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MeatlessTaco
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States302 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 03:39:19
June 07 2011 03:34 GMT
#721
Step 1: Accept new responsibilities
Step 2: Inform new employer of old responsibilities and explain you don't like walking out on you commitments. Add that these commitments only take a couple hours a week and are a one-time thing only.

Step 3a: Employer makes concessions for you
Step 4a: You don't look like an asshole.

Step 3b: Employer doesn't make concessions for you
Step 4b: Inform those affected of your dilemma and ask for understanding.
Step 5b: You don't look like an asshole.

Option A happens 90% of the time if you can state what dates and time you will be unavailable. Most people aren't actually assholes if you deal with them with respect. Respect involves valuing other peoples' time, not just your own.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
June 07 2011 03:50 GMT
#722
ffs you dont make the emperor wait for YOU PAINUSER
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
June 07 2011 03:53 GMT
#723
Very disappointing PainUser.. the guy who makes eSports BIG and PU works for IGN doing commentary?? He relies on eSport getting bigger, yet he dissed the man who made it big.. now that is so badd..
zor.au
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia270 Posts
June 07 2011 03:54 GMT
#724
keep painuser's deposit
wow
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
June 07 2011 06:09 GMT
#725
On June 07 2011 12:34 MeatlessTaco wrote:
Step 1: Accept new responsibilities
Step 2: Inform new employer of old responsibilities and explain you don't like walking out on you commitments. Add that these commitments only take a couple hours a week and are a one-time thing only.

Step 3a: Employer makes concessions for you
Step 4a: You don't look like an asshole.

Step 3b: Employer doesn't make concessions for you
Step 4b: Inform those affected of your dilemma and ask for understanding.
Step 5b: You don't look like an asshole.

Option A happens 90% of the time if you can state what dates and time you will be unavailable. Most people aren't actually assholes if you deal with them with respect. Respect involves valuing other peoples' time, not just your own.

Exactly. I can't imagine IGN would ever tell him he can't play his matches at work. I mean they don't have a problem with him doing ITG while he's at work.

It's going to take what... an hour a week? Just like ITG.
chaopow
Profile Joined March 2011
United States556 Posts
June 07 2011 06:15 GMT
#726
Even if you do go winless, its much better to atleast play the games and lose all of them, rather then quitting, bming by not notifying the league, and making a player wait for the match to occur. Painuser....I'm disappointed.
Soowoo AD.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
June 07 2011 06:22 GMT
#727
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1597_PainUser/games

Instead of quitting the NASL, this guy needs to quit SC2 period.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 06:34:55
June 07 2011 06:34 GMT
#728
On June 07 2011 15:22 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1597_PainUser/games

Instead of quitting the NASL, this guy needs to quit SC2 period.


Lost to everyone but managed to wipe the floor with Incontrol
Definitely did not hear about this while the big man was casting the NASL.... <wink wink>

While Painuser deserves the nerd rage directed at him, whats up with the stupid comments on boycotting IPL? What did IPL do to you?

Weirdos.
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
June 07 2011 06:43 GMT
#729
I'm definitely not going to boycott IPL 2, but I don't think I'll cry very much if Painuser gets "released"...

Even if it were not the Emperor we're talking about, even if it were just a random bronze player he had an appointment with, this is extremely unprofessional and reflects extremely poorly on Painuser as a human being.
Teim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia373 Posts
June 07 2011 06:53 GMT
#730
Man, even as a lowly Platinum player, I would give a lot to play a Bo3 against Boxer. Can't understand the reason to avoid the games. I mean, a Bo3 isn't going to take more than an hour a week of your time. :/
A duck is a duck!
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 07 2011 07:08 GMT
#731
I would just be so excited for a chance to play a BO3 with boxer... I wouldn't care if I was 0-8 or w/e.
bellhop
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States165 Posts
June 07 2011 07:29 GMT
#732
On June 07 2011 10:16 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
If he does this again next week to Zenio I'm boycotting IPL. Without Boxer, PainUser wouldn't even have a gig at IGN.


I wouldn't go so far as to boycott, but I highly doubt I'll watch anything PainUser commentates for a long while.
Ceci n'est pas une disloqueur.
EricCartman
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada306 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 07:47:22
June 07 2011 07:38 GMT
#733
Way to be a turd painuser. give up the game and do something else u honorless fck
Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
June 07 2011 08:18 GMT
#734
It's just so hard to believe that NASL have tried to contact PU for three weeks without any response? Have they tried his cell, asking him on Bnet and Skype/mail, and he ignored all this?
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 09:33:43
June 07 2011 09:09 GMT
#735
On June 06 2011 22:53 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 21:21 sleepingdog wrote:
On June 06 2011 21:13 JustPassingBy wrote:
On June 06 2011 21:11 sleepingdog wrote:
On June 06 2011 21:08 Markwerf wrote:
The problems of a long individual competition are starting to show. Some players have practically nothing to play for anymore and they either simply drop or don't put in any effort anymore. As a result some players are getting free wins which influences the top standings.


