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On May 27 2011 20:53 TooN wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 20:50 Deekin[ wrote:On May 27 2011 20:29 Deekin[ wrote:
MC gonna get stomped now! This is all I have to say And btw MC is so overrated. maybe he is in a slump. it doesnt make sense to say he is overrated when he has won like 2 GSLs, dreamhack, and copenhagen. People go on losing streaks. you should call people like LiquidTyler overrated.
See, nobody is saying that Tyler is the best player in the world, or even the best player on NA at this point. But he is a foreign Starcraft legend, a lot of people love him, cheer for him and want him to do well - yet I don't think anybody ever called him a favorite to win an MLG or anything. If anything, he's underrated, because a lot of newer fans aren't aware of how talented and good he is while he's training and motivated.
MC on the other hand is overrated BECAUSE he won two GSLs. People see the result and nothing else, and they instantly give him nicknames like "God" and call him a future bonjwa, or whatever. That kind of reasoning is pretty much the DEFINITION of a player being overrated. Especially since there's really nothing extraordinary to be seen in his play - a lot of his wins are due to developing build orders and timings, rather than being an overall solid player.
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On May 27 2011 21:02 Rayansaki wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 21:01 mistgun_EU wrote:On May 27 2011 21:00 WindCalibur wrote:On May 27 2011 20:59 Rayansaki wrote:On May 27 2011 20:56 red4ce wrote:On May 27 2011 20:54 Rayansaki wrote:
Can we start congratulating IMMvp for his win in the super tournament yet? Nestea or Bomber might have something to say about that. I really doubt that, specially since Nestea, Losira and Bomber are all in the bottom half of the bracket, and Mvp will not lose to Nestea nor will Nestea lose to Bomber  I wouldn't be so sure... I've seen a youtube video where Bomber stomped Losira and his TvZ looks pretty damn solid. The winner between Nestea or Bomber has the potential to win the whole tourney imo. dont forget MMA, MKP, Alicia and NADA!!! MKP vs mvp would be fun to watch, if only to watch yet another massacre.
first time it was 4-0, second was 4-2, this time 2-4 !
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I was kind of hoping for a MC v MVP finals.
a finals between two finals winners would be pretty awesome right about now.
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Don't forget that tomorrow is Saturday, and Saturday is 3 hours earlier than usual !
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On a side note, I believe the only player bomber has trouble with based off the stats, is MC. With him gone, he has a very good chance of taking this whole thing. The only players IMO who have something to say about it are mvp and alicia. (I want to say mma but he hasn't reached a consistency I'm comfortable with yet). As for Losira and Nestea, well, I feel bombers vZ is too good.
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On May 27 2011 21:05 mistgun_EU wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 21:02 Rayansaki wrote:On May 27 2011 21:01 mistgun_EU wrote:On May 27 2011 21:00 WindCalibur wrote:On May 27 2011 20:59 Rayansaki wrote:On May 27 2011 20:56 red4ce wrote:On May 27 2011 20:54 Rayansaki wrote:
Can we start congratulating IMMvp for his win in the super tournament yet? Nestea or Bomber might have something to say about that. I really doubt that, specially since Nestea, Losira and Bomber are all in the bottom half of the bracket, and Mvp will not lose to Nestea nor will Nestea lose to Bomber I wouldn't be so sure... I've seen a youtube video where Bomber stomped Losira and his TvZ looks pretty damn solid. The winner between Nestea or Bomber has the potential to win the whole tourney imo. dont forget MMA, MKP, Alicia and NADA!!! MKP vs mvp would be fun to watch, if only to watch yet another massacre. first time it was 4-0, second was 4-2, this time 2-4 !
The 4-2 was just as one sided as the 4-0, He just pulled 2 BO wins which he still almost lost
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On May 27 2011 21:05 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 20:53 TooN wrote:On May 27 2011 20:50 Deekin[ wrote:On May 27 2011 20:29 Deekin[ wrote:
MC gonna get stomped now! This is all I have to say And btw MC is so overrated. maybe he is in a slump. it doesnt make sense to say he is overrated when he has won like 2 GSLs, dreamhack, and copenhagen. People go on losing streaks. you should call people like LiquidTyler overrated. See, nobody is saying that Tyler is the best player in the world, or even the best player on NA at this point. But he is a foreign Starcraft legend, a lot of people love him, cheer for him and want him to do well - yet I don't think anybody ever called him a favorite to win an MLG or anything. If anything, he's underrated, because a lot of newer fans aren't aware of how talented and good he is while he's training and motivated. MC on the other hand is overrated BECAUSE he won two GSLs. People see the result and nothing else, and they instantly give him nicknames like "God" and call him a future bonjwa, or whatever. That kind of reasoning is pretty much the DEFINITION of a player being overrated. Especially since there's really nothing extraordinary to be seen in his play - a lot of his wins are due to developing build orders and timings, rather than being an overall solid player.
