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chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
December 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#6441
at MVP is still in it..
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
December 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#6442
On December 10 2011 14:01 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 13:58 msjakofsky wrote:
On December 10 2011 13:52 Seeker wrote:
On December 10 2011 13:51 msjakofsky wrote:
On December 10 2011 13:49 Seeker wrote:
On December 10 2011 13:47 msjakofsky wrote:
On December 10 2011 13:46 jojo311 wrote:
On December 10 2011 13:45 darkness wrote:
No respect for MVP from now. He used to say 1/1/1 was wrong, imba, whatever...
If it's just for money/winning, then don't make stupid statements you're going to contradict soon.


When did he say 1/1/1 was wrong and imba? :O?
I never heard of it.


he said on twitter that 1/1/1 should be forbidden vs protoss a few months ago. then he started to do it in a regular fashion


He's representing his country. Imagine how ashamed he would feel walking out at RO8 against a guy who's not even Korean. (that is NOT a jab at foreigners. Merely stating this from South Korean audience' opinions. In Korea, it is highly dishonorable to be the favored one and then to walk out getting destroyed from someone that was the underdog.)

So....... cut him some slack please



i wasn't implying anything, just telling how it happened.


I wasn't saying you were implying anything. Just trying to show TL in case they didn't know, about Korea and the heavy dislike you can receive from one screw up


well 1-1-1 is still a delicate matter imo in the sense that it still doesn't have a true hard counter, unlike every other build. so i can see why people don't like/hate on players etc when they use it. even mvp. a win is a win, but he (and every other terran) has to deal with the response if they use it. people don't generally like unfair stuff in sports. (1-1-1 imo is unfair from certain aspect- it can be dealt with but it doesn't have a go-to counter build like every single other build)


Not all builds need to have a hard counter.....

if all builds had a hard counter it would became a game of BO wins >_>

TvP is fine, let T players adapt again to the new patches and metagame. Its not been even a month...


of course we are counting in other aspects of play too- scouting, micro, etc. literally every single other build has a go-to build that offers a good success rate for the defender, if he scouts the attacker's build. 1-1-1 doesn't. that's my problem with it. MC invented a weird build vs 1-1-1 with one base stargate into gateway play into dt shrine with ridiculously tight timings, that's the closest one to a counter build (and he failed with it numerous times). p knows what comes from the start, and p still fails to defend half the time. tell me what other timing u can lose to if you know it's coming for 5 minutes.

anyways, don't wanna whine, i don't find it inbalanced it's just ridiculously frustrating.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
December 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#6443
omg wtf MKP, T_T

now gotta root for the king i guess. GO MVP
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37026 Posts
December 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#6444
On December 10 2011 14:12 mordk wrote:
Well. MKP was playing like crap all tournament long.

Sad to see KR fail so hard


With only 3 representatives...... it's hard for them to win it all. KR needed like 6 or 7 ppl representing
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Rivon
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia29 Posts
December 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#6445
On December 10 2011 14:12 IMoperator wrote:
was kas vs. marineking streamed?

No, which is why I'm giving you the result here.
Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
December 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#6446
On December 10 2011 14:12 Rivon wrote:
CONFIRMED: Kas > MKP 2-0


Sad to see MKP just lose because of the matchup.
No relation to Monsieur J.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#6447
On December 10 2011 14:12 hmsrenown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 14:09 chatuka wrote:
it's that woman is going ape. I mean sky could be just as great of a guy as lyn.. it's just because she wraps herself in that flag.
so she's biased as hell.As well she is a professional that is paid money to be serious about casting a tournament. Highschool popularity contests are so immature in a global competition. I don't see Artosis and Day 9 going bat s333 over Idra and Huk.


It's great lyn is doing well, but i would also be happy for sky since he worked so hard to get where he is today. hopefully the woman will get a lesson from here superiors about profesionalism.

That's impossible. Biased commentators has long plagued WCG. It's exactly how it should be, just like Canadian broadcast of winter Olympics would be biased towards Team Canada. Maybe not to the extent of that female broadcaster, but very understandable, and frankly, I'm simply desensitized.

People are being really retarded. THEY'RE BROADCASTING FOR KOREA ONLY, WHO CARES???
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#6448
So it's either Polt or a foreigner in the Blizz Cup.

MVP, do work.
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Ognam
Profile Joined October 2011
United States798 Posts
December 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#6449
Biased commentators make for entertaining commentators.
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
December 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#6450
On December 10 2011 14:09 chatuka wrote:
it's that woman is going ape. I mean sky could be just as great of a guy as lyn.. it's just because she wraps herself in that flag.
so she's biased as hell.As well she is a professional that is paid money to be serious about casting a tournament. Highschool popularity contests are so immature in a global competition. I don't see Artosis and Day 9 going bat s333 over Idra and Huk.


