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Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
June 13 2011 13:30 GMT
#3301
On June 13 2011 22:27 Chinchillin wrote:
So what was this "weakness" mkp said he found? banshee harass?


Imo early game pressure or greedy builds would work quite well against MMA
sCFade
Profile Joined September 2010
307 Posts
June 13 2011 13:31 GMT
#3302
On June 13 2011 22:27 Chinchillin wrote:
So what was this "weakness" mkp said he found? banshee harass?


could be he was trying to psych MMA out like TOP said he was doing vs Nestea, or it could be that Combat Shield timing
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
June 13 2011 13:35 GMT
#3303
Marineking seems to get rattled so easily. After game 4 it looked like he was panicking.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
June 13 2011 13:37 GMT
#3304
On June 13 2011 22:27 Chinchillin wrote:
So what was this "weakness" mkp said he found? banshee harass?


Risky early game. He punished him for it in games 1 and 2 and went away from it from games 3-5. Baneling busts would wreck MMA easily XD.
neonbeam
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore6 Posts
June 13 2011 13:38 GMT
#3305
On June 13 2011 22:30 Imres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 22:27 Chinchillin wrote:
So what was this "weakness" mkp said he found? banshee harass?


Imo early game pressure or greedy builds would work quite well against MMA

I agree. It was clear he tried to exploit MMA's apparent weakness in the early game in games 2 and 5. It worked well in game 2 but MMA learned to build more than 1 bunker in game 5 and that was the end of it
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
June 13 2011 13:38 GMT
#3306
On June 13 2011 22:30 Imres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 22:27 Chinchillin wrote:
So what was this "weakness" mkp said he found? banshee harass?


Imo early game pressure or greedy builds would work quite well against MMA


I think so too. The combat shield timing attack worked to perfection in game 2. But MMA mixed it up afterwards by going blue-flame hellion or getting more bunkers instead of fast banshee play.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
June 13 2011 13:39 GMT
#3307
On June 13 2011 22:37 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 22:27 Chinchillin wrote:
So what was this "weakness" mkp said he found? banshee harass?


Risky early game. He punished him for it in games 1 and 2 and went away from it from games 3-5. Baneling busts would wreck MMA easily XD.


Is crysis management in TvZ is pretty good, and if you saw the game on Typhon peaks vs Losira, you'd acknowledge that you've to kill him with your bust :D

But in TvT there is some way to have BO win with early bio push, and that's exactly what you said
Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
June 13 2011 13:39 GMT
#3308
On June 13 2011 22:38 cablesc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 22:30 Imres wrote:
On June 13 2011 22:27 Chinchillin wrote:
So what was this "weakness" mkp said he found? banshee harass?


Imo early game pressure or greedy builds would work quite well against MMA


I think so too. The combat shield timing attack worked to perfection in game 2. But MMA mixed it up afterwards by going blue-flame hellion or getting more bunkers instead of fast banshee play.


MKP should have went fast sneaky 3rd on Crevasse :/
Deltablazy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada580 Posts
June 13 2011 13:43 GMT
#3309
MKP forever silver T.T

MMA is gonna win for sure now. I find it funny how Terran can only win a GSL if it's TvT
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 13:53:46
June 13 2011 13:46 GMT
#3310
On June 13 2011 22:00 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 21:56 Kitaen wrote:
moreover polt prolly plays the best tvp in the world right now

that alone would earn him a rightful place in the finals - and then, start looking at his results, polt didn't have a single "free win" round

he faced losira, huk, maka, alicia and now top - at least 3 of them are super experts at their vs t matchup - making his wins even more of an accomplishment

i dunno, i we cant really make a judgement on how good his TvP is until he plays against a good protoss. The only 2 good protoss he has played against are Alicia and MC. In the MC games, MC did a nexus first into robo, and lost to MM pressure, game 2, well the exact same thing happened.

Against alicia, alicia just simply played badly.

Im not saying polt is bad in TvP, i just think its unfair to say he has the best TvP in the world when he hasnt beaten a good protoss yet. The only times he has played against a good protoss (and they didnt fail horribly), he lost miserably (ace and choya)


lolwut

He lost to Choya 6 months ago. Ever since he graduated from Seoul University his only loss in TvP has been against Ace in the Asia Champions Trophy, which btw he's won twice. And the fact that you cite Choya as a good protoss shows how pathetic your argument is.

Alicia didn't play badly at all. People need to stop listening to Artosis when he confuses his feelings as a spectator with his analysis as a player. Alicia made small mistakes that Polt turned into big advantages but he never threw away a single game.

Everyone refuses to believe it but here it is: Polt is currently the best Terran in the world. And yes, he intentionally cuts SCVs for his pushes.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
panda_inc
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia170 Posts
June 13 2011 13:47 GMT
#3311
On June 13 2011 22:43 Deltablazy wrote:
MKP forever silver T.T

MMA is gonna win for sure now. I find it funny how Terran can only win a GSL if it's TvT


Oh my freken GRACIOUS is that a masked balance whine..... I CANT BELIEVE THIS terran players make me sick.
worosei
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia198 Posts
June 13 2011 13:49 GMT
#3312
I think it's conclusively proven...