All of this can be solved really easily. Make the players themselves make a huge deposit, that they will get back unless they don't show up without good reason.

Works in "real life" too...in fact, stipulating that someone has to pay huge sums in case of breach of contract is everyday's business. Don't like it? Don't participate.



This with Painuser is probably a one-time-only occurence.
Any player in a team who pulls of something like this, will definitely be kicked out of his team for doing that and Grubby would probably get into trouble with his sponsors.


I have to admit that I didn't follow NASL that closely, but I thought there were numerous walkovers without any reason?

What I meant is, even notifying NASL that you can't play shouldn't be acceptable - only things that should matter are dying/dead relatives, you yourself being sick etc. Basicly the stuff that also would excuse you from showing up to work.


I think all the walk-overs had goods excuses so far.

Like White-Ra had to forfeit his match because the Dreamhack didn't let him play. (it happened after Dreamhack and they wouldn't give him a computer to play on) That was against July and he had to wait all-night as well. Not very pleasant, he could've tried to notify the NASL and July, but still acceptable.

More like Dreamhack afterparty ^^

On June 07 2011 06:05 Weird wrote:
Looking at the latest MLG the competition just got that much harder, IGN luckily (lol) has banned Koreans from their tourneys so far, so they're still safe for now, but the fans demand games of the highest level, so I don't think they can hold off forever before letting them play.

IGN took a big gamble with season 2. Hopefully it will turn out good. No invites. Only top 3 from Season 3 and people who qualified through 4 qualifiers... People who got skill got in (big names with a decline in their skill didnt). Its either hit or miss with the viewers... But remember TSL 3 finals.

But this is NASL thread so back to topic.
Painuser become a blue collar worker. Asked NASL if he can change the hours of his matches. Got a big negative. Since he cant play from work he just didnt show. Simple as that.
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
June 07 2011 09:47 GMT
#736
On June 07 2011 05:08 On_Slaught wrote:

If Painuser isn't called out on Inside the game, and if I don't like his answer, I won't watch the show anymore. Simple as that.


he's gonna make up some bullshit marginally believable excuse and people will take it because they don't really care or they jsut liek the guy. and they should care if they want esports to become a reality (no, all this growth we've got atm is a bubble, and there's miles and miles to go before esports becomes a reality)

no matter what happened to him, even if he was sick, doing this is impardonably immature and unprofessional. check grubby out, he didn't win anything, and he's still playing all his matches, that's what a professional gamer looks like.

people like him need to be trimmed out from any quality in esports quickly if things are to evolve into something serious. or we can keep supporting and accepting this kind of behavior when it occurs on grounds of likeability or disinterest and get stuck in the limbo of niche community plagued by lack of professionalism.

also, people who do place blame for this on the league proper have a point. NASL invited this man over many more dedicated and professional gamers to either meet their super rushed deadlines, or because he was a pretty recognizable figure in the US, or both, and all of these options are less than flattering to a league with pretentions of professionalism.

and in what sport or other starcraft league or tournament does a no-show at the start time of the match not get automatically dq and keeps the other competitor waiting for hours, that's inexcusable.

this move by PU, nasl on the whole being a moderate failure, and the fact that koreans destroyed MLG are all symptoms of the western community still taking esports as lightly as if it's supposed to still be the niche community of fans playing and casting each other casually as in bw, or playing the 5 tournaments per year of wc3, and running the joyride of sponsorships that the fans, the viewership at home, are bringing in since sc2's launch.

if people don't start practicing really seriously, organizing things properly with strong timetables and lines of communication, working on their formats to allow growth of new talent, and finding ways to punish this type of behavior displayed by PU very harshly, the bubble will burst eventually and we'll never, or significantly later, get esports to be where we dream it can be.
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
June 07 2011 09:51 GMT
#737
I predicted PainUser would at least show for Boxer. Boy I was wrong. Some people would pay to play a match with Boxer.
Someone call down the Thunder?
human_ko
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation676 Posts
June 07 2011 09:55 GMT
#738
cloud and tlo played 2v1 vs sen and lost? according to the results on this board
WOrd, yo.
hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 09:56:46
June 07 2011 09:55 GMT
#739
Come on, even though you're completely out of contention the least you can do is play a Bo3. We're talking like 1-2 hours of your time. Doesn't even show for the Emperor himself. Really bm by PainUser.
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
June 07 2011 10:33 GMT
#740
Painuser is a bad player, another one of the morons who need to quit pretending they are SC2 pros and do something else.
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