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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 28 2011 03:23 GMT
#1701
On May 28 2011 04:13 bearhug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 23:32 HolyArrow wrote:
On May 27 2011 23:28 Belisarius wrote:
On May 27 2011 20:28 R3N wrote:
Alicia is also a bit too overhyped by artosis IMO. Yes he's good, might even be really good but he looks like an average Code S'er rather than the destroyer of the worlds Artosis make him to be.


Quoting this for irony. Despite it actually being quite a reasonable statement at the time, I think Alicia is pretty much now the destroyer of worlds.

Also lol at the guy saying those were build order losses and micro had nothing to do with it.


You could say Alicia is overhyped. But let's take a look at his list of kills:

MVP, MC, MKP, LosirA, Nestea, Bomber, NaDa

Sure, not all those were Bo3s. But the ones that were (MVP, MC, Bomber) is already insane enough. Look at that and then call him overhyped.


Plz don't be biased. Especially when Losira just "killed" him 2:0 in GSL may. Sometimes A beats B, sometimes B beats A, and A said '' B is on my list of kills'' while B said '' A is on my list of kills''? That's kind of pathetic.


Pathetic? Get over yourself. Yes, if A beats B sometimes and B beats A sometimes, it's perfectly okay to say that they're on each other's list of kills. By your logic, Player A can only boast a "kill" on another player when he has NEVER been beaten by Player B. Do you realize how stupid that is?
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 28 2011 03:26 GMT
#1702
On May 28 2011 07:48 TDN wrote:
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On May 27 2011 21:52 dunc wrote:
it's still pretty clear that the favorites right now are MVP and nestea, maybe MKP, MMA and losira. Don't get too ahead of the facts.


Can you please not put MMA/Losira on the same level as MarineKing. One of these 3 has proven he can make it into these finals.. 3 times and should be a favourite.

That said I agree with the rest of your post. People overhype people like crazy(see MMA and Losira) just because Artosis yells out his bullsiht and everyone on TL feels like following suit.

How about we wait until people actually accomplish something. Alicia is obviously very good but MC has proven himself, Alicia hasn't gotten nearly as far yet.


Agree, so many people on TL without their own opinions. Their opinions all come from what Artosis said.


Actually, I'd bet you that most people are more intelligent than you give them credit for, and base their opinions of players like MMA and LosirA on... you know... their actual play?
bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 03:32:48
May 28 2011 03:27 GMT
#1703
On May 28 2011 12:17 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 04:13 bearhug wrote:
On May 27 2011 23:32 HolyArrow wrote:
On May 27 2011 23:28 Belisarius wrote:
On May 27 2011 20:28 R3N wrote:
Alicia is also a bit too overhyped by artosis IMO. Yes he's good, might even be really good but he looks like an average Code S'er rather than the destroyer of the worlds Artosis make him to be.


Quoting this for irony. Despite it actually being quite a reasonable statement at the time, I think Alicia is pretty much now the destroyer of worlds.

Also lol at the guy saying those were build order losses and micro had nothing to do with it.


You could say Alicia is overhyped. But let's take a look at his list of kills:

MVP, MC, MKP, LosirA, Nestea, Bomber, NaDa

Sure, not all those were Bo3s. But the ones that were (MVP, MC, Bomber) is already insane enough. Look at that and then call him overhyped.


Plz don't be biased. Especially when Losira just "killed" him 2:0 in GSL may. Sometimes A beats B, sometimes B beats A, and A said '' B is on my list of kills'' while B said '' A is on my list of kills''? That's kind of pathetic.




Talk about being hypocritical? How is that biased? Are you saying beating those people means nothing because he was 2:0 by Losira? So beating MC 2:0 means nothing?

Double standards, kid. You stop being biased, practice what you preach


No, he's saying that alicia is, in fact, a good code s player, but he doesn't think that alicia is as good as artosis says, which i agree with. I was impressed with his win over MC (obviously) and if he continues to beat those caliber of players, then you can argue your case. Also, if he continues to beat the best players he will eventually win a championship so you can even further your argument.
But that guys whole point is people beat each other especially at the top level, so saying he beat X therefore he is good means nothing. MC lost to alicia but has 100k+ in prize money while alicia has very little if none. Which looks better?

edit:
On May 28 2011 12:26 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 07:48 TDN wrote:
On May 27 2011 21:52 dunc wrote:
it's still pretty clear that the favorites right now are MVP and nestea, maybe MKP, MMA and losira. Don't get too ahead of the facts.


Can you please not put MMA/Losira on the same level as MarineKing. One of these 3 has proven he can make it into these finals.. 3 times and should be a favourite.

That said I agree with the rest of your post. People overhype people like crazy(see MMA and Losira) just because Artosis yells out his bullsiht and everyone on TL feels like following suit.

How about we wait until people actually accomplish something. Alicia is obviously very good but MC has proven himself, Alicia hasn't gotten nearly as far yet.


Agree, so many people on TL without their own opinions. Their opinions all come from what Artosis said.


Actually, I'd bet you that most people are more intelligent than you give them credit for, and base their opinions of players like MMA and LosirA on... you know... their actual play?


No, many people on here listen to what artosis says and just go along with it. MMA has beaten top level players as a sniper in a team league, sure. But he's in code A and couldn't beat huk (which i find to be a very low level code s player) to get into code s. Losira is a bit better, but just like clide, trickster, and a few other players, artosis and tasteless constantly say how good they are and constantly they do not win, or even impress, during their games. Yet, the people on TL talk about how good those players are.
MrSweetNess
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia312 Posts
May 30 2011 01:26 GMT
#1704
On May 27 2011 21:21 Fubi wrote:
How were these brackets determined anyways? It just seems random, cuz why do you have matchups like JJun vs TheBest, and Byun (average at best) getting the easiest player Legalmind. Then on the other hand you have MC vs Alicia and Boxer vs Genius, whom all deserve to advance.


It's actually done with a seeding system, although it is not great for seeding the best players as of this very tournament.
As far as I have read, the way it is done is that the games are set to be chosen at random, although the top 16 players with the most points in all GSLs combined are specially placed so they cannot meet until round of 16.
It is just unlucky that because the better players that emerged later in SC2 have not played in many GSLs as they have had to come through qualifiers and Code A, whereas players like anypro and TOP, while never really have had great success (anypro made it to the Ro4 once, but was beaten fairly well) have been consistantly placed in Ro32 in Code S and higher, so they end up with more GSL points then someone like Bomber and Alicia who just got into Code S recently.

That is why you get odd games such as Byun v Legalmind while you have matches like MC v Alicia which seems crazy for a Ro64 game and NesTea v Bomber which could easily have been the final, in the Ro32 instead
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10372 Posts
May 30 2011 01:53 GMT
#1705
Thank you Rainbow with that Mech build, I love it and am gonna use that as my standard TvT now ^_^
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
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