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On June 08 2011 00:19 Cub wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 23:25 Beyonder wrote:On June 07 2011 17:18 Quakie wrote:
It's just so hard to believe that NASL have tried to contact PU for three weeks without any response? Have they tried his cell, asking him on Bnet and Skype/mail, and he ignored all this? Yep, especially since he was at MLG columbus. Seems something very strange here.. wondering what Painuser has to say about this. I could of sworn PainUser said something on Inside the Game about this but I could be wrong. I'm 80% sure he said something though. Still pretty upsetting even if your going to lose your in a production gotta play!
Well, something in that trend, he announced that it was difficult to maintain a fulltime job and playing in the NASL, with the NASL unwilling to reschedule.
http://blip.tv/insidethegame/inside-the-game-e05-5-31-2011-5228803
Around 4:30. So, he didn't explicitly state that he wouldn't play anymore, but you can read between the lines he basically has given up. So it's pretty unfair to NASL the way PU has handled this.
[edit] Incontrol joined later, because he had to cast NASL I think. I would've loved to hear his reaction. [/edit]
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So have they just given up on updating the standings and records? It's been over a week.
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lol how dare he go around walking around MLG .. incontrol and gretop should just go up to him and smack him in the face 
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I don't get how inc, gretorp, and painuser were all at MLG at the same time, yet they still had this communication problem.
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On June 08 2011 02:17 Zaqwert wrote:
So have they just given up on updating the standings and records? It's been over a week.
Too busy throwing players under the bus for that
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its updated now, thank god
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On June 08 2011 02:25 Radical wrote:
I don't get how inc, gretorp, and painuser were all at MLG at the same time, yet they still had this communication problem.
Probably because Incontrol and Gretorp are just the announcers and are likely in no way involved with this aspect of the league. I'm sure all the players in the league are fully aware of the people to get in touch with if they are having issues though.
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The IdrA/Drewbie vod as well as the Axslav / SLush vod on the nasl.tv site are broken. -_- Two of the games I've really wanted to watch...
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On June 08 2011 03:12 Corrupted wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 02:25 Radical wrote:
I don't get how inc, gretorp, and painuser were all at MLG at the same time, yet they still had this communication problem. Probably because Incontrol and Gretorp are just the announcers and are likely in no way involved with this aspect of the league. I'm sure all the players in the league are fully aware of the people to get in touch with if they are having issues though.
I'm assuming that's the reason as well, it's just kind of odd.
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On June 08 2011 02:42 floor exercise wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 02:17 Zaqwert wrote:
So have they just given up on updating the standings and records? It's been over a week. Too busy throwing players under the bus for that
You blame the NASL for lack of professionalism from players? Amazing.
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NeonPeon ignore him. He literally hates on everything the NASL does... not really a rational person in regard to the NASL.
PainUser has dropped from the NASL. I spoke with him last week @ ITG. I told him as well that it would have been much better had he just told us.. essentially what I said on air. He understands and we are all good moving forward. No real need to keep discussing this. PainUser is a good guy and he didn't do anything malicious.. just didn't handle it optimally.
Scores were being updated last night (bad on our end) so they should be done soon.
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On June 08 2011 03:45 NeonPeon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 02:42 floor exercise wrote:On June 08 2011 02:17 Zaqwert wrote:
So have they just given up on updating the standings and records? It's been over a week. Too busy throwing players under the bus for that You blame the NASL for lack of professionalism from players? Amazing.
No, I blame them for pretending like Boxer was still playing Painuser and claiming that they never spoke to him when Inc just admitted they did. They did this at the expense of Painuser's character (look at the page after page of anger it generated) so that people would still tune in to see Boxer when they could have very easily announced it ahead of time. How's that for professionalism?
