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Please don't complain about MLG stream quality or MLG itself. They work very hard to provide you with an enjoyable service.

Enough with the racism discussions, this is a LR Thread. Cut it out.
-- updated 7:55 KST
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20461
Nestea shoutout!

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
RandomAccount#106470
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20462
--- Nuked ---
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20463
On June 06 2011 06:42 Belha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 06:37 gh0un wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:32 Zheega wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:31 gh0un wrote:
Idra was maxed on Hydralisks + Infestors and they just got stomped by mass stalkers.
Dont come with dts, they didnt participate in the big fight.
Hydras suck versus stalkers, never come with that argument again.

Hydras are OK against stalkers, you need some unit variety, some roaches/zerglings mixed in.


You are telling me that a pure stalker ball needs to be opposed by 3-4 different types of units in order to have a chance? Ok now the game makes sense.
Protoss just builds blink stalkers the whole game and still has a shot at winning.
I understand perfectly.


Have you been playing the game latealy??? Half top zergs are 1a with roach ling pushes (like the Z "hero" Idra). MC smartly stopped Collosi production due to Idra corruptor count (+10), that plus more drones from Idra, means more Stalkers than hidras in that game, AND stalkers need to be microed at pro level to fight with hidras AND those where microed at MC level, so stop crying withous sense and start thinking a bit.


Seriously what are you even smoking? They need to be microed at pro level?
He blinked on top of the hydras, there was no micro involved at all.
Blinking stalkers IS NOT HARD TO DO, and blinking on top of your opponent army is even easier.
Find another excuse, please.

User was temp banned for this post.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20464
On June 06 2011 06:46 XiGua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 06:45 SKtheAnathema wrote:
Does MMA get to code S if he wins?

No

The Code S spot for first place isn't untill next MLG afaik.
Other than that I believe the nationality of the winner is irrelevent so future invited koreans can get the Code S invite.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20465
This is going to be an amazing series, but I don't see anyone beating MC. Looking forward to these games though~~
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20466
Oh Artosis you forgot July
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20467
I think Losira came from Hwaseung, not KT, artosis misspoke?
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20468
On June 06 2011 06:47 Coutcha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 06:46 wei2coolman wrote:
Everytime I see a "lag" screen I want to punch blizzard in the face.



yes
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Blardy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States290 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20469
Really good game on the Halo Reach stream going on atm if anyone wants to watch.
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20470
On June 06 2011 06:46 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 06:45 Genome852 wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:42 gh0un wrote:
Hydras > Stalkers
That myth just got debunked.


Hydras + Infestors > Stalkers
That myth just got debunked.


I was almost certain idra had that game when he attacked. But apparently there were DTs hacking away at idra's army that the casters didn't notice... and those of us watching on the low quality stream probably didn't notice either in the midst of all the action.

If it weren't for the DTs, I'm 100% sure idra's army would have dominated the blink stalkers.


I only saw 1 dt attacking the army of idra. 1 DT doesn't do THAT much.

Hmm... earlier posts said there were three in there, not just one.

I didn't see a single one because of the stream quality, and I was focusing on MC's blink micro, so don't ask me.
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20471
On June 06 2011 06:40 TDN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 06:30 Liveon wrote:
For everyone seeing the Koreans as dominating force, yes they are. But remember that these (Losira, MC, July, MMA) are the absolute top Koreans. It's not strange that they dominate, it would be rather strange if they didn't.


Not really anymore. Most of them are round 64 drop-out from the Super Tournament.


actually yes, losira is 2nd or 3rd best zerg in korea and top 5 world, MC is the best and top 5 best players in the world, and mma is 3rd-5th best terran in the world. July top 10 world zergs. only Moon is weak of the koreans that showed up here.

while the 'foreign' boys lacked two things:
1. not all the top pros came to the mlg, think ukrainians etc.
2. the MLG format is still pretty imbalanced and creates very hard conditions for non-seeded players that are better than most of those outside the top 10 finishers at least, ex. morrow etc.

the korean dominance is undisputable, but this isn't IEM where second tier kreans owned face, the korans we got here are the cream of the crop
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
Rayansaki
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal1266 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20472
On June 06 2011 06:47 ComusLoM wrote:
MMA Hwaiting! I just fancy a PVT final.


