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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#2441
On June 13 2011 20:17 Asha` wrote:
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On June 13 2011 20:15 Moonwrath wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:13 dukethegold wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:10 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:07 Tachion wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:04 TheKefka wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS?


Its funny to me people consider MKP in the rank of Nestea.
Maybe I'm blind but i don't really see what all this fuss around MKP is about.
MKP is good at timing attacks,base trades and doing gimmicky builds.
I could name at least 5 terrans that are better imo.

He basically invented, or at least popularized marine splitting, akin to how July popularized Muta stacking in SC1. He's still going to be getting credit for revolutionizing that part of the game even in 10 years.


Except July ACTUALLY invented mutastacking. People would have split their marines sooner or later. MarineKing happened to do it sooner.


Umm...Nope.

July popularized it. His teammate Shark invented Mutastacking.

MKP was responsible for popularizing it. MVP used it first, but he lost. MKP's series against Zenio was the first time that Marine micro was truly demonstrated in astonishing effectiveness.


I thought it was MKP vs Kyrix on Shakuras Plateau where everyone was in disbelief at marines beating banelings with crazy splits and micro.


They were, MVP showcased some good splits vs Zenio in earlier rounds of that tournament but ultimately lost the series. MKP then blew everyone away with his control vs Kyrix.

---

This game is looking good for Polt so far =)

Thank god somebody else remembers MVP showing it before MKP.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 11:19:16
June 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#2442
On June 13 2011 20:16 frucisky wrote:
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On June 13 2011 20:15 CEPEHDREI wrote:
polt is a beast. will win against MMA too


avenge his team-mate!


i just jinxed him?!?

okay hes still winning phew
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
June 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#2443
On June 13 2011 20:10 Pipeline wrote:
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On June 13 2011 20:05 Adreme wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:02 eggs wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:00 Happy Frog wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS?


....

Do you watch the games or just read the results


well i see Polt vs TOP for the final spot
i think my point stands


It really doesnt when one side of the bracket is easier than the other side of the backet.


Its a problem with the super tournament format. Its GomTVs fault for having a billion terrans and so skewed brackets. Winning the super tournament is in my opinion NOT equal to winning Code S.

It should not be possible to go threw a GSL tournament of only TvTs. Not to bash MMA, but if he wins the entire thing it wont feel like a real winner. In my opinion you need to win in all match ups to be crowned as champion. But then again, its not MMAs fault, it is 100% on GomTV


How on earth is it GomTV's fault for having so many Terrans? :|
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 13 2011 11:18 GMT
#2444
On June 13 2011 20:17 youngminii wrote:
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On June 13 2011 20:17 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:15 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:14 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:13 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:13 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:12 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:11 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:09 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:08 youngminii wrote:
[quote]
3:30
A Factory dropped for both players at the exact same time.

4:30
A CC just started for Polt, both players making Hellions, a Reactor on Polt's Factory.

6:30
Starport started for both players. TOP attacking Polt with his Marines and Hellions and with some nice control kills off all of Polt's army, TOP runs away with a single Marine and a Hellion left. TOP making a CC himself while Polt is making a Banshee.

8:00
Polt getting his expansion up and running while TOP trying to fend off Hellion harass and Banshee harass. Polt's Banshee has 12 kills and TOP has no Marines left, only 2 Tanks and 22 SCVs.

9:30
A Viking finally comes out for TOP and kills off the Banshee (there was no cloak) but now the SCV counts are 32 for Polt to 20 for TOP. TOP gets his expansion up and running.

10:30
TOP almost 30 supply behind Polt. Polt sends his army across the map about to attack TOP.

11:30
TOP didn't have siege so Polt was able to get his Tanks in range of TOP's OC. TOP's single Viking has air dominance so TOP repels Polt's Tanks.

13:00
Both players moving their map around the map, Polt already sieges up at TOP's natural and TOP moves back to stop this but takes too many hits from Polt's Tanks. Polt gets cleaned up but TOP loses a ton of SCVs.
48 SCVs for Polt against 24 for TOP.

15:00
TOP trying to drop only 4 Marines but Polt has a Marine that scouts it. Polt then tries to intercept the drop with his Marines but misses it. The 4 Marines can't do anything though so TOP gets repelled. TOP drops Polt's newly established 3rd though and makes him lift his OC for a few seconds.

16:00
TOP tries to drop 8 Marines into Polt's natural but gets sniped when trying to retreat. Both players moving their armies and are about to collide in the middle of the map.

