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GarlicSauce
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands92 Posts
June 15 2011 14:02 GMT
#281
On June 15 2011 22:56 Denia1 wrote:
Why did BRAT_OK end up in the top 30 and EGiNcontrol didn't? They were both at 4-5 W/L record with -4 points, and yet BRAT_OK is mysteriously in and iNcontrol out without any tiebreak? Is there any other part of the ranking system that affected the outcome of this, or how did this happen, anyone knows?


Maybe because in their respective divisions BRAT_OK finished 6th, and iNcontroL finished 8th? Not sure though.
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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 14:04:13
June 15 2011 14:03 GMT
#282
On June 15 2011 22:56 Denia1 wrote:
Why did BRAT_OK end up in the top 30 and EGiNcontrol didn't? They were both at 4-5 W/L record with -4 points, and yet BRAT_OK is mysteriously in and iNcontrol out without any tiebreak? Is there any other part of the ranking system that affected the outcome of this, or how did this happen, anyone knows?


The stats page on nasl.tv is somewhat inflexible. If you remember way back in Week 1, MC was still stuck in an airport in Turkey and received a w/o. The resulting judgement is MC received a forfeit lost but was not deducted points, and Brat_OK receives a free-win and +2 points to his score.

The stats page seems to unable to reflect such a discrepency. Because of this, Brat_OK is actually 4-5 (-2pt) whereas incontrol is 4-5 (-4pt).
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Spacemanspiff
Profile Joined September 2010
United States116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 14:10:53
June 15 2011 14:10 GMT
#283
Is there an EU cast? Is it worth watching?
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 14:11:22
June 15 2011 14:11 GMT
#284
I'm sorry, but that name of the OP is rich. I'm dying. To be a bit off topic.
Denia1
Profile Joined January 2011
148 Posts
June 15 2011 14:15 GMT
#285
On June 15 2011 23:03 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 22:56 Denia1 wrote:
Why did BRAT_OK end up in the top 30 and EGiNcontrol didn't? They were both at 4-5 W/L record with -4 points, and yet BRAT_OK is mysteriously in and iNcontrol out without any tiebreak? Is there any other part of the ranking system that affected the outcome of this, or how did this happen, anyone knows?


The stats page on nasl.tv is somewhat inflexible. If you remember way back in Week 1, MC was still stuck in an airport in Turkey and received a w/o. The resulting judgement is MC received a forfeit lost but was not deducted points, and Brat_OK receives a free-win and +2 points to his score.

The stats page seems to unable to reflect such a discrepency. Because of this, Brat_OK is actually 4-5 (-2pt) whereas incontrol is 4-5 (-4pt).


That could explain it, thanks. Formerly, I thought walkovers only counted as a win or a loss without any points to compensate the loser who hasn't actually lost and also not to unfairly put the winner who hasn't actually won at a further advantage through the points. But if it's just a statistics page discrepancy then the outcome of top 30 is comprehensible. I also thought iNcontroL may have voluntarily given up the spot to cast or that the standings in their respective divisions as mentioned in the above post may have been the cause, but your explanation works without trying to find solutions out of the system .
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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
June 15 2011 14:29 GMT
#286
I doubled checked Xeris' numbers and found no foul play. I believe several others, including motbob, did the same. So we should believe Xeris, at least for this time.

iNcontroL has the unfortunate honor of being the lowest scoring 4-win player, which compound with the fact that there are a total of 31 players (not including the medical red-shirted TLO) players with 4 or more wins, means that he is the poor fellow that won't make the playoffs.

Rest well, iNcontroL, good luck Season 2!
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 15 2011 14:32 GMT
#287
On June 15 2011 23:10 Spacemanspiff wrote:
Is there an EU cast? Is it worth watching?