No, his wins are down to amazing micro, something you probably cant appreciate or realise.
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Eh, MVP can totally be sniped.
Would not be shocked at all if someone like MMA or Keen take him out.
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On May 27 2011 20:56 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 20:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 27 2011 20:55 mistgun_EU wrote:
in TL , it says tomorrow matches
sC vs hyperdub
maka vs Noblesse
polt vs losira
huk vs San
??????????????????? This is correct. The nestea and bomber part of the bracket arent until the last day of the ro64 they swapped because of mlg.
Just to clarify, only the day of matches are changed. The bracket remains the same.
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On May 27 2011 21:05 mistgun_EU wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 21:02 Rayansaki wrote:On May 27 2011 21:01 mistgun_EU wrote:On May 27 2011 21:00 WindCalibur wrote:On May 27 2011 20:59 Rayansaki wrote:On May 27 2011 20:56 red4ce wrote:On May 27 2011 20:54 Rayansaki wrote:
Can we start congratulating IMMvp for his win in the super tournament yet? Nestea or Bomber might have something to say about that. I really doubt that, specially since Nestea, Losira and Bomber are all in the bottom half of the bracket, and Mvp will not lose to Nestea nor will Nestea lose to Bomber I wouldn't be so sure... I've seen a youtube video where Bomber stomped Losira and his TvZ looks pretty damn solid. The winner between Nestea or Bomber has the potential to win the whole tourney imo. dont forget MMA, MKP, Alicia and NADA!!! MKP vs mvp would be fun to watch, if only to watch yet another massacre. first time it was 4-0, second was 4-2, this time 2-4 !
It's not a final. MKP will realise that and 0-2 to 3-2 him a la MKP vs MC GSL WC  .
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On May 27 2011 20:56 btxmonty wrote:
LOL it's so funny all these MC fanboys... It wasn't MC's mismicro, it was Alicia's SUPERIOR micro. They were both microing the best they could and Alicia was just better.
classic example of the 'idiots' i was referring to. you know what youre saying right? that mc on his best day will have inferior micro to alicia's on his best day. yeah, thats what i thought.. idiot.
gratz to alicia tho.
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On May 27 2011 21:05 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 20:53 TooN wrote:On May 27 2011 20:50 Deekin[ wrote:On May 27 2011 20:29 Deekin[ wrote:
MC gonna get stomped now! This is all I have to say And btw MC is so overrated. maybe he is in a slump. it doesnt make sense to say he is overrated when he has won like 2 GSLs, dreamhack, and copenhagen. People go on losing streaks. you should call people like LiquidTyler overrated. See, nobody is saying that Tyler is the best player in the world, or even the best player on NA at this point. But he is a foreign Starcraft legend, a lot of people love him, cheer for him and want him to do well - yet I don't think anybody ever called him a favorite to win an MLG or anything. If anything, he's underrated, because a lot of newer fans aren't aware of how talented and good he is while he's training and motivated. MC on the other hand is overrated BECAUSE he won two GSLs. People see the result and nothing else, and they instantly give him nicknames like "God" and call him a future bonjwa, or whatever. That kind of reasoning is pretty much the DEFINITION of a player being overrated. Especially since there's really nothing extraordinary to be seen in his play - a lot of his wins are due to developing build orders and timings, rather than being an overall solid player.
This post is gold. Thanks.
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The "God" status cannot be reached yet at the current lvl of SC2, only in BW it is possible
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On May 27 2011 21:09 shaman6ix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 20:56 btxmonty wrote:
LOL it's so funny all these MC fanboys... It wasn't MC's mismicro, it was Alicia's SUPERIOR micro. They were both microing the best they could and Alicia was just better. classic example of the 'idiots' i was referring to. you know what youre saying right? that mc on his best day will have inferior micro to alicia's on his best day. yeah, thats what i thought.. idiot. gratz to alicia tho.