if MMA wins we won't get a pvt final. losira won't lose to mc.
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: IMNestea (Death), IMLosirA (Famine), IMmvp (War), IMFenix (Conquest)
Stuv
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands942 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20473
Hey Tastosis were not watching GSL lol.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20474
On June 06 2011 06:47 theteam wrote:
aww no camera to the face this match


Yeah wth
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20475
On June 06 2011 06:47 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 06:45 mordk wrote:
I think we can take some conclusions from MLG now:

1.- Koreans are the better SC2 players: All koreans (except for moon) performed very well on pool play, while dealing with jetlag. Koreans in the championship bracket were only eliminated by koreans. Top 3 is all-korean. I think it's proof enough, even if I think the foreigner pool could be a bit stronger, I don't think the results would be too different.

2.- Nani is best foreigner protoss, hands down. Idra's position as best foreigner zerg is kinda doubtful, you can't be the best with that terrible mindset.

3.- Thorzain is a great player and TSL3 wasn't a fluke at all. Sheth shows TONS of promise, as do Major and ViBe, for the foreigner scene.

4.- Koreans are better showmakers as far as gaming stuff go. This whole "MC SO BM" thing is ridiculous, he's putting up a show. This is why MC's "BM" is different from idra's. He uses it to entertain the crowd, not to randomly dish shit like Idra does all the time. We could see how MC actually feels about his opponents. He very respectfully hand shook with nani and moon, and probably T-zain as well.

5.- Tastosis is funnier that Day/WHEAT, but the latter can make games a little more exciting.

6.- This was, all in all, a GREAT EVENT. Props to MLG for surviving the Dallas disaster and becoming a lot better. Really, congratulations, you've shown balls.


Agree 100%


Interesting!
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 21:49:05
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20476
mlg isn't uploading the replay last game of idra/mc
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
Coutcha
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada519 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20477
On June 06 2011 06:48 Blardy wrote:
Really good game on the Halo Reach stream going on atm if anyone wants to watch.

lol...
This is what the world is for Making ELECTRICITY :D
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20478
On June 06 2011 06:45 SenorChang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 06:44 Mailing wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:43 Tyree wrote:
On June 06 2011 06:37 Elem wrote:
UGh. Why, Idra. Why. He could've easily shattered the Korean top 3 and even win MLG. But then this. Completely fucked up my MLG experience.


Not even close, he clearly cannot compete with them when it matters, it was shown in GSL and its shown now.

Its fine being a fan of a player but fabricating some sort of false legacy around your favorite player is just setting up for dissapointment at the next tournament.

Idra is not LeBron James of Starcraft, he is Carlos Boozer, decent player on form when he plays well but otherwise not a top tier player



You do understand that the players here at MLG at easily the top 16 Code S players right? IdrA is still better than 95% of the korean progamers.

....

Top 16 Code S? I find that very hard to believe lol


Idra was top 8 when he left...
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20479
On June 06 2011 06:44 flodeskum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 06:29 Karthane wrote:
I still don't really get what happened. Infestor hydra should have destroyed that..

Or just ling hydra like in losira vs nani.

I don't understand how mc won it, dts did something but most of the time the hydras will clean that up. MC did have some superb blink micro (before that in-yo-face blink) which will have helped.

I still think that rallying lings to the front in that fight (and having detection) could have won that fight for idra.

I can't wait to see that replay tbh.

Superb blink micro and horrendous infestor micro made him lose that engagement so badly. That and only 3/5 of IdrA's hydras were actually attacking.
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Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#20480
On June 06 2011 06:32 ffadicted wrote:
So

Koreans destroy the group play going 20 - 3 overall in series
In the championship bracket, Koreans have now secured top 3 spots
Every korean that got eliminated... got eliminated by other koreans
MLG Columbus champion will be a Korean

I think we can officially end the argument here.

SOUTH KOREA STARCRAFT FIGHTIN!!!! KEEP THE MONOPOLY WHERE IT BELONGS :D

Looks like GSL is starting early today indeed

The sad thing is, some of the very top Koreans (imo), such as Nestea, MVP, Bomber, MKP, didn't even come
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