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On June 08 2011 04:34 floor exercise wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 03:45 NeonPeon wrote:On June 08 2011 02:42 floor exercise wrote:On June 08 2011 02:17 Zaqwert wrote:
So have they just given up on updating the standings and records? It's been over a week. Too busy throwing players under the bus for that You blame the NASL for lack of professionalism from players? Amazing. No, I blame them for pretending like Boxer was still playing Painuser and claiming that they never spoke to him when Inc just admitted they did. They did this at the expense of Painuser's character (look at the page after page of anger it generated) so that people would still tune in to see Boxer when they could have very easily announced it ahead of time. How's that for professionalism?
It could be that because of MLG, PainUser and Boxer were scheduled to play before Tuesday, and PainUser did no-show on Boxer without telling anyone. Then on Tuesday Inc and PU cleared things up.
The timeline is actually pretty important in terms of where the public will put blame, and it'd be nice to get clarification. Right now the default general belief seems to be what I wrote above.
Still, NASL should have said something about it on stream Sunday, as they had a few days to edit.
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On June 08 2011 04:03 iNcontroL wrote:
NeonPeon ignore him. He literally hates on everything the NASL does... not really a rational person in regard to the NASL.
PainUser has dropped from the NASL. I spoke with him last week @ ITG. I told him as well that it would have been much better had he just told us.. essentially what I said on air. He understands and we are all good moving forward. No real need to keep discussing this. PainUser is a good guy and he didn't do anything malicious.. just didn't handle it optimally.
Scores were being updated last night (bad on our end) so they should be done soon.
Thanks for giving us the situation update! Quick question if you have time to answer. How is the NASL going to correct this situation from happening in the future (season 2)? i.e. is the NASL going to raise the deposit amount for players or impose a penalty fee or is that kinda too far off in the future to worry about until next season? Anyway thanks for letting us know again keep of the good work at NASL!
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Painuser is typical of the professional foreigner mentality - they have this exaggerated sense of entitlement and expect to be handed money and efame on a plate. The Koreans by comparison know that you only eat what you kill and this drives them to win, they don't feel they should be compensated in some tangible way for every game they play and simply enjoy the game for its own sake.
I just can't imagine a Korean player ever saying "I can't win any money from this tournemant anymore so I won't play".
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I wouldn't say Painuser's typical of the professional foreigner mentality, even if he's not the first to just drop out with barely a word.
Remember for MLG DC there was a 'CauthonLuck watch' and I think one for Masq? or maybe it was Silver. Anyways there have been lots of players who just plain disappeared as the SC2 scene started maturing.
Painuser's just did his a little more, uh, ungracefully than the rest.
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On June 08 2011 04:55 yoshi_yoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 04:34 floor exercise wrote:On June 08 2011 03:45 NeonPeon wrote:On June 08 2011 02:42 floor exercise wrote:On June 08 2011 02:17 Zaqwert wrote:
So have they just given up on updating the standings and records? It's been over a week. Too busy throwing players under the bus for that You blame the NASL for lack of professionalism from players? Amazing. No, I blame them for pretending like Boxer was still playing Painuser and claiming that they never spoke to him when Inc just admitted they did. They did this at the expense of Painuser's character (look at the page after page of anger it generated) so that people would still tune in to see Boxer when they could have very easily announced it ahead of time. How's that for professionalism? It could be that because of MLG, PainUser and Boxer were scheduled to play before Tuesday, and PainUser did no-show on Boxer without telling anyone. Then on Tuesday Inc and PU cleared things up. The timeline is actually pretty important in terms of where the public will put blame, and it'd be nice to get clarification. Right now the default general belief seems to be what I wrote above. Still, NASL should have said something about it on stream Sunday, as they had a few days to edit.
yeah nasl could've just said something...who even knows if he left boxer waiting at 3AM...
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lol sry, didnt mean to post anything  oh well Day 9-1 is on
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In OTHER NEWS, Moon just wrecked Fenix. GOGOGO MOON!
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Anyone making a Week 9 - Day 1 thread?
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