That's EXACTLY what I was saying, that when BOTH are on their best capable micro Alicia is going to come on top. Did you not understand? Idiot? lol
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Guess who else lost to Alicia? MVP. Don't act like MC got beat by some scrub, especially when it was in a PvP revolving around four gate. You people are acting like Alicia outplayed him in some 30 minute epic PvP games that showcased macro, micro, game knowledge and decision making.
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On May 27 2011 21:05 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 20:53 TooN wrote:On May 27 2011 20:50 Deekin[ wrote:On May 27 2011 20:29 Deekin[ wrote:
MC gonna get stomped now! This is all I have to say And btw MC is so overrated. maybe he is in a slump. it doesnt make sense to say he is overrated when he has won like 2 GSLs, dreamhack, and copenhagen. People go on losing streaks. you should call people like LiquidTyler overrated. See, nobody is saying that Tyler is the best player in the world, or even the best player on NA at this point. But he is a foreign Starcraft legend, a lot of people love him, cheer for him and want him to do well - yet I don't think anybody ever called him a favorite to win an MLG or anything. If anything, he's underrated, because a lot of newer fans aren't aware of how talented and good he is while he's training and motivated. MC on the other hand is overrated BECAUSE he won two GSLs. People see the result and nothing else, and they instantly give him nicknames like "God" and call him a future bonjwa, or whatever. That kind of reasoning is pretty much the DEFINITION of a player being overrated. Especially since there's really nothing extraordinary to be seen in his play - a lot of his wins are due to developing build orders and timings, rather than being an overall solid player.
the one true "god" is in BW i believe in monotheism
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On May 27 2011 21:09 shaman6ix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 20:56 btxmonty wrote:
LOL it's so funny all these MC fanboys... It wasn't MC's mismicro, it was Alicia's SUPERIOR micro. They were both microing the best they could and Alicia was just better. classic example of the 'idiots' i was referring to. you know what youre saying right? that mc on his best day will have inferior micro to alicia's on his best day. yeah, thats what i thought.. idiot. gratz to alicia tho.
Why is it so implausible that Alicia would have better micro than MC...and who said that MC was playing his best?
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On May 27 2011 21:05 Talin wrote:
See, nobody is saying that Tyler is the best player in the world, or even the best player on NA at this point. But he is a foreign Starcraft legend, a lot of people love him, cheer for him and want him to do well - yet I don't think anybody ever called him a favorite to win an MLG or anything. If anything, he's underrated, because a lot of newer fans aren't aware of how talented and good he is while he's training and motivated.
This is a very different game from BW though.
Nobody is calling Grubby underrated in SC2 because he showed what he was capable of in WC3. I think the same should apply here.
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On May 27 2011 21:13 btxmonty wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 21:09 shaman6ix wrote:On May 27 2011 20:56 btxmonty wrote:
LOL it's so funny all these MC fanboys... It wasn't MC's mismicro, it was Alicia's SUPERIOR micro. They were both microing the best they could and Alicia was just better. classic example of the 'idiots' i was referring to. you know what youre saying right? that mc on his best day will have inferior micro to alicia's on his best day. yeah, thats what i thought.. idiot. gratz to alicia tho. That's EXACTLY what I was saying, that when BOTH are on their best capable micro Alicia is going to come on top. Did you not understand? Idiot? lol
MC was significantly behind in his warpin cycles and was still holding very well, his only mistakes were allowing two stalkers to live with one hit left each which is still not a gamebreaker that two extra hits went off. How is that showing their best capable micro? If you watch the game he was actually outmicroing Alicia hard besides those two mistakes, he just didn't have the unit count to push him back. At one point it was like 3 zealots 3 stalkers to 3 stalkers and MC evened it out. Came COMPLETELY down to him having built a second gas and a couple more probes.
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On May 27 2011 21:13 btxmonty wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 21:09 shaman6ix wrote:On May 27 2011 20:56 btxmonty wrote:
LOL it's so funny all these MC fanboys... It wasn't MC's mismicro, it was Alicia's SUPERIOR micro. They were both microing the best they could and Alicia was just better. classic example of the 'idiots' i was referring to. you know what youre saying right? that mc on his best day will have inferior micro to alicia's on his best day. yeah, thats what i thought.. idiot. gratz to alicia tho. That's EXACTLY what I was saying, that when BOTH are on their best capable micro Alicia is going to come on top. Did you not understand? Idiot? lol
I didnt said you misunderstood i said you are an idiot for believing that alicia has better micro than mc. plain and simple
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