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Towni
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria144 Posts
June 06 2011 10:25 GMT
#28341
Am i too stupid? Where are the vods? pls help
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4642 Posts
June 06 2011 10:25 GMT
#28342
On June 06 2011 19:11 KingPaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 18:35 cordlc wrote:
On June 06 2011 16:54 FataLe wrote:
On June 06 2011 16:49 TAMinator wrote:
This is what happens when latency is not involved, koreans win.

Wouldn't go that far. A few of the foreigners had really close series with the koreans. They're ahead of us but to imply that lag is the deciding factor in inter-continental tournaments is pretty silly imo.

I just don't see how you can hold this position after yet another round of Korean dominance in a LAN setting.

IEM, all of Korea was at the top. This time they took top 3, with the other 2 Korean invites only getting knocked out by each other (July never dropped a set to a foreigner).

Meanwhile the Koreans play like crap (relatively) in online tournaments. It's not a coincidence.

Actually July dropped a set against both Sjow and Sheth.

A game, not set.
This neo violence, pure self defiance
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
June 06 2011 10:26 GMT
#28343
On June 06 2011 19:25 Towni wrote:
Am i too stupid? Where are the vods? pls help


Dunno if you stupid, but vod link is on front page. ^^
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Kala23
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany230 Posts
June 06 2011 10:27 GMT
#28344
Now that Koreans are attending all major offline events everywhere, the foreigners NEED to step it up. Idra for example was telling everyone how much more money u could make living outside of Korea compared to the GSL. Turns out u can do both.
Even if the Koreans have to struggle through the online part of NASL. During the Finals they might dominate again.
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
June 06 2011 10:29 GMT
#28345
On June 06 2011 19:11 KingPaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 18:35 cordlc wrote:
On June 06 2011 16:54 FataLe wrote:
On June 06 2011 16:49 TAMinator wrote:
This is what happens when latency is not involved, koreans win.

Wouldn't go that far. A few of the foreigners had really close series with the koreans. They're ahead of us but to imply that lag is the deciding factor in inter-continental tournaments is pretty silly imo.

I just don't see how you can hold this position after yet another round of Korean dominance in a LAN setting.

IEM, all of Korea was at the top. This time they took top 3, with the other 2 Korean invites only getting knocked out by each other (July never dropped a set to a foreigner).

Meanwhile the Koreans play like crap (relatively) in online tournaments. It's not a coincidence.

Actually July dropped a set against both Sjow and Sheth.


Set = series not individual games. So he never dropped a set.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 06 2011 10:30 GMT
#28346
On June 06 2011 18:24 stipe145 wrote:
I am European so I did not see MLG. What are the best series of day 1,2 and 3?


Losira/MMA
Losira/Naniwa
Losira/MC
MMA/July
Idra/MC (both games)
July/Sjow
Major/Incontrol

There were very few bad series, but those probably entertained me the most as far as I can remember.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 06 2011 10:31 GMT
#28347
On June 06 2011 19:11 KingPaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 18:35 cordlc wrote:
On June 06 2011 16:54 FataLe wrote:
On June 06 2011 16:49 TAMinator wrote:
This is what happens when latency is not involved, koreans win.

Wouldn't go that far. A few of the foreigners had really close series with the koreans. They're ahead of us but to imply that lag is the deciding factor in inter-continental tournaments is pretty silly imo.

I just don't see how you can hold this position after yet another round of Korean dominance in a LAN setting.

IEM, all of Korea was at the top. This time they took top 3, with the other 2 Korean invites only getting knocked out by each other (July never dropped a set to a foreigner).

Meanwhile the Koreans play like crap (relatively) in online tournaments. It's not a coincidence.

Actually July dropped a set against both Sjow and Sheth.


As others have said he lost a game not a set, and the Sjow game was to 2-port banshee...
Jzeeee
Profile Joined May 2011
4 Posts
June 06 2011 10:34 GMT
#28348
Anyone else noticed that Korean's only lost to other korean's during championship bracket? (Select doesn't count)
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 06 2011 10:36 GMT
#28349
On June 06 2011 19:34 Jzeeee wrote:
Anyone else noticed that Korean's only lost to other korean's during championship bracket? (Select doesn't count)



Yep, they basically proved what a lot of us have long thought, that without lag they are still a cut above. Not to the extent in Brood War, but the harder work and practice they put in is paying dividends.
FrozenFrog
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore133 Posts
June 06 2011 10:43 GMT
#28350
What happened with InControl and Major? Didnt catch that match or it wasnt streamed
d(-.-)b
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 06 2011 10:43 GMT
#28351
On June 06 2011 19:43 FrozenFrog wrote:
What happened with InControl and Major? Didnt catch that match or it wasnt streamed



Just good macro games. Major played really well.
Happy Frog
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia490 Posts
June 06 2011 10:49 GMT
#28352
Can someone explain the Naniwa dancing thing for me? Whatever happened has seemed to have gotten lost in the premature egrackulation shitstorm.




