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On June 20 2011 05:40 ZapRoffo wrote:
Did anyone notice that there was a red blob under idra's ramp to his 3rd base, also that of the 9 hydra reinforcement only like 5 of them were in the battle? I feel like he forgot a whole bunch of units at his 3rd base rally.
Yea I did, suprised more people aren't commentating this instead of just instantly arguing about stalker vs roach imbalancement.
I want to see a replay of that.
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On June 20 2011 05:43 QTIP. wrote:
Poor White-RA. God of war just owning him like a little nub =\
Moon the god of war?
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Interesting final game for Idra. It seemed like he wanted to force an engagement because he was afraid of the protoss late game army. If he's been more patient and simply denied MC's third and tried for some sandwich plays it may have worked out better. But sitting on a 200/200 roach army isn't that great, so he probably made the right decision. He tried to make an army trade, he just didn't end up killing much.
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On June 20 2011 05:37 SuperStyle wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:35 zev318 wrote:On June 20 2011 05:31 eYeball wrote:On June 20 2011 05:30 zev318 wrote:
blink stalkers are too good vs anything tbh Damn balance whiner, please leave the forum if your going to complain T_T Great micro by MC ur retarded. how is that whining? blink stalker r very good vs just about anything, cause u can blink back. Actually you are, just get the fucking infestors, fungal them and quit whining about the balance or protoss.
Get trolled dude...get trolled....
On June 20 2011 05:35 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:33 Swagasaurus wrote:
Tired of watching someone get outplayed but win because they know how to abusive broken mechanics.
Very disappointed by this series. Oh please. IdrA played a very sub-par game, making terrible decision mid-late game.
Your analysis is unparalleled even by Day9.
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I really want to see the army supply during the idra and mc fights. Idra has way more supply but his army didn't look much bigger so I think he had tons of supply tied in drones
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On June 20 2011 05:41 crappen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:36 Omegalisk wrote:
Sigh, another game won by MC...
Don't get me wrong, MC is a great player, he is just kinda boring to watch, TBH. Blink stalkers aren't that exciting... Agreed, having watched July vs Thorzain, its like there is two different games. We simply dont have any foreign zerg atm that can handle a protoss like MC. Socke destroys zergs as well. We have Sen and July, thank god.
crappen must've not watched MC vs. Losira game 2 in MLG. MC's games are only sometimes boring because they're ridiculously one sided since he's so much better than the people he plays against. He shows amazing games when matched up against equals like Losira
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On June 20 2011 05:31 Clog wrote:No. He had poor army comp. There is a difference. You don't micro roaches against blink stalkers much at all
one roach burrow micro (like blink micro) is actually very good, but idra don't like micro
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On June 20 2011 05:44 shabinka wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:42 Rayansaki wrote:On June 20 2011 05:39 spacer wrote:
according to all idra haters, massing 1 unit(roaches)=bad play so idra sucks. But massing 1 unit(stalkers)=good play. wow massing one unit (stalkers) aganinst 1 unit (roaches) IS good play. Massing roaches vs Stalkers IS bad play. Or... you know.. he had Hydras too...
7/8/9 that just popped out.
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On June 20 2011 05:44 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:43 QTIP. wrote:
Poor White-RA. God of war just owning him like a little nub =\ WhiteRa played against Moon not July.
Poor White-RA. The 5th race just owning him like a little nub =\
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On June 20 2011 05:45 FinnGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:43 QTIP. wrote:
Poor White-RA. God of war just owning him like a little nub =\ Moon the god of war?
god of warcraft maybe ^_^
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So many ZvP experts in this thread. TL.net is both hillarious and sad when Idra loses.
Soooo, when is the next game?
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On June 20 2011 05:42 chaopow wrote:
To be totally honest, Idra should have won game 2. He outplayed MC outright and completely stopped his dt rush. He even forced the nexus cancel. Idra needs to add lings and try to get surrounds and flanks when engaging. Make roaches cost 3 supply and have them spawn 2 at a time like zerglings???
He sort of outplayed MC, but feel behind on upgrades and lost a lot of roaches killing 4 sentries. Also, he never get lings against blink stalkers or counter attacks. He keeps trying to match the protoss ball for ball.
The best zergs I have watched have gone mutas, but idra flat out refuses to build them.
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On June 20 2011 05:42 eot wrote:
I'm not angry that IdrA lost (I was cheering for MC) but does anyone agree that maybe Stalkers should be 3 supply? I just think that if you max out on upgraded Stalkers it's a bit too strong, you get too many of them.
Its not the stalker's HP, food or DPS. It's the range making it so strong in big army vs big army fights. The whole army is shooting.
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On June 20 2011 05:43 QTIP. wrote:
Poor White-RA. God of war just owning him like a little nub =\
July is God of War :o Not Moon
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Does anyone know what the koreans are saying? I know they watched MLG and tweeted a bunch of fun stuff
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On June 20 2011 05:43 Bergys wrote:
For the people that are unable to think beyond food counts:
170 supply vs 112 (Unsure of exact food counts but point still stands).
Both players have 65ish drones. Idra has 3-4 queens? That leaves MC with an army supply of 48 and idra with and army supply of 94.
Roach Cost = 75/25
Roach total minerals = 3525
Roach Total Gas = 1175
Stalker Cost = 125/50
Stalker total Minerals = 3000
Stalker total Gas = 1200
Idra also had a higher supply = extra overlords so that factors in aswell.
MC had +2 while idra only had +1. Stalkers are also strong vs roaches since they do +damage to armor. MC also had blink and idra did not have any infestors or similar to counter it. Idra still had a stronger army value, but nowhere near as 170 supply vs 112 makes it sounds.
they didnt have equal drones/probes. MC had half of idras, you really need to look at a replay before attempting something like this.
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On June 20 2011 05:43 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:38 Stratos_speAr wrote:On June 20 2011 05:36 Ruyguy wrote:On June 20 2011 05:35 Theoren wrote:
Idra made way to many drones and didn't have much of an army advantage. When you consider MC has blink and +2 weapons it's no surprise he steamrolled Idra's pure Roach army. Idra's ZvP is pretty bad and he seems to have a mental block not only against MC but in the match up in general. but honestly I still hate the fact that a 170 supply army cannot kill a 110 protoss army.....kinda bullshit despite still being pure roach. No, it's not bullshit. You don't just get to sit back and go "herp derp spam R after making 100 Drones" and then say that you deserve a win. Not only that, IdrA probably had more workers than MC, meaning his army wasn't actually 60 larger. so 35 roachs vs 2 base sat which is wat like 50-60 probes so that would mean like 1 immortal and maybe 20 stalkers
Definitely more than 20 Stalkers, that Immortal, and what about the 6+ Sentries? IdrA lost a huge amount of Roaches to Force Field. IdrA just got outplayed. You need to suck it up.
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On June 20 2011 05:43 QTIP. wrote:
Poor White-RA. God of war just owning him like a little nub =\
God of War did not play White-Ray. Moon did.
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On June 20 2011 05:43 FinnGamer wrote:Naniwa
Then either him or July will have the biggest chance of losing out of the Koreans
July's ZvZ isn't great.
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Going to be sick matches tomorrow:
Socke vs HuK - i Really think HuK is in a great shape atm
July vs Sen - 2-6pool's - easy 
MC vs Bomber - What?! Could be the finals... i still think MC has some problems against T
Naniwa vs Moon - nAni's tvz is just sick, he is gonna win that.
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