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FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
May 23 2011 01:56 GMT
#441
On May 23 2011 10:54 pieman819 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:53 zyzq wrote:
We need a showmatch between Painuser and Grubby

winner takes on Qxc


and loser faces the winner of CatZ vs. Artosis
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 23 2011 01:57 GMT
#442
On May 23 2011 10:55 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:50 Pajegetc wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:48 TooN wrote:
Why do people think Tyler is top tier sc2?


People like to think BW success translate into SC2 Success, but it's just not the case.


No, its because Tyler proved he's immensely talented and has the capacity to be a top tier player in Brood War. He just hasn't been as active or practiced as much as a pro needs to, which kinda sucks. I'll never doubt his ability to succeed as a pro, but you're right his level of play right now is very dissapointing.

He's talented at BW though. It doesn't transfer directly. Plenty of correlation of course, but it's not perfect.

I don't know if the practice explanation makes sense. Look at a guy like Nada. He doesn't practice much, and it shows. He does stuff like get supply blocked almost every game. But the decisions are sound, the quality is clearly still there. Tyler OTOH seems to be fine mechanically, he just does dumb stuff.
quentel
Profile Joined March 2011
349 Posts
May 23 2011 01:57 GMT
#443
Just a reminder re: Tyler

His next match will be vs Idra

Poor Tyler ^^
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 23 2011 01:58 GMT
#444
On May 23 2011 10:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
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On May 23 2011 10:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:49 garlicface wrote:
hahaha Gretorp: "ROOTDrewbie, hailing from team Canada."

Which according to Catz is not part of North America....


Can I have the story behind that?

He raged after losing to stalife saying that people like him shouldn't be allowed in the NASL because it's for North Americans. This was referencing Stalife's Asian heritage, but Stalife is from Canada.
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akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
May 23 2011 01:58 GMT
#445
nasl really knows how to do it, sandwiching this series, and cloud/mana between sen, boxer and idra to keep people watching rofl
SanguineS
Profile Joined January 2011
32 Posts
May 23 2011 01:58 GMT
#446
On May 23 2011 10:56 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:54 pieman819 wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:53 zyzq wrote:
We need a showmatch between Painuser and Grubby

winner takes on Qxc


and loser faces the winner of CatZ vs. Artosis

Oooooooh. Who's it gonna be? ^^
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
May 23 2011 01:58 GMT
#447
On May 23 2011 10:56 Maliris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:55 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:50 Pajegetc wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:48 TooN wrote:
Why do people think Tyler is top tier sc2?


People like to think BW success translate into SC2 Success, but it's just not the case.


No, its because Tyler proved he's immensely talented and has the capacity to be a top tier player in Brood War. He just hasn't been as active or practiced as much as a pro needs to, which kinda sucks. I'll never doubt his ability to succeed as a pro, but you're right his level of play right now is very dissapointing.

hes not talented, no one is. they got good by practicing and working hard, which tyler doesn't want to do anymore


I disagree on the "no one is talented" part...

But yeah, practice is essential.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 23 2011 01:58 GMT
#448
On May 23 2011 10:57 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:55 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:50 Pajegetc wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:48 TooN wrote:
Why do people think Tyler is top tier sc2?


People like to think BW success translate into SC2 Success, but it's just not the case.


No, its because Tyler proved he's immensely talented and has the capacity to be a top tier player in Brood War. He just hasn't been as active or practiced as much as a pro needs to, which kinda sucks. I'll never doubt his ability to succeed as a pro, but you're right his level of play right now is very dissapointing.

He's talented at BW though. It doesn't transfer directly. Plenty of correlation of course, but it's not perfect.

I don't know if the practice explanation makes sense. Look at a guy like Nada. He doesn't practice much, and it shows. He does stuff like get supply blocked almost every game. But the decisions are sound, the quality is clearly still there. Tyler OTOH seems to be fine mechanically, he just does dumb stuff.