Not really that great of games just read the live reports
Moai
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy47 Posts
June 15 2011 14:55 GMT
#288
there will be the re-stream edition for europeans ?
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
June 15 2011 14:55 GMT
#289
The games were pretty lame but I really enjoyed having moletrap and diggity cast, I hope that this is not a one time thing. Also eventually it would be nice if NASL eventually has some consistency in who they use for casters, my enjoyment of it varies greatly based on that (sorry gretorp) so it's kind of a crap shoot for me if it's worth tuning in or not.
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Hrwa
Profile Joined August 2010
Croatia147 Posts
June 15 2011 15:18 GMT
#290
On June 15 2011 23:55 Treemonkeys wrote:
The games were pretty lame but I really enjoyed having moletrap and diggity cast, I hope that this is not a one time thing. Also eventually it would be nice if NASL eventually has some consistency in who they use for casters, my enjoyment of it varies greatly based on that (sorry gretorp) so it's kind of a crap shoot for me if it's worth tuning in or not.


I think moletrap mentioned yesterday that they will be casting this week, and incontrol and gretorp next week.
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Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
June 15 2011 15:27 GMT
#291
Ugh need beer for smartmaking.... can't someone make a nice graphic for this so it's easier to get a overall picture of what the hell they're fighting for and what happens when people win/lose?

MLG had some crazy rules and I didn't understand half of them but atleast the nice graphs made it easy to understand who would be playing who and somewhat why.
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Zeiryuu
Profile Joined March 2010
Philippines231 Posts
June 15 2011 15:34 GMT
#292
NaDa vs July will be good. If it's MC vs Boxer, I hope Alicia helps Boxer train ALOT!
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 15:51:46
June 15 2011 15:50 GMT
#293
On June 15 2011 22:56 Denia1 wrote:
Why did BRAT_OK end up in the top 30 and EGiNcontrol didn't? They were both at 4-5 W/L record with -4 points, and yet BRAT_OK is mysteriously in and iNcontrol out without any tiebreak? Is there any other part of the ranking system that affected the outcome of this, or how did this happen, anyone knows?


It has nothing to do with points or records, those just reflect your rank in your division, which is the only thing that matters.

On June 16 2011 00:34 Zeiryuu wrote:
NaDa vs July will be good. If it's MC vs Boxer, I hope Alicia helps Boxer train ALOT!


Lol for some reason I don't think Alicia could TvP MC.
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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
June 15 2011 16:08 GMT
#294
On June 16 2011 00:27 Krehlmar wrote:
Ugh need beer for smartmaking.... can't someone make a nice graphic for this so it's easier to get a overall picture of what the hell they're fighting for and what happens when people win/lose?

MLG had some crazy rules and I didn't understand half of them but atleast the nice graphs made it easy to understand who would be playing who and somewhat why.


http://nasl.tv/Standings/playoffs It's actually good for once.
Thank God and gunrun.
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
June 15 2011 16:24 GMT
#295
Is there a chance that the playoffs games will be as low, quality wise, as the tiebreakers games with people not taking care and/or throwing games?
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
June 15 2011 16:40 GMT
#296
Absolutely not. Elimination phase starts right now. You lose a single BO3 and you're out of the tournament.

This is actually when you can bet every single player still start taking it seriously.
SC2Chaos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States36 Posts
June 15 2011 17:15 GMT
#297
Huge fan of the casting duo. Would love if these two and Mr.Bitters could rotate.
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 17:27:14
June 15 2011 17:24 GMT
#298
It's not good for anyone involved... organizers, players, or spectators to have a system that lets a person intentionally throw a match to get in a more favorable group. For next season I hope the NASL considers allowing the winner of each match to choose their bracket therefore making the game VERY important rather than something you throw or forfeit.

I'd also like to see NASL do a better job keeping their site up to date. I see no reason someone can't take 5 minutes to update the stats after the broadcast. If NASL wasn't aiming to be the premier foreigner tournament I wouldn't care too much, but the flagship of esports needs to be well polished imo.
PDizzle
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 17:34:39
June 15 2011 17:31 GMT
#299
hahhaha am i the only one who thinks moletrap looks like a pedophile lol?
or some dude who sells stuff...

User was temp banned for this post.
PDizzle
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark1754 Posts
June 15 2011 17:35 GMT
#300
lol 6 pool :D
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