On May 28 2011 03:39 Sandster wrote:
You forgot the one on the other end - turtle.
You forgot the one on the other end - turtle.
TL'ers have a hard on for 'macro games' so I don't think they care about turtles.
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
May 27 2011 20:40 GMT
#1681
On May 28 2011 03:39 Sandster wrote: Show nested quote + On May 28 2011 02:54 LaiShin wrote: I thought i've seen all the terms coined to undermine a player's skill...cheeser, 1 base/2 base all-in n00b and now timing attacker. You forgot the one on the other end - turtle. TL'ers have a hard on for 'macro games' so I don't think they care about turtles. | ||
L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 27 2011 21:00 GMT
#1682
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
May 27 2011 21:16 GMT
#1683
On May 28 2011 03:57 julianto wrote: I just watched the vod for MC vs Alicia and the way Artosis tends to ignore Tasteless and interrupt him is getting on my nerves. Guess I'll enjoy it all the more whenever Artosis gets owned in NASL. I don't like him as a commentator at all either but he seems to get a lot of credit so. His game knowledge is amazing at least! | ||
HappyZerg
Germany178 Posts
May 27 2011 21:32 GMT
#1684
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
May 27 2011 22:11 GMT
#1685
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
May 27 2011 22:35 GMT
#1686
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HappyZerg
Germany178 Posts
May 27 2011 22:41 GMT
#1687
On May 28 2011 07:11 Alabasern wrote: Game 1 of Alicia vs. MC was so great (because it's free!) what about game 2 o.o? i really wanne watch it ![]() | ||
MrCon
France29748 Posts
May 27 2011 22:43 GMT
#1688
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TDN
United States133 Posts
May 27 2011 22:48 GMT
#1689
On May 27 2011 21:52 dunc wrote: Show nested quote + it's still pretty clear that the favorites right now are MVP and nestea, maybe MKP, MMA and losira. Don't get too ahead of the facts. Can you please not put MMA/Losira on the same level as MarineKing. One of these 3 has proven he can make it into these finals.. 3 times and should be a favourite. That said I agree with the rest of your post. People overhype people like crazy(see MMA and Losira) just because Artosis yells out his bullsiht and everyone on TL feels like following suit. How about we wait until people actually accomplish something. Alicia is obviously very good but MC has proven himself, Alicia hasn't gotten nearly as far yet. Agree, so many people on TL without their own opinions. Their opinions all come from what Artosis said. | ||
dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
May 27 2011 23:02 GMT
#1690
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 27 2011 23:24 GMT
#1691
On May 28 2011 07:48 TDN wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2011 21:52 dunc wrote: it's still pretty clear that the favorites right now are MVP and nestea, maybe MKP, MMA and losira. Don't get too ahead of the facts. Can you please not put MMA/Losira on the same level as MarineKing. One of these 3 has proven he can make it into these finals.. 3 times and should be a favourite. That said I agree with the rest of your post. People overhype people like crazy(see MMA and Losira) just because Artosis yells out his bullsiht and everyone on TL feels like following suit. How about we wait until people actually accomplish something. Alicia is obviously very good but MC has proven himself, Alicia hasn't gotten nearly as far yet. Agree, so many people on TL without their own opinions. Their opinions all come from what Artosis said. At least they have opinions wherever they may come from, rather than going by the "this guy won gsl twice and this other guy has been to the finals 3 times, they must be phenomenal players and better than everyone else" logic. Their opinions all come from glancing at the medal list, they don't even need to watch the actual games, just follow TLPD updates. It's better trusting somebody who is at least knowledgeable about the game (like Artosis is), than using statistics to determine who is good and who isn't, especially at such an early stage of SC2 pro scene. Statistics don't take into account regular metagame shifts, balance patches, map changes and the fact that genuinely talented and skilled new players show up pretty much every month and can easily be as good (if not better) than the old favorites. | ||
Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
May 28 2011 00:10 GMT
#1692
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maryelizbethwinstead
Mexico223 Posts
May 28 2011 00:42 GMT
#1693
On May 28 2011 01:36 Benjef wrote: Minchul ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ahahahaha I love how this is soooo sincere | ||
Maxentius
69 Posts
May 28 2011 01:44 GMT
#1694
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SeRenExZerg
United States401 Posts
May 28 2011 02:02 GMT
#1695
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
May 28 2011 02:09 GMT
#1696
On May 28 2011 08:24 Talin wrote: Show nested quote + On May 28 2011 07:48 TDN wrote: On May 27 2011 21:52 dunc wrote: it's still pretty clear that the favorites right now are MVP and nestea, maybe MKP, MMA and losira. Don't get too ahead of the facts. Can you please not put MMA/Losira on the same level as MarineKing. One of these 3 has proven he can make it into these finals.. 3 times and should be a favourite. That said I agree with the rest of your post. People overhype people like crazy(see MMA and Losira) just because Artosis yells out his bullsiht and everyone on TL feels like following suit. How about we wait until people actually accomplish something. Alicia is obviously very good but MC has proven himself, Alicia hasn't gotten nearly as far yet. Agree, so many people on TL without their own opinions. Their opinions all come from what Artosis said. At least they have opinions wherever they may come from, rather than going by the "this guy won gsl twice and this other guy has been to the finals 3 times, they must be phenomenal players and better than everyone else" logic. Their opinions all come from glancing at the medal list, they don't even need to watch the actual games, just follow TLPD updates. It's better trusting somebody who is at least knowledgeable about the game (like Artosis is), than using statistics to determine who is good and who isn't, especially at such an early stage of SC2 pro scene. Statistics don't take into account regular metagame shifts, balance patches, map changes and the fact that genuinely talented and skilled new players show up pretty much every month and can easily be as good (if not better) than the old favorites. Good players come and GO every month.Artosis may know what he talks about, but he gets excited so easy and is so biased that you can't just blind thrust on everything he says. | ||
Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 28 2011 02:09 GMT
#1697
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Tarbosh
United States127 Posts
May 28 2011 02:13 GMT
#1698
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 28 2011 02:13 GMT
#1699
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
May 28 2011 03:17 GMT
#1700
On May 28 2011 04:13 bearhug wrote: Show nested quote + On May 27 2011 23:32 HolyArrow wrote: On May 27 2011 23:28 Belisarius wrote: On May 27 2011 20:28 R3N wrote: Alicia is also a bit too overhyped by artosis IMO. Yes he's good, might even be really good but he looks like an average Code S'er rather than the destroyer of the worlds Artosis make him to be. Quoting this for irony. Despite it actually being quite a reasonable statement at the time, I think Alicia is pretty much now the destroyer of worlds. Also lol at the guy saying those were build order losses and micro had nothing to do with it. You could say Alicia is overhyped. But let's take a look at his list of kills: MVP, MC, MKP, LosirA, Nestea, Bomber, NaDa Sure, not all those were Bo3s. But the ones that were (MVP, MC, Bomber) is already insane enough. Look at that and then call him overhyped. Plz don't be biased. Especially when Losira just "killed" him 2:0 in GSL may. Sometimes A beats B, sometimes B beats A, and A said '' B is on my list of kills'' while B said '' A is on my list of kills''? That's kind of pathetic. Talk about being hypocritical? How is that biased? Are you saying beating those people means nothing because he was 2:0 by Losira? So beating MC 2:0 means nothing? Double standards, kid. You stop being biased, practice what you preach | ||
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