It's great lyn is doing well, but i would also be happy for sky since he worked so hard to get where he is today. hopefully the woman will get a lesson from here superiors about profesionalism.


Actually Day9 and Tastosis are GREATLY GREATLY biased toward foreigners whenever they cast foreigner vs Korean games, always picking at moments to say that the foreigner is ahead or adding in "that was a lot closer than it looked" when the Korean destroys. Not to mention the tidbits at the beginning about how oh so good the foreigner is . . .

I've seen Day9 and *especially Tastosis get very excited over foreigners playing against Koreans just because they're foreigners.
powerade = dragoon blood
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#6451
On December 10 2011 14:09 chatuka wrote:
it's that woman is going ape. I mean sky could be just as great of a guy as lyn.. it's just because she wraps herself in that flag.
so she's biased as hell.As well she is a professional that is paid money to be serious about casting a tournament. Highschool popularity contests are so immature in a global competition. I don't see Artosis and Day 9 going bat s333 over Idra and Huk.


It's great lyn is doing well, but i would also be happy for sky since he worked so hard to get where he is today. hopefully the woman will get a lesson from here superiors about profesionalism.

Hey, watch your attitude. Korea is the host for WCG this year, the commentators are happy that their country win, thats absolutely normal and Korean commentators only meant for the Korean spectators. They also have 2 English commentators for the rest of the world.
Congrat Lyn! I really though Sky is going to win. Also mad respect for Sky, hes so manner even after the lost and he didn't even try to tower rush every game.
Terran
nkulu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States242 Posts
December 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#6452
nothing wrong with biased commentators if you're commenting for your local/national team
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
December 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#6453
Ugh... looking like Xigua is gonna make the blizz cup.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
December 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#6454
MKP,, he is so inconsistent. i don't see him being code s
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
December 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#6455
On December 10 2011 14:12 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 14:07 Azarkon wrote:
On December 10 2011 14:06 ugapa wrote:
same reaction would have happened if the chinese won right?


No fucking way

But the kind of national passion they demonstrate is why Koreans do so well in eSports. People elsewhere just don't get it.


Chinese fans are clearly more enthusiastic about WCG than Koreans. If Sky wins it in China, the place will go nuts.


He was talking about the casters. Here on TL, there is a tendency to hold casters to a certain standard of neutrality. I'm just pointing out that this standard isn't respected elsewhere.

Obviously fans are different. Fans will cheer for who they cheer for.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#6456
On December 10 2011 14:09 chatuka wrote:
it's that woman is going ape. I mean sky could be just as great of a guy as lyn.. it's just because she wraps herself in that flag.
so she's biased as hell.As well she is a professional that is paid money to be serious about casting a tournament. Highschool popularity contests are so immature in a global competition. I don't see Artosis and Day 9 going bat s333 over Idra and Huk.


It's great lyn is doing well, but i would also be happy for sky since he worked so hard to get where he is today. hopefully the woman will get a lesson from here superiors about profesionalism.

watch English stream if you want. This stream is label "Korean Stream" for a reason. It's okay to show your patriotism, your bias in front of your countrymen and in KOREAN.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
December 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#6457
On December 10 2011 14:13 Lord_J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 14:12 Rivon wrote:
CONFIRMED: Kas > MKP 2-0


Sad to see MKP just lose because of the matchup.


Hahahaha, don't know if this was serious or sarcastic but I found it hilarious
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
December 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#6458
On December 10 2011 14:10 m0ck wrote:
I watched some WC3 like 3-4 years ago, and it was basically impossible for UD to win tournaments then. Is it the same still? I think I remember a patch being released since.

The problem always was that Undead never had that big of a player base as the other 3 races had. One could argue if it was because of the struggles the race had against orcs on certain maps, but there's no denying that when a race has less representatives, there's gonna be less top placings.

And the only patch of relevence since 3-4 years ago is blade master's wind walk decrease, which barely changed anything to be honest. I think it was around 07 when the item changes occured as well, which helped orcs severely.
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#6459
On December 10 2011 14:13 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 14:12 mordk wrote:
Well. MKP was playing like crap all tournament long.

Sad to see KR fail so hard


With only 3 representatives...... it's hard for them to win it all. KR needed like 6 or 7 ppl representing

These KR are top level, they are way beyond the competition, and certainly way beyond the people they lost to, maybe excepting Kas. Losing like this is a failure.
Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
December 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#6460
Wow, totally lame.

Ugh, probably not going to watch the rest of WCG. Such lame results, come on Supernova/MKP!
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