17:30
Top moves in to Polt's army and takes out all of Polt's tanks. TOP advances into Polt's 3rd and forces it to lift off.
lalala
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
June 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#2445
TOP got greedy :/
TeamLiquid fighting~ Gogo SlayerS Terrans!
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 11:19:32
June 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#2446
On June 13 2011 20:18 youngminii wrote:
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On June 13 2011 20:17 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:17 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:15 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:14 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:13 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:13 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:12 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:11 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:09 youngminii wrote:
[quote]
4:30
A CC just started for Polt, both players making Hellions, a Reactor on Polt's Factory.

6:30
Starport started for both players. TOP attacking Polt with his Marines and Hellions and with some nice control kills off all of Polt's army, TOP runs away with a single Marine and a Hellion left. TOP making a CC himself while Polt is making a Banshee.

8:00
Polt getting his expansion up and running while TOP trying to fend off Hellion harass and Banshee harass. Polt's Banshee has 12 kills and TOP has no Marines left, only 2 Tanks and 22 SCVs.

9:30
A Viking finally comes out for TOP and kills off the Banshee (there was no cloak) but now the SCV counts are 32 for Polt to 20 for TOP. TOP gets his expansion up and running.

10:30
TOP almost 30 supply behind Polt. Polt sends his army across the map about to attack TOP.

11:30
TOP didn't have siege so Polt was able to get his Tanks in range of TOP's OC. TOP's single Viking has air dominance so TOP repels Polt's Tanks.

13:00
Both players moving their map around the map, Polt already sieges up at TOP's natural and TOP moves back to stop this but takes too many hits from Polt's Tanks. Polt gets cleaned up but TOP loses a ton of SCVs.
48 SCVs for Polt against 24 for TOP.

15:00
TOP trying to drop only 4 Marines but Polt has a Marine that scouts it. Polt then tries to intercept the drop with his Marines but misses it. The 4 Marines can't do anything though so TOP gets repelled. TOP drops Polt's newly established 3rd though and makes him lift his OC for a few seconds.

16:00
TOP tries to drop 8 Marines into Polt's natural but gets sniped when trying to retreat. Both players moving their armies and are about to collide in the middle of the map.

17:30
Top moves in to Polt's army and takes out all of Polt's tanks. TOP advances into Polt's 3rd and forces it to lift off.

18:30
Polt counterattacks into TOP's natural. Looks like another base trade. Polt's natural is still up with 2 Tanks defending it though.
lalala
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#2447
Wow, this game is so bad compared to the last series, I really dont see any of these two taking out MMA as long as MMA plays at 80% of what he did today
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#2448
Polt wins.

Two more, Polt.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
June 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#2449
Polt!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#2450
Here's a polt :
Poll: Recommend Polt vs TOP game 1 ?

If you have time (27)
 
54%

Yes (18)
 
36%

No (5)
 
10%

50 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Polt vs TOP game 1 ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

bobwhiz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States725 Posts
June 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#2451
Top showed resilience!
Signatures are simply a cover for having no personality. -Kiante
Dave.
Profile Joined August 2010
Ireland272 Posts
June 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#2452
Polt is a sicko
#1 Ryung, Hasuobs, Machine, and Socke fan!
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#2453
GG from TOP!
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
June 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#2454
Great decision by Polt to counter attack.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
June 13 2011 11:19 GMT
#2455
On June 13 2011 20:18 eggs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 20:16 akalarry wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:15 eggs wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:11 eggs wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:09 Witten wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:02 eggs wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:00 Happy Frog wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS?


....

Do you watch the games or just read the results


well i see Polt vs TOP for the final spot
i think my point stands


Wow trolling hard. If you've watched any of Polt's games (other than the MAKA series lol) he's looked phenomenal. And TOP beat Nestea completely legitimately. Are you mad that the Heat lost the NBA finals too because they are better on paper?


Basketball is a 5 man team game. Heat had 2 good players. Dallas had 3.


uhhh,LeBron Wade and Bosh....thats 3.


lebron and wade. that's 2.


you mean wade and bosh.


no we're listing skilled players. so Lebron and Wade.


You know nothing about basketball OR starcraft. Why do you even post nonsense? Dallas only had 3 good players? Get the fuck out.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 13 2011 11:20 GMT
#2456
On June 13 2011 20:19 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 20:18 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:17 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:17 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:15 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:14 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:13 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:13 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:12 youngminii wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:11 youngminii wrote:
[quote]
6:30
Starport started for both players. TOP attacking Polt with his Marines and Hellions and with some nice control kills off all of Polt's army, TOP runs away with a single Marine and a Hellion left. TOP making a CC himself while Polt is making a Banshee.