Good post. When someone like NADA has holes in his play, you know you can't rely on "talent".
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
quiet noise
Profile Joined May 2011
599 Posts
May 23 2011 01:58 GMT
#449
On May 23 2011 10:56 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:54 pieman819 wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:53 zyzq wrote:
We need a showmatch between Painuser and Grubby

winner takes on Qxc


and loser faces the winner of CatZ vs. Artosis


shouldnt the loser play the loser, to name the ultimate baddie
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
May 23 2011 01:59 GMT
#450
On May 23 2011 10:57 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:55 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:50 Pajegetc wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:48 TooN wrote:
Why do people think Tyler is top tier sc2?


People like to think BW success translate into SC2 Success, but it's just not the case.


No, its because Tyler proved he's immensely talented and has the capacity to be a top tier player in Brood War. He just hasn't been as active or practiced as much as a pro needs to, which kinda sucks. I'll never doubt his ability to succeed as a pro, but you're right his level of play right now is very dissapointing.

He's talented at BW though. It doesn't transfer directly. Plenty of correlation of course, but it's not perfect.

I don't know if the practice explanation makes sense. Look at a guy like Nada. He doesn't practice much, and it shows. He does stuff like get supply blocked almost every game. But the decisions are sound, the quality is clearly still there. Tyler OTOH seems to be fine mechanically, he just does dumb stuff.

I dont see how anyone can compare NaDa and Tyler, in sc2 or bw, the gap is just to big.
Jman5
Profile Joined September 2010
United States745 Posts
May 23 2011 01:59 GMT
#451
What the hell was that?!
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
May 23 2011 01:59 GMT
#452
OMG when they just sat there I was liek o________o
SooYoung-Noona!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 23 2011 01:59 GMT
#453
On May 23 2011 10:58 quiet noise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:56 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:54 pieman819 wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:53 zyzq wrote:
We need a showmatch between Painuser and Grubby

winner takes on Qxc


and loser faces the winner of CatZ vs. Artosis


shouldnt the loser play the loser, to name the ultimate baddie

Then Tastless rides in on his mighty steed and steals all their ladder points. Muahahahaha!
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Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
May 23 2011 01:59 GMT
#454
oh my god they just sat there looking at each other
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
May 23 2011 02:00 GMT
#455
lol bored tanks and marines facing each other; 'yo sup?' 'fight to the death!' haha
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Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
May 23 2011 02:00 GMT
#456
Wow, PainUser is making life hard for himself
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 23 2011 02:00 GMT
#457
Drewbie and Painuser having a ceasefire there
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
May 23 2011 02:00 GMT
#458
these games are absolutely pathetic. no offense but a lot of these north american players are just completely subpar
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
May 23 2011 02:00 GMT
#459
On May 23 2011 10:56 Maliris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:55 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:50 Pajegetc wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:48 TooN wrote:
Why do people think Tyler is top tier sc2?


People like to think BW success translate into SC2 Success, but it's just not the case.


No, its because Tyler proved he's immensely talented and has the capacity to be a top tier player in Brood War. He just hasn't been as active or practiced as much as a pro needs to, which kinda sucks. I'll never doubt his ability to succeed as a pro, but you're right his level of play right now is very dissapointing.

hes not talented, no one is. they got good by practicing and working hard, which tyler doesn't want to do anymore


No, he's pretty damn talented lol. Also don't forget all of these guys work incredibly hard, and there are people who work incredibly hard but haven't made it. You do need to be talented, to an extent, to make it as a pro. It's just talent will only get you so far and at this level its kind of plateaued and everything comes down to dedication and practice time.
Dodge arrows
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
May 23 2011 02:01 GMT
#460
On May 23 2011 10:58 quiet noise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 10:56 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:54 pieman819 wrote:
On May 23 2011 10:53 zyzq wrote:
We need a showmatch between Painuser and Grubby

winner takes on Qxc


and loser faces the winner of CatZ vs. Artosis


shouldnt the loser play the loser, to name the ultimate baddie


wait yeah that's totally what i meant haha. good catch
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