"

Bullshit.

Yeah if you wanna feast on the scraps and be a B-class player, stay in the US or wherever, but if you wanna take the big tournies and be the best player you can be there is absolutely no alternative to going to Korea.


Couldn't have put it better my friend. If us non-koreans ever establish anything close to the training/tournament system they have set-up. I might start taking iNcontrols, IdrA, demuslim etc comments seriously.


This is just silly, InControl and the whole EG team have said that they really want to ramp up their practice schedule and will be creating their own team house to achieve a Korean-like regiment for the next MLG. Clearly they think that style of practicing has value. HOWEVER, what InControl and Idra were actually saying is that the TOURNAMENT scene of Korea isn't worth it because of the lack of tournaments and time commitment per payoff. The west has tons of cash up and way better opportunity for the team to do well and attract attention to them and their sponsors. Try to not misquote people when you have your axe to grind.


Even then, training with Idra, Machine, Axslav, Incontrol and Strife Cro is not at all comparable to a house containing MC, Nada, Supernova, Inca, TOP, Zenio, Hyperdub, Ensnare, Cezanne, Huk and Jinro all being coached by theWind to ensure their practice is effective and copious.


That wasn't my point, my point was that this person was saying that Idra and Incontrol thought Korean style practice was bad or wouldn't help, when in fact they were making comments on the tournament scene in Korea. They are trying to emulate the Korean training system as best they can, which means they think it works. I just hate people who misconstrue what is being said by people and instead insert their own beef.
nick1689
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia494 Posts
June 20 2011 12:21 GMT
#3499
Hey so how long until the next semi final match, and then the final??



Ahh man i missed so many epic matches! Huk 2-0 July?!?1! Go Huk you absolute baller
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
June 20 2011 12:21 GMT
#3500
On June 20 2011 21:19 OrChard wrote:
Huk fighting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Revenge for MC and Protoss please!
En toro Tassadar


En tAro Tassadar.
Btw, I hope moderators start banning people who still keep debating whether Huk is American/Canadian/foreigner/Korean/any other bullshit.
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