That If you want to be a top Terran player in Sc2, u need to have ur name start with M and be able to be shortened to 3 letters:

MMA
MVP
MKP

Evidently, the more 'M's the better.
Peppo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden71 Posts
June 13 2011 13:51 GMT
#3313
On June 13 2011 22:49 worosei wrote:
I think it's conclusively proven...

That If you want to be a top Terran player in Sc2, u need to have ur name start with M and be able to be shortened to 3 letters:

MMA
MVP
MKP

Evidently, the more 'M's the better.


Changing I.D to MMM right now.

World domination here I come!
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
June 13 2011 13:56 GMT
#3314
On June 13 2011 22:46 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 22:00 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 13 2011 21:56 Kitaen wrote:
moreover polt prolly plays the best tvp in the world right now

that alone would earn him a rightful place in the finals - and then, start looking at his results, polt didn't have a single "free win" round

he faced losira, huk, maka, alicia and now top - at least 3 of them are super experts at their vs t matchup - making his wins even more of an accomplishment

i dunno, i we cant really make a judgement on how good his TvP is until he plays against a good protoss. The only 2 good protoss he has played against are Alicia and MC. In the MC games, MC did a nexus first into robo, and lost to MM pressure, game 2, well the exact same thing happened.

Against alicia, alicia just simply played badly.

Im not saying polt is bad in TvP, i just think its unfair to say he has the best TvP in the world when he hasnt beaten a good protoss yet. The only times he has played against a good protoss (and they didnt fail horribly), he lost miserably (ace and choya)


lolwut

He lost to Choya 6 months ago. Ever since he graduated from Seoul University his only loss in TvP has been against Ace in the Asia Champions Trophy, which btw he's won twice. And the fact that you cite Choya as a good protoss shows how pathetic your argument is.

Alicia didn't play badly at all. People need to stop listening to Artosis when he confuses his feelings as a spectator with his analysis as a player. Alicia made small mistakes that Polt turned into big advantages but he never threw away a single game.

Everyone refuses to believe it but here it is: Polt is currently the best Terran in the world. And yes, he intentionally cuts SCVs for his pushes.


funny how you ruined your whole post with that last statement........
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
June 13 2011 13:58 GMT
#3315
On June 13 2011 22:49 worosei wrote:
I think it's conclusively proven...

That If you want to be a top Terran player in Sc2, u need to have ur name start with M and be able to be shortened to 3 letters:

MMA
MVP
MKP

Evidently, the more 'M's the better.

Nope, I'm pretty sure a V is required to really be the most successful terran.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
June 13 2011 13:58 GMT
#3316
On June 13 2011 22:56 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 22:46 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On June 13 2011 22:00 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 13 2011 21:56 Kitaen wrote:
moreover polt prolly plays the best tvp in the world right now

that alone would earn him a rightful place in the finals - and then, start looking at his results, polt didn't have a single "free win" round

he faced losira, huk, maka, alicia and now top - at least 3 of them are super experts at their vs t matchup - making his wins even more of an accomplishment

i dunno, i we cant really make a judgement on how good his TvP is until he plays against a good protoss. The only 2 good protoss he has played against are Alicia and MC. In the MC games, MC did a nexus first into robo, and lost to MM pressure, game 2, well the exact same thing happened.

Against alicia, alicia just simply played badly.

Im not saying polt is bad in TvP, i just think its unfair to say he has the best TvP in the world when he hasnt beaten a good protoss yet. The only times he has played against a good protoss (and they didnt fail horribly), he lost miserably (ace and choya)


lolwut

He lost to Choya 6 months ago. Ever since he graduated from Seoul University his only loss in TvP has been against Ace in the Asia Champions Trophy, which btw he's won twice. And the fact that you cite Choya as a good protoss shows how pathetic your argument is.

Alicia didn't play badly at all. People need to stop listening to Artosis when he confuses his feelings as a spectator with his analysis as a player. Alicia made small mistakes that Polt turned into big advantages but he never threw away a single game.

Everyone refuses to believe it but here it is: Polt is currently the best Terran in the world. And yes, he intentionally cuts SCVs for his pushes.


funny how you ruined your whole post with that last statement........


Check his stats since his loss to Jinro and get back to me.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
June 13 2011 13:59 GMT
#3317
On June 13 2011 22:27 Chinchillin wrote:
So what was this "weakness" mkp said he found? banshee harass?



make a bunch of marines and attack because mma likes to expand and tech early. it worked in the early games but mma figured it out and had bunkers ready in game 5.
gladsheim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia676 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 14:02:40
June 13 2011 14:01 GMT
#3318
I wonder what boxer said to MMA when he was+ Show Spoiler +
0-2
Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
June 13 2011 14:02 GMT
#3319
On June 13 2011 22:59 bucckevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 22:27 Chinchillin wrote:
So what was this "weakness" mkp said he found? banshee harass?



make a bunch of marines and attack because mma likes to expand and tech early. it worked in the early games but mma figured it out and had bunkers ready in game 5.


And there was a ramp. No way bunkers save your expand on meta whithout putting you far behind.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
June 13 2011 14:03 GMT
#3320
On June 13 2011 23:01 gladsheim wrote:
I wonder what boxer said to MMA when he was+ Show Spoiler +
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