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Daz89
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia41 Posts
May 16 2011 03:35 GMT
#1201
Idra assumed a Roach all-in was coming is my bet. Considering he'd just been droning to catch back up after being very aggressive early he wouldn't have been able to hold it.
Mojar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia185 Posts
May 16 2011 03:35 GMT
#1202
Not sure why they believe he shouldn't GG there, it was completely over. Roaches, 2 hatch and drone advantage to Sen. No way Sen was going to lose that.
Aerodynamic27
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada115 Posts
May 16 2011 03:35 GMT
#1203
go idra! IDRA MUST WIIIIN
Jtn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
444 Posts
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1204
On May 16 2011 12:35 Essentia wrote:
even if he is behind, since idra is the best in the world hes the only one who could possibly recover from THAT kind of situation so he should stay. any other newbie should leave but idra shouldnt quit like that.


In case you didn't know, Sen is pretty fucking good too.
CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1205
He was behind, and maybe nine times out of ten Idra loses that if they play it out. But 10% of the time he gets lucky takes the series. It wasn't like he was 99% out of it. EYE OF THE TIGER!
"Even though they don't drink milk, milk comes out of their nose, disturbingly." - Tasteless
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1206
Ironically, I think IdrA had TOO much respect for Sen in that game. He should have at least tried to play it out.
funkyfritter
Profile Joined May 2010
353 Posts
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1207
I feel like the fast gg was justified. Idra can't win from that position unless sen has a seizure or something.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1208
man who cares about the colour changing between players.. I like seeing different colours.. especially white on a zerg.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 03:39:34
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1209
On May 16 2011 12:35 Killerkrack wrote:
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On May 16 2011 12:34 DoomsVille wrote:
Don't know what Gretorp and Incontrol are talking about. He was pretty much dead at that point. No way can he catch up against Sen.

Agreed, Idra has no chance at every catching up to Sen at that point.


Idra was up in drones, laying down an expansion.

For sen, he was beginning to drone up, but didn't immediately do it. Thus he was neither as far ahead as he could have been economically or militarily(didn't commit to counter all in.) He just saw a bunch of zerglings, and was definitely not going to push out for at least a couple minutes, by which time Idra would have had his hatchery up and in a decent, albeit not preferred, position.

Way to early to gg.


On May 16 2011 12:37 1Eris1 wrote:
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On May 16 2011 12:35 AlBundy wrote:
On May 16 2011 12:34 1Eris1 wrote:
Why are you guys so suprised by the gg? sen pushes with the roaches and wins. the baneling play is designed to kill him or do a ton of damage, and sen handled it well

Nice theorycrafting there, Mister Dustin Browder.



Don't be an idiot. You don't understand ZvZ at all. 2 bases to 1 with a significant roach count on that map is impossible to beat at that point because of chokes and the production rate. Even if that wasn't the case, sen could just drone twice as fast and outpass him in a macro game


Considering you have a terran icon, I hope you are actually zerg and don't just *watch* zvz.

Roaches aren't everything until they get that critical mass. As long as speedlings can get a surround, they are an adequete response to roaches. 25 zerglings can kill 5 roaches, for instance. Furthormore Sen was not hardcore droning, Idra did not know if he was, and Idra was also getting an expansion.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1210
Boxer has a lot to learn from Idra as far as gg timings.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1211
If Sen wins this, there'll be a triple tie between them and BoxeR for first place
Benjilol
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia244 Posts
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1212
On May 16 2011 12:35 Zebb wrote:
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On May 16 2011 12:34 DoomsVille wrote:
Don't know what Gretorp and Incontrol are talking about. He was pretty much dead at that point. No way can he catch up against Sen.


He had more drones than Sen. Sen probably could have killed him with a counterattack, but at least make him do it.


Sen had a tech, unit and expansion advantage. Idra would need to get roach tech, another Hatch and some units before he could drone, Sen was about to go into heavy Drone mode or heavy allin mode, either is a good choice.
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DJams
Profile Joined May 2011
United States447 Posts
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1213
maybe they should start DQing ppl who picks the wrong color.
usa#1
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1214
Was Idra probably going to end up losing that game? Yes. But he gg'ed way too early. He always just assumes perfect play from his opponent, and it infuriates me. There's no telling how many games he's lost that he could've came back and won because he just assumes a disadvantage = loss. -_-
fruchtzergeis
Profile Joined April 2011
64 Posts
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1215
On May 16 2011 12:35 Essentia wrote:
even if he is behind, since idra is the best in the world hes the only one who could possibly recover from THAT kind of situation so he should stay. any other newbie should leave but idra shouldnt quit like that.


no one can recover from that, even if sen does a huge blunder which is very unlikely with roaches
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1216
I love mirror matchups where expansions dont mean instant death <3
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Jman5
Profile Joined September 2010
United States745 Posts
May 16 2011 03:36 GMT
#1217
Going purple as zerg? Dick move Sen!
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 16 2011 03:37 GMT
#1218
On May 16 2011 12:35 AlBundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:34 1Eris1 wrote:
Why are you guys so suprised by the gg? sen pushes with the roaches and wins. the baneling play is designed to kill him or do a ton of damage, and sen handled it well

Nice theorycrafting there, Mister Dustin Browder.



Don't be an idiot. You don't understand ZvZ at all. 2 bases to 1 with a significant roach count on that map is impossible to beat at that point because of chokes and the production rate. Even if that wasn't the case, sen could just drone twice as fast and outpass him in a macro game
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Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
May 16 2011 03:37 GMT
#1219
I fully support Idra's GG timings. Much prefer that than players who play on 5-10 minutes too long.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 16 2011 03:37 GMT
#1220
ads won't load, can't watch....got up to Idra/sen game 2....damn
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