And congrats to MLG for such a great event!
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
June 06 2011 10:52 GMT
#28353
On June 06 2011 19:49 Happy Frog wrote:
Can someone explain the Naniwa dancing thing for me? Whatever happened has seemed to have gotten lost in the premature egrackulation shitstorm.




And congrats to MLG for such a great event!


Basically Naniwa 4 gated against MC going for a DT rush. Got his stalkers/zealots inside, was generally ripping MC but failed to scout the dark shrine (just barely missed it). So as MC is warping in a DT on a proxy pylon to go into his base and kill all his probes Naniwa made his zealots in MC's base dance before he actually had won. Not more than 20 seconds later DT's are ripping him to shreds.
Teoyaomqui
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden326 Posts
June 06 2011 10:52 GMT
#28354
Is there a link to the complete results somewhere, including consolation matches?
Velicia
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom32 Posts
June 06 2011 10:52 GMT
#28355
On June 06 2011 19:49 Happy Frog wrote:
Can someone explain the Naniwa dancing thing for me? Whatever happened has seemed to have gotten lost in the premature egrackulation shitstorm.




And congrats to MLG for such a great event!


Naniwa essentially 4gated MC, thinking he had a win in the bag, he prematurely danced his zealots in MC's base. If he'd literally moved those zealots a centimeter forward instead of dancing, he would have seen MC's just then finishing Dark Shrine. MC warps in DT's - gg.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 06 2011 10:53 GMT
#28356
On June 06 2011 19:30 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 18:24 stipe145 wrote:
I am European so I did not see MLG. What are the best series of day 1,2 and 3?


Losira/MMA
Losira/Naniwa
Losira/MC
MMA/July
Idra/MC (both games)
July/Sjow
Major/Incontrol

There were very few bad series, but those probably entertained me the most as far as I can remember.


You forgot MMA/Idra which is going to be a very talked about game for a while.

I highly recommend watching Game 1 in the overall finals of MMA/Losira. My body was not ready for that game.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
June 06 2011 10:53 GMT
#28357
On June 06 2011 19:25 Hittegods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 19:11 KingPaddy wrote:
On June 06 2011 18:35 cordlc wrote:
On June 06 2011 16:54 FataLe wrote:
On June 06 2011 16:49 TAMinator wrote:
This is what happens when latency is not involved, koreans win.

Wouldn't go that far. A few of the foreigners had really close series with the koreans. They're ahead of us but to imply that lag is the deciding factor in inter-continental tournaments is pretty silly imo.

I just don't see how you can hold this position after yet another round of Korean dominance in a LAN setting.

IEM, all of Korea was at the top. This time they took top 3, with the other 2 Korean invites only getting knocked out by each other (July never dropped a set to a foreigner).

Meanwhile the Koreans play like crap (relatively) in online tournaments. It's not a coincidence.

Actually July dropped a set against both Sjow and Sheth.

A game, not set.

Oh.. I'm sorry then! Thought "set" would stand for a game/map..
Happy Frog
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia490 Posts
June 06 2011 10:54 GMT
#28358
On June 06 2011 19:52 Velicia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 19:49 Happy Frog wrote:
Can someone explain the Naniwa dancing thing for me? Whatever happened has seemed to have gotten lost in the premature egrackulation shitstorm.




And congrats to MLG for such a great event!


Naniwa essentially 4gated MC, thinking he had a win in the bag, he prematurely danced his zealots in MC's base. If he'd literally moved those zealots a centimeter forward instead of dancing, he would have seen MC's just then finishing Dark Shrine. MC warps in DT's - gg.


Thanks!
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 10:55:13
June 06 2011 10:54 GMT
#28359
On June 06 2011 19:34 Jzeeee wrote:
Anyone else noticed that Korean's only lost to other korean's during championship bracket? (Select doesn't count)


Yes and I for one am glad that Koreans roflstomped the western scene.

It goes to show that the Korean model of team houses and hard work pays off even in SC2.

I was afraid that the improvement to UI and simplifying/improvements of game mechanics would put the skill ceiling a bit too low so that even players not practicing in that way could compete with them.

Also it's great that tournaments in this early life of SC2 already becoming global.

Western scene will only learn and get better with each MLG now that they know what they are up against!
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 06 2011 10:55 GMT
#28360
Anyone got a vod link for MMA vs Idra series please? I wanna catch Day9s analysis of the game right after cause I missed it.
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