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MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 23:35:26
June 06 2011 23:35 GMT
#701
All i want to say is, you don't BM Boxer.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
June 06 2011 23:52 GMT
#702
Somebody should at least let BoxeR know how much hardcore support he has... People are seething with rage over this PainUser ordeal and the best part is that most of the rage is specifically geared towards defending THE EMPEROR. I love it. He really is an emperor, he has a following that just might actually kill and pillage in his name it seems.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 23:56:15
June 06 2011 23:55 GMT
#703
On June 07 2011 06:05 Weird wrote:
Here's what has essentially happened with Painuser, he turned a lukewarm career in progaming into a paid gig casting for IGN. Look at the disintegration of Lazarus Gaming, that was kind of a joke in the first place, but what options did he have? Let's take a look:

1. Get on a new team, which involves showing this new team that you're worth it, which involves a lot of practice and hard work, all the while trying to support yourself by whatever means necessary (not fun)

2. Jump aboard the IGN money train and cast games/become a gaming "personality" (Tasteless, Artosis, Incontrol) which by no means is easy, but I think that we can all agree that playing at a high level is much harder to do.

3. Middle of the road, keep playing but start casting as well, probably not possible imo with the IGN gig, not enough time to really play well.

So which would you pick? Honestly... And yes he did this in the worst way possible by just giving NASL the cold shoulder, that was just flat out wrong, and he should be called out for it. Looking at the latest MLG the competition just got that much harder, IGN luckily (lol) has banned Koreans from their tourneys so far, so they're still safe for now, but the fans demand games of the highest level, so I don't think they can hold off forever before letting them play.


Or option 4, essentially option 2, but at least finish out playing his games in NASL, a huge tournament that gave PainUser a spot that so many people would've loved to have.

Or option 5, also option 2, but at least inform NASL about dropping out and apologize to the fans about it.
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
June 06 2011 23:56 GMT
#704
I don't get this. what did he do to Boxer?
You know what I'm talking about
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 00:15:07
June 07 2011 00:14 GMT
#705
I feel a little bad that so many people are busting PainUser's balls right now (myself included) but then again, he's getting exactly the response he deserves.

When you behave professionally in a such way where you hide your intentions, or don't even attempt to communicate, this is exactly what happens. You leave everyone else around to speculate, and almost 90% of the time they are going to assume the worst.

And I'm sure tomorrow we'll hear some PainUser or IdrA or another SC 'Pro' complain about 'the haters' or 'idiots' on TL, but you reap what you sow. This is not a phenomenon exclusive to TL, this is unfortunately how 'the real world' works. If you don't have the courage, courtesy or decency to speak for yourself, you're forcing other people to speak for you. And you're not going to like the results.

The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
June 07 2011 00:26 GMT
#706
Dick move Painuser.
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
June 07 2011 00:28 GMT
#707
On June 07 2011 06:33 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 06:05 Weird wrote:
Here's what has essentially happened with Painuser, he turned a lukewarm career in progaming into a paid gig casting for IGN. Look at the disintegration of Lazarus Gaming, that was kind of a joke in the first place, but what options did he have? Let's take a look:

1. Get on a new team, which involves showing this new team that you're worth it, which involves a lot of practice and hard work, all the while trying to support yourself by whatever means necessary (not fun)

2. Jump aboard the IGN money train and cast games/become a gaming "personality" (Tasteless, Artosis, Incontrol) which by no means is easy, but I think that we can all agree that playing at a high level is much harder to do.

3. Middle of the road, keep playing but start casting as well, probably not possible imo with the IGN gig, not enough time to really play well.

So which would you pick? Honestly... And yes he did this in the worst way possible by just giving NASL the cold shoulder, that was just flat out wrong, and he should be called out for it. Looking at the latest MLG the competition just got that much harder, IGN luckily (lol) has banned Koreans from their tourneys so far, so they're still safe for now, but the fans demand games of the highest level, so I don't think they can hold off forever before letting them play.


Think of it like Lebron James's move to Miami. It was a dick move, sure, but understandable. The method of going through with the decision (Lebron's stupid 1 hour special, PainUser just dodging NASL) is what fuels such vitriol.


cmon buddy, how can you compare the two? Lebron did not break any rules, did not breach any contract, what he did was 100% okay in the business sense.
in a state of trance
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 07 2011 00:44 GMT
#708
On June 07 2011 09:28 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 06:33 Curu wrote:
On June 07 2011 06:05 Weird wrote:
Here's what has essentially happened with Painuser, he turned a lukewarm career in progaming into a paid gig casting for IGN. Look at the disintegration of Lazarus Gaming, that was kind of a joke in the first place, but what options did he have? Let's take a look:

1. Get on a new team, which involves showing this new team that you're worth it, which involves a lot of practice and hard work, all the while trying to support yourself by whatever means necessary (not fun)

2. Jump aboard the IGN money train and cast games/become a gaming "personality" (Tasteless, Artosis, Incontrol) which by no means is easy, but I think that we can all agree that playing at a high level is much harder to do.

3. Middle of the road, keep playing but start casting as well, probably not possible imo with the IGN gig, not enough time to really play well.

So which would you pick? Honestly... And yes he did this in the worst way possible by just giving NASL the cold shoulder, that was just flat out wrong, and he should be called out for it. Looking at the latest MLG the competition just got that much harder, IGN luckily (lol) has banned Koreans from their tourneys so far, so they're still safe for now, but the fans demand games of the highest level, so I don't think they can hold off forever before letting them play.


Think of it like Lebron James's move to Miami. It was a dick move, sure, but understandable. The method of going through with the decision (Lebron's stupid 1 hour special, PainUser just dodging NASL) is what fuels such vitriol.


cmon buddy, how can you compare the two? Lebron did not break any rules, did not breach any contract, what he did was 100% okay in the business sense.


Professionalism comes to mind, people like to forget how Lebron walked out, aka quit on them during a playoff series, PainUser for the last 3 weeks has left his opponents out to dry with some in entirely different timezones. If the player wants to quit, and accept the consequences, that's fine, but don't make it more of a problem than it already is.

Like I honestly don't wish for him to be involved with the professional scene in any capacity because he clearly doesn't respect it, and players being interviewed by him should just kindly turn it down. You don't get to pick and choose your moments.
Get it by your hands...
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
June 07 2011 00:45 GMT
#709
On June 07 2011 06:10 nvs. wrote:
I will be trying my best to avoid PainUser related projects in the future. Simple as that.

I can totally understand this sentiment. In fact, PainUser might be thinking that he is a caster now, but this move makes his casting career very much in doubt, IMO. Nobody, neither organizers, nor fans will forget.

In fact, IPL should not recruit him.
thesundowners
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada40 Posts
June 07 2011 00:56 GMT
#710
On June 07 2011 08:56 namedplayer wrote:
I don't get this. what did he do to Boxer?


Boxer had no idea painuser wasn't going to show up, he has to wake up really early in the morning to play these matches
bang bang, bang yr head
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
June 07 2011 01:07 GMT
#711
On June 07 2011 08:55 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 06:05 Weird wrote:
Here's what has essentially happened with Painuser, he turned a lukewarm career in progaming into a paid gig casting for IGN. Look at the disintegration of Lazarus Gaming, that was kind of a joke in the first place, but what options did he have? Let's take a look:

1. Get on a new team, which involves showing this new team that you're worth it, which involves a lot of practice and hard work, all the while trying to support yourself by whatever means necessary (not fun)

2. Jump aboard the IGN money train and cast games/become a gaming "personality" (Tasteless, Artosis, Incontrol) which by no means is easy, but I think that we can all agree that playing at a high level is much harder to do.

3. Middle of the road, keep playing but start casting as well, probably not possible imo with the IGN gig, not enough time to really play well.

So which would you pick? Honestly... And yes he did this in the worst way possible by just giving NASL the cold shoulder, that was just flat out wrong, and he should be called out for it. Looking at the latest MLG the competition just got that much harder, IGN luckily (lol) has banned Koreans from their tourneys so far, so they're still safe for now, but the fans demand games of the highest level, so I don't think they can hold off forever before letting them play.


Or option 4, essentially option 2, but at least finish out playing his games in NASL, a huge tournament that gave PainUser a spot that so many people would've loved to have.

Or option 5, also option 2, but at least inform NASL about dropping out and apologize to the fans about it.


Exactly, it's not like option 4 is hard for him to do either. Just show up once a week for 4 weeks and play 2 games of starcraft. He's been a semi-pro/pro for long enough that even without practice he's not going to totally fall apart. And even if he did, the public will rib him a bit and forget soon.

The path he is taking now, the public will not forget for a while.

Also, doesn't he forfeit $50 every time he gives a WO? Again, 2 games of starcraft is max 1-2 hours of time.

I really hope he has a side to this, because it doesn't really make sense from any perspective.
PSA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States243 Posts
June 07 2011 01:10 GMT
#712
I wonder how this will play out on ITG. I wouldn't imagine that Inc would be very happy with painsuser pulling this shit and messing with Inc's baby.
Huge fan of EG! Go IdrA, Huk, Puma, and all others. GO ASU SUN DEVILS!
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 01:16:48
June 07 2011 01:16 GMT
#713
If he does this again next week to Zenio I'm boycotting IPL. Without Boxer, PainUser wouldn't even have a gig at IGN.
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
June 07 2011 01:22 GMT
#714
WTF you do not bm boxer. IGN should not hire this pathetic quitter and sad excuse of a gamer/caster.
pathy
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Taiwan619 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 01:29:49
June 07 2011 01:27 GMT
#715
edit: derpsherp
Graphicscolosi suck
Alokiya
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States648 Posts
June 07 2011 01:36 GMT
#716
Disappointing but understandable to a degree by Painuser, but I wonder how much hate he'd be getting if he had done this to anyone else besides Boxer. Sucks he won't be playing anymore, but I wish him the best of luck with IGN.
C'mon my guppies, swim up my stream! - Day[9]
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
June 07 2011 01:44 GMT
#717
Holy check, did sen really lose 2-1..does this mean idra is in top 2 now?
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
June 07 2011 01:55 GMT
#718
Well, if Painloser casts for IGN, no one will like him because of this.
He's a terrible player, he didn't have to be BM and skip out on BoxeR himself.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 07 2011 01:56 GMT
#719
Man. I have a hard time believing Painuser, who I presumed understood the weight of reputation, walked out on a match like that. A heads up to BoxeR and it all would have been fine, no controversy, no problems
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 03:18:01
June 07 2011 03:17 GMT
#720
Sen < Xel'naga Caverns > Cloud
Sen < The Shattered Temple > TLO

In the results tag ^__^
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
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