8:00
Polt getting his expansion up and running while TOP trying to fend off Hellion harass and Banshee harass. Polt's Banshee has 12 kills and TOP has no Marines left, only 2 Tanks and 22 SCVs.

9:30
A Viking finally comes out for TOP and kills off the Banshee (there was no cloak) but now the SCV counts are 32 for Polt to 20 for TOP. TOP gets his expansion up and running.

10:30
TOP almost 30 supply behind Polt. Polt sends his army across the map about to attack TOP.

11:30
TOP didn't have siege so Polt was able to get his Tanks in range of TOP's OC. TOP's single Viking has air dominance so TOP repels Polt's Tanks.

13:00
Both players moving their map around the map, Polt already sieges up at TOP's natural and TOP moves back to stop this but takes too many hits from Polt's Tanks. Polt gets cleaned up but TOP loses a ton of SCVs.
48 SCVs for Polt against 24 for TOP.

15:00
TOP trying to drop only 4 Marines but Polt has a Marine that scouts it. Polt then tries to intercept the drop with his Marines but misses it. The 4 Marines can't do anything though so TOP gets repelled. TOP drops Polt's newly established 3rd though and makes him lift his OC for a few seconds.

16:00
TOP tries to drop 8 Marines into Polt's natural but gets sniped when trying to retreat. Both players moving their armies and are about to collide in the middle of the map.

17:30
Top moves in to Polt's army and takes out all of Polt's tanks. TOP advances into Polt's 3rd and forces it to lift off.

18:30
Polt counterattacks into TOP's natural. Looks like another base trade. Polt's natural is still up with 2 Tanks defending it though.

19:00
TOP's attack gets pushed back and Polt moves into TOP's main with his Marines. TOP gg's.
lalala
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
June 13 2011 11:20 GMT
#2457
On June 13 2011 20:16 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 20:15 eggs wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:11 eggs wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:09 Witten wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:02 eggs wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:00 Happy Frog wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS?


....

Do you watch the games or just read the results


well i see Polt vs TOP for the final spot
i think my point stands


Wow trolling hard. If you've watched any of Polt's games (other than the MAKA series lol) he's looked phenomenal. And TOP beat Nestea completely legitimately. Are you mad that the Heat lost the NBA finals too because they are better on paper?


Basketball is a 5 man team game. Heat had 2 good players. Dallas had 3.


uhhh,LeBron Wade and Bosh....thats 3.


lebron and wade. that's 2.


you mean wade and bosh.


Let's rank the 6 players being annoyingly argued about Off-topic.

Lebron
Dwayne Wade
Dirk Nowitski
Chris Bosh
Jason Terry
Jason Kidd
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haruk
Profile Joined November 2010
216 Posts
June 13 2011 11:20 GMT
#2458
On June 13 2011 20:15 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 20:07 Tachion wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:04 TheKefka wrote:
On June 13 2011 20:00 eggs wrote:
Nestea gone, now MKP.
when will SC2 be a skill-based RTS?


Its funny to me people consider MKP in the rank of Nestea.
Maybe I'm blind but i don't really see what all this fuss around MKP is about.
MKP is good at timing attacks,base trades and doing gimmicky builds.
I could name at least 5 terrans that are better imo.

He basically invented, or at least popularized marine splitting, akin to how July popularized Muta stacking in SC1. He's still going to be getting credit for revolutionizing that part of the game even in 10 years.


He may have done it first in a GSL match but i really doubt he was the one that "invented marine splits".He made it look cool (against Kyrex was it?) because he made a apsurd amount of marines against banelings and people were caught off guard by that.
Its really only stylistic and more of a "brand thing" that made him famous,but people figured him out and when he tried to go more diverse builds he got owned.
I'm not saying hes a bad played but he gets too much credit for his play.
And hes no where near July(even tho i know that wasn't your point)


MKP is good. At this point anybody who still refuses to believe that is just riding the bandwagon of being anti-"whoever is flavor of the month." Even haters who say they don't like him or his play have long since agreed that though they want to see him go down, he is good.

That said, gogogogo Polt!
skullhoof
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (North)835 Posts
June 13 2011 11:20 GMT
#2459
Polt was right about Jinro's luck.
Polt was right about luck
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 13 2011 11:20 GMT
#2460
On June 13 2011 20:19 Fubi wrote:
Wow, this game is so bad compared to the last series, I really dont see any of these two taking out MMA as long as MMA plays at 80% of what he did today


Polt or TOP could take out MMA.

It wasn't like neither MKP or MMA didn't make mistakes today either.
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