EPT[IPL 2] Qualifier 3 - Day 4 - Page 3
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MaxField
United States2386 Posts
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On May 27 2011 08:18 link0 wrote: Cloaked ghosts do not beat BL + Infestors. Even if the zerg doesn't make an overseer, fungal not only kills ghosts very quickly but also reveal cloaked units. BL almost 1 shot ghosts as well due to friendly fire from tanks. Having multiple 200/100 units instantly die isn't how to you counter BL + infestor. You've clearly not seen how good snipe is against broodlords and overseers. You should watch Brat_OK play against that composition. The cloak is just to get the EMP on the infesters off. | ||
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Megiddosc
United States966 Posts
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Pills
206 Posts
On May 27 2011 08:20 1Eris1 wrote: Don't use cloak, just use snipe. Extremely cost effective. That or he could have made more than one viking Did you see how many corruptors Nerchio had? There was no way that Thorzain could have salvaged the situation by then. Thorzain really needs to practice his vZ a bit more. There's no way he could have won against a decent Zerg by just turtling up. T needs to efficiently harass Z to delay tech until T can finally move into Zerg's main. TvZ is kinda like ZvP now: you can't just let Protoss get three bases and max out as a Zerg player or else you're screwed. Plus, making too many Ghosts is cost prohibitive, b/c then Zerg can just make a huge waves of lings and roaches and crush T's ground force. | ||
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MechKing
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Frankon
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TalonSix2000
United States13 Posts
 ThorZaIN lost on purpose, as to not give away more info about himself. As there are so few replays available for him, it will dificult for future opponents to get a read on him. I felt the games against  Nerchio were very uncharacteristic for him. | ||
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On May 27 2011 08:27 Pills wrote: Did you see how many corruptors Nerchio had? There was no way that Thorzain could have salvaged the situation by then. Thorzain really needs to practice his vZ a bit more. There's no way he could have won against a decent Zerg by just turtling up. T needs to efficiently harass Z to delay tech until T can finally move into Zerg's main. TvZ is kinda like ZvP now: you can't just let Protoss get three bases and max out as a Zerg player or else you're screwed. Plus, making too many Ghosts is cost prohibitive, b/c then Zerg can just make a huge wage of lings and roaches and crush T's ground force. You don't make too many. They're to complement your army not be the bulk of it. Ghosts were his only way out of that situation. Nerchio had too many corrupters for vikings to be viable. | ||
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crabz
227 Posts
On May 27 2011 08:26 TheHova wrote: You've clearly not seen how good snipe is against broodlords and overseers. You should watch Brat_OK play against that composition. The cloak is just to get the EMP on the infesters off. i've seen bratok using them and still losing dont know wtf are u talking about | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On May 27 2011 08:27 Pills wrote: Did you see how many corruptors Nerchio had? There was no way that Thorzain could have salvaged the situation by then. Thorzain really needs to practice his vZ a bit more. There's no way he could have won against a decent Zerg by just turtling up. T needs to efficiently harass Z to delay tech until T can finally move into Zerg's main. TvZ is kinda like ZvP now: you can't just let Protoss get three bases and max out as a Zerg player or else you're screwed. Plus, making too many Ghosts is cost prohibitive, b/c then Zerg can just make a huge waves of lings and roaches and crush T's ground force. 10 or so ghosts is only 20 supply, it's hardly counterproductive if he's investing tons into broodlords. 10 ghosts can easily beat an equal amount of broodlords if you have full energy. Major, Brat_OK, etc do this a lot, it's really good But yes I agree, didn't really look like he knew what he was doing. | ||
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MaxField
United States2386 Posts
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On May 27 2011 08:31 TalonSix2000 wrote: You think ThorZaIN Lost on purpose, as to not give away more info about himself. As there are so few replays available for him, it will dificult for opponents to get a read on him. I felt the games against Nerchio were very uncharacteristic for him. I just think he's unpracticed in the matchup tbh. His best matchup has always been TvP and he practiced TvT a lot for Kas. He'll be rusty TvZ quite simply because he's had no need to practice it of late. I'm sure it'll improve now he doesn't have to focus on a specific matchup. | ||
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
On May 27 2011 08:31 TalonSix2000 wrote: You think ThorZaIN lost on purpose, as to not give away more info about himself. As there are so few replays available for him, it will dificult for future opponents to get a read on him. I felt the games against Nerchio were very uncharacteristic for him. Or maybe he just lost because Nerchio is good. | ||
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SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
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Alex.IGN
United States1050 Posts
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TalonSix2000
United States13 Posts
On May 27 2011 08:33 TheHova wrote: I just think he's unpracticed in the matchup tbh. His best matchup has Always been TvP and he practiced TvT a lot for Kas. He'll be rusty TvZ quite simply because he's had no need to practice it of late. I'M sure it'll improve now he doesn't have to Focus on a specific matchup. He delt with FruitDealer pretty handily in TSL3. | ||
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
Stop downplaying his win against Thorzain, he deserved it. | ||
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TheHova
United Kingdom2612 Posts
On May 27 2011 08:32 crabz wrote: i've seen bratok using them and still losing dont know wtf are u talking about I've seen IdrA lose to Protoss whilst doing Baneling drops. Does it make the strat not viable? Ofcourse it doesn't. You can still do a viable build and lose -___- It works very often for Brat_OK. Stop trying to suggest the composition is unbeatable ffs. Especially in a LR thread. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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