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nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 06 2011 21:10 GMT
#681
I will be trying my best to avoid PainUser related projects in the future. Simple as that.
NeonPeon
Profile Joined February 2011
93 Posts
June 06 2011 21:16 GMT
#682
On June 07 2011 05:23 onmach wrote:
It is a pretty dick thing for painuser to do, but out of what, 80 players, only one is doing this? The tourney is so long I'm surprised it isn't happening more.


Several players have missed games they shouldn't have, but Painuser is by far the worst of them.

It's really sad that a few scenarios are being determined or at the least influenced by no show walkovers. This hurts the competition. It's down to a lack of professionalism.

That said, seeing what has happened, NASL will need to make adjustments to allow for a lack of professionalism with scheduling. There are several players that haven't taken this competition seriously enough as far as I'm concerned, including some surprising, high profile names. This shows a lot of disrespect to all their fellow competitors. Any player can accept missing out on spots/qualification etc. due to their own play, but due to someone else not bothering to schedule a game, or worse yet just ignoring one? That's just unacceptable.

I know each and every player would have an excuse as to why they couldn't make it, but it shouldn't be unexpected, and it has been.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
June 06 2011 21:33 GMT
#683
On June 07 2011 06:05 Weird wrote:
Here's what has essentially happened with Painuser, he turned a lukewarm career in progaming into a paid gig casting for IGN. Look at the disintegration of Lazarus Gaming, that was kind of a joke in the first place, but what options did he have? Let's take a look:

1. Get on a new team, which involves showing this new team that you're worth it, which involves a lot of practice and hard work, all the while trying to support yourself by whatever means necessary (not fun)

2. Jump aboard the IGN money train and cast games/become a gaming "personality" (Tasteless, Artosis, Incontrol) which by no means is easy, but I think that we can all agree that playing at a high level is much harder to do.

3. Middle of the road, keep playing but start casting as well, probably not possible imo with the IGN gig, not enough time to really play well.

So which would you pick? Honestly... And yes he did this in the worst way possible by just giving NASL the cold shoulder, that was just flat out wrong, and he should be called out for it. Looking at the latest MLG the competition just got that much harder, IGN luckily (lol) has banned Koreans from their tourneys so far, so they're still safe for now, but the fans demand games of the highest level, so I don't think they can hold off forever before letting them play.


Think of it like Lebron James's move to Miami. It was a dick move, sure, but understandable. The method of going through with the decision (Lebron's stupid 1 hour special, PainUser just dodging NASL) is what fuels such vitriol.
wat
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
June 06 2011 21:44 GMT
#684
PainUser has to man up and say he is withdrawing if he doesn't feel like playing anymore. Major disrespect to his fellow competitors... don't know why anyone would want to have him cast their games if they know of this sort of behavior.
darlhet
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy548 Posts
June 06 2011 21:51 GMT
#685
he's to hated to really become a personality honestly, and i mean he still could have found the time to play a couple of games every week, even if he wasnt showing his best he was still showing something for fuck sake
"i feel like im wasting your time" qxc to whitera after getting crushed 0-4
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 06 2011 22:02 GMT
#686
Well, we'll have to see with the viewer numbers of the IGN proleague regarding how serious people are with their threats.
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
June 06 2011 22:09 GMT
#687
Wow. He BM'd Boxer.

IMHO Painuser should be banned from SC2 tournaments for a while.

You do NOT BM your opponent by not even letting him know you've left, ESPECIALLY if he's halfway around the world, in a completely different timezone, waiting for you, and after having prepared so damn much.

You do NOT BM the tournament, because you agreed to play there and should at least have the decency to let them know, after ALL the trouble they had organizing all that crap.

And lastly, and most importantly...

YOU DO NOT BM BOXER. NEVER. HE CREATED ESPORTS. Painuser might never have been able to compete in such a big and important SC2 tournament had Boxer never existed and Esports never took off.

I'm amazed at the gall of this fool. I don't care about how good he is, this is just downright disrespectful to EVERYONE, and how the f***, how dare he stand up BOXER waiting for HIM.
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
June 06 2011 22:33 GMT
#688
ridiculous to just quit on a tournament. could have had another deserving player in his place. also screws up seeding because everyone left he faces gets WO. I don't think grubby has missed a game and he is still winless. you keep playing, even if your doing bad.
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 22:48:28
June 06 2011 22:47 GMT
#689
They should just call the remainder of his games WO?

Massive disrespect, I'll do my best to avoid him in the future.
Mr. Nefarious
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 23:05:38
June 06 2011 23:03 GMT
#690
So on top of just being terrible PainUser is also a quitter and has BM'd Boxer? PainUser should be banned from TL and the TL community should put some pressure on the IPL to cancel their casting contract with him. What a disgrace.

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Sixes
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1123 Posts
June 06 2011 23:05 GMT
#691
On June 07 2011 05:35 BoilingHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 05:11 WindCalibur wrote:
I believe the TLO thing was a typo.

No, it's a joke. ClouD used a build that was popularized and associated with TLO, the 6 rax all-in.


Ah thanks for explaining that, was a little confusing lol.
thragar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada450 Posts
June 06 2011 23:06 GMT
#692
Seriously, how hard is it to press "reply" and type "yo dawg, I quit." Shorter than the time it takes for me to type this post.
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
June 06 2011 23:10 GMT
#693
if he would just notify and explain his situation to NASL then he wouldn't have gotten all this flak, maybe they could even find someone who is willing to take his spot
How do you mine minerals?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 06 2011 23:15 GMT
#694
Such a fucking disgrace.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 23:21:18
June 06 2011 23:19 GMT
#695
On June 06 2011 23:00 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 22:56 Shackadeemus wrote:
"Boxer Obtains a 2-0 W.O. Painuser Gives up on NASL and BM's not even notifying NASL of this NASL hints at "this will not be forgotten" Boxer had to stay up for the entire day it will be noted because painuser didn't just notify NASL that he was quiting NASL"

I can't understand this, it's such bad grammar and there's no punctuation!

Sure but you got the gist of it right? If you didn't, here's a summary.

-BoxeR gets 2-0 W.O over Painuser.
-Painuser forfeits his place in NASL without even officially notifying them. (I guess an automatic forfeit since they've had no contact?)
-NASL hints (I assume by the casters) that this will affect his possible future NASL participations.
-BoxeR had to stay up through the night because of Painuser not notifying him or NASL of his absence. (arguably the worst transgression! :S)


last week on inside the game he announced he was retiring from competitive play. im sure he doesnt care that the nasl wont let him compete anymore


On June 07 2011 05:47 Wesso wrote:


PainUser.. worst behavior I have seen yet in SC2 (at least that I remember)


clearly youve never seen someone play against combat ex
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
June 06 2011 23:22 GMT
#696
i don't wish ill on players as long as they do their best, but cmon man, how can you not notify anyone when you know your opponent is staying up in the middle of the night to play you. That's just a douche move.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Kqpro
Profile Joined September 2010
United States62 Posts
June 06 2011 23:23 GMT
#697
painuser is a lil bi
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 06 2011 23:24 GMT
#698
what a dick, dares to anger the emperor but srsly thats just bm by him not only to boxer but also to all the other players that had to wait for him ..

its a pity this guy's going to cast the ipl...
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 23:27:18
June 06 2011 23:27 GMT
#699
Wow, Painuser being the ultimate douchebag to.... Boxer? Unbelievable.

He really doesn't deserve any respect or acknowledgement from the community whatsoever, and any web shows should drop him immediately. Unprofessionalism at its worst.
secret - never again
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 23:34:45
June 06 2011 23:33 GMT
#700
On June 07 2011 08:03 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
So on top of just being terrible PainUser is also a quitter and has BM'd Boxer? PainUser should be banned from TL and the TL community should put some pressure on the IPL to cancel their casting contract with him. What a disgrace.



Whole-heartedly agree. Painuser is acting like a 12 year-old child. It's absolutely pathetic. People/sponsors should set an example for other would-be unprofessional acts and give this guy a harsh